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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
 | | 10/12/2006 7:10 PM |
| | The All-Seeing Mage's blade ability says "Janus Warpstrike x2". It was ruled, today, in a small tournament, that that meant you could assign up to two blades to make up to two warpstrikes. My opponent was running the mages, so that was fine by me, but I wondered if, by the wording of the blade ability, the mage should be allowed to make two warpstrikes with just one blade. If it was supposed to be as ruled by the judge, why isn't the ability written like other multi-blade abilities on the top of the miniature's base? If it really is supposed to be two warpstrikes with one blade, is there any reason why you couldn't assign the second warpstrike to the same target as the target of the first? | |
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DMG
Sneak
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Dallas
| | 10/12/2006 7:33 PM |
| Cuz its not a Multiblade ability.
Its two separate Single Blade abilities.
Compare it to a Poltergeist and you'll see your answer. If you roll two blades with a 'Geist - you can assign one for scare and then assign one for expel. Same with Mage - one blade J Warpstrike, second blade J Warpstrike again.
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Faragdar the Wise
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 10/12/2006 8:12 PM |
| | So, you think that " Janus Warpstrike x2" is essentially the same as if they had written it " Janus Warpstrike, Janus Warpstrike"? I guess no matter how you slice it, the way it's written is odd, to me. Why have two separate identical single blade abilities? Is there a subtle difference I'm missing between that and a single multi-blade ability that can have two blades assigned to it? | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 10/12/2006 10:44 PM |
| The answer is on the bottom of the figure. There are two separate single blade abilities, each of which allows a Janus Warpstrike.
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XAos
Underboss
2376 Posts
London
| | 10/13/2006 1:57 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 10/12/2006 10:44 PM
The answer is on the bottom of the figure. There are two separate single blade abilities, each of which allows a Janus Warpstrike.
What Jeff said. If in doubt about an ability, start by reading whats on the underside of the figure.
In the case of the All Seeing Mage, the underside doesn't say "Janus Warpstrike x2". It lists 2 seperate Janus Warpstrike abilities. (each single-blade)
I think WotC were trying to save space by abriviating what was written on the top of the figure & ended up being confusing about what they intended.
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Dallas
| | 10/13/2006 6:17 AM |
| Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 10/12/2006 8:12 PM
Is there a subtle difference I'm missing between that and a single multi-blade ability that can have two blades assigned to it?
Big big difference - if you roll three blades the Mage cannot use the third - if he was multiblade then he could use a third... and four and fifth and so on. | | | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3453 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 10/13/2006 6:40 AM |
| | Ah, I had thought that there were different multiblade symbols that specified how many blades you could assign to it (i.e. double blade, triple blade, etc.). Now I read the rules more carefully, I see there's no limit on a multiblade. Makes that Hawk-eyed Instigator better than I thought (and the Scarab Warcharm, for that matter). Thanks for clearing that up. I got more questions answered than I realized I needed answers to. | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 10/13/2006 10:47 AM |
| I know when i first looked at it, I thought it made 2 warpstrikes for one blade. But the difference is in the X. I compared the print to the Knight of Strife and Joy, which has Skirmish 2. that was when it clicked for me, to look at the bottom as well, and the difference between 2 and x2.
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