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mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 08/21/2006 5:53 PM |
| Well, maybe I am not looking in the right places with the new forum organization, but this was posted on the WotC Star Wars Minis forums by WizO_Tao, but effects multiple lines: I was wondering when this would hit...
Alright ladies and gents, here's the deal. Wizards will be forced to raise the cost of all miniatures products effective 22 September, 2006. The prices will be as follows:
Booster Packs: $14.99 Huge Packs: $21.99
This is the direct result of global economic pressure and production cost increases (remember, plastic is an oil based substance...), though the overall costs are still competative with similar products. I doubt that anyone is really happy about the announcement (I have to buy my minis just like everyone else), but its a sad fact that everything is getting more expensive these days. Unfortunately, even the minis market is affected. | | | |
| Thoth, Gatherer of Knowledge MerricB Underboss
 2353 Posts



 Australia
 | | 08/21/2006 6:16 PM |
| Ow. Not really surprising, but very annoying. Cheers! | | Merric Blackman
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| mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 08/21/2006 6:45 PM |
| [QUOTE]MerricB wrote
Ow. Not really surprising, but very annoying.[/QUOTE]The surprising part to me was the short fuse date- One month notice? After a great many Bounty Hunter cases have been presold? | | | |
| bigbadjon Sergeant
 546 Posts




 | | 08/21/2006 6:52 PM |
| | Yep, I've got 4 cases of BH on preorder. However, a two dollar price increase is'nt too awful bad. Since nobody has actually paid for the preorders yet I imagine we will get an email saying that we'll have to pay more. | | Evil triumphs when good men fail their morale saves. | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
 10987 Posts



 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 08/21/2006 9:31 PM |
| Two dollars more on the Huge packs isn't all that bad.... isn't this increase a little early? I though the pack prices were not going up till Unhallowed? | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
| Luisjoey Underboss
 1704 Posts



 Caracas Venezuela
 | | 08/21/2006 11:59 PM |
| Oh that´s pretty awful because countries like the mine need to import this products, and well there is an importation fare that retailer must apply, plus of many of my country international barrier for imported products.  | | Knight of the Quori Champion of King Kaius III of Karrnath
Purple Knight of Venezuela  Venezuelan Site For D&D minis Calabozo Criollo Venezuela Venezuelan Site for SW minis VeneMinis.com | |
| Sirohk Commander
 3917 Posts



 USA
 | | 08/22/2006 3:18 AM |
| It stinks. It smells of something... It's not unexpected as we were discussing this about 2 months ago regarding DDM packs. Very sad, very sad. 
| | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 08/22/2006 7:08 AM |
| I don't think there is such a big conspiracy as you said other than just keeping a profit margin in the cost of rising prices.
If it helps matters, I'm surprised that there wasn't a greater increase for SWM and AAM. Realize that each box makes less of a profit than DDM because they have to pay for licensing as well as everything else, unlike DDM which they hold all the intellectual property outright.
Man, topics like this always start getting me in a "I remember a time when bread was a nickle!" mode.
| | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Wayne Underboss
 1371 Posts




 | | 08/22/2006 7:17 AM |
| [QUOTE]Cthulhufnord wrote Two dollars more on the Huge packs isn't all that bad.... isn't this increase a little early?[/QUOTE]Don't be surprised if, by the next time they do a set with Huges, the price isn't higher again. | | Jeff "Wayne Laredo" Wilder | Email | Have/Want List | Trade Policies | Are You an Ethical Trader?
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|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10430 Posts


 United States
 | | 08/22/2006 7:20 AM |
| It had to happen sooner or later. I wonder how this will affect: 1) singles prices from eBay sellers 2) average and median prices on madda's list (though I'd expect it will take a couple months to filter through) For example, if the Cleric of Order sells for $3.50 today (random guess), then, with a 16% increase in booster prices, will the Cleric of Order eventually also take that hit and get valued at $4.06? And, how long will it take for the price increase in boosters to affect price increases in both singles and out-of-print pieces? Let's say the Pit Fiend becomes a highly-sought-after piece (like the Balor has been). If the Balor's madda-price was $20 (total guess), will the Pit Fiend's be similar? And, will that similarity reflect the increase (i.e. $23.20)? Will that increase pull up the Balor's price too, or is it a recent enough addition to the collections that it's equilibrium price will avoid the increase? Tough to foresee. Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
| PatEllis15 Commander
 4463 Posts




 | | 08/22/2006 7:50 AM |
| [QUOTE]gss_000 wrote I don't think there is such a big conspiracy as you said other than just keeping a profit margin in the cost of rising prices.
If it helps matters, I'm surprised that there wasn't a greater increase for SWM and AAM. Realize that each box makes less of a profit than DDM because they have to pay for licensing as well as everything else, unlike DDM which they hold all the intellectual property outright.
Man, topics like this always start getting me in a "I remember a time when bread was a nickle!" mode. [/QUOTE] Point of fact, Hasbro owns Axis and Allies, so there is no licensing fee... That said, AAM were already priced at $14.99 (though you got 9 miniatures, and the tanks were assembles with movable pices via screws...). Bounty Hunters had better be a WOW set through and through. I'm already hearing from some younger buyers (i.e. High School and College kids) that a 2nd Huge set after just 1 normal set was going to be difficult for them to manage. Still, I can't say I'm surprised. However, If Harbinger had premiered at $14.99, I'm not sure I'd have gotten hooked the way I did when they were $9.99.... Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 08/22/2006 1:14 PM |
| Thanks for the fact check. In my mind I was thinking of Risk, being owned by Parker Borthers, but even that is a subsidiary of Hasbro so I'm wrong on both counts.
And I agree, starting the pricing at $10 was masterful.
| | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
Champion of Radiant Sevant | |
| cbradshaw007 Skirmisher
 7 Posts




 | | 08/23/2006 6:11 AM |
| | Another problem they face with the SWM line is that Lucas is forcing a higher level of detail of each mini. Don't get me wrong, this means we have better looking minis but it also raises the cost to WOTC. The reason I heard the Rancor was dropped is due to the paint steps involved and the cost. WOTC would have lost money on the pack. Another case in point was the ATAT. Rumor has it that they barely broke even. If they were to create any more big figures like that, expect a larger price tag. The Red Dragon due out next month was scaled back from its original look. Again, the price of the detail is amazing. I think our little factory workers are getting greedy. | | Chris Bradshaw | |
| PatEllis15 Commander
 4463 Posts




 | | 08/23/2006 8:09 AM |
| FYI, I'm afraid the price increase may effect DDM sooner than we thought. I'm not surprised by the AT_AT to be honest. It still is on shelves at it's price point, but they haven't announced the AT-TE. That said, they actually ADDED to teh CRD. The original had standard wings, the production figure includes clear plastic wings, so I'm not so sure about that part. Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
| warty_nosed_goblin Underboss
 1384 Posts




 | | 08/23/2006 9:15 AM |
| | I'm not suprised that the price is going up, but I'm also not really bothered that much. Sure it's an extra $2 per pack, but the miniature quality has been going up drastically in my opinion, and with the addition of clear plastic this is more true then ever. The game itself also seems to have better costing in more recent sets, making it more likely that the pieces I pull will be useable. If I was paying $15 per pack for pieces of Harbinger quality, then it would be a totally different matter... | | Call me: W.N. Gobo! originally posted by grim: While he is clearly insane, he does have a point. | |
| Sean-Khan Commander
 2720 Posts




 | | 08/30/2006 7:24 AM |
| This encourages me to stop collecting. Surely I'll keep wanting to trade for few new ones, but I've got some amount of old figs for trade and have few extra terrains so that doesn't mean I'll have to buy any more.
I may buy a random booster if I feel like that, and I've preordered 1/2 case of Bounty Hunters. If StarShip game and AAM Naval don't impress me, the only thing I may be buying soon is single/scenario packs.
I'm at least 90% happy about my DDM, SWM and AAM collections; I can play each game with nice variety and lots of things for RPG. There's only one thing I've really been missing, and I've found a shortcut for that as WotC has'n provided it 
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| bigbadjon Sergeant
 546 Posts




 | | 09/03/2006 8:29 AM |
| | I got my price increase notice from Game Outfitters. It was less than I expected, at $38 for 4 cases of Bounty Hunters. If you buy in bulk like that though the price increase is a lot less noticeable. | | Evil triumphs when good men fail their morale saves. | |
|  JohnnyFive Warrior
 207 Posts




 | | 09/07/2006 7:54 AM |
| | It really stinks, since I remember the days when I was a poor college student and was still able to afford the occasional booster of Archfiends when I frequented my FLGS. Now, I'm a poor college graduate, and I doubt I'd still be able to afford my habit if it weren't for the frequent flyer discounts my FLGS gives me on my DDM cases... | | Champion of the Elf Duskblade | |
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