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10/12/2006 1:50 PM  
Dang but I'm gonna be broke come the end of this month start of November.  In one weekend there are a bunch of prerelease/release/special events.

October 27th - release Tournament for Dreamblade ($50)
October 28th prerelease for Blood War ($40 - lots of extra prize support) or another DReamblade release tournament
October 29th Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($25) or Star Wars
October 31st Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($30) -different store

Thankfully I don't play Magic as well.
 While $145 for lots of gaming is bad enough I also have a son who plays as well. (Okay he plays better than I do!)

Anyone else have one of these type weekends coming up?

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10/12/2006 2:31 PM  
I'm more or less right there with you playing the same Dreamblade tournament on the 27th and the Bloodwar prerelease on the 28th at my local game store.

I'm not doing the Horrorclix but right after its 2 cases of Bloodwar and a half case of the new Dreamblade set..... the wallet will be screaming for mercy by then.

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10/12/2006 3:49 PM  
Not to mention the launch of PS3 for those who are getting it.

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10/12/2006 7:15 PM  
My wallet is still recovering from $450 in textbooks, so no Blood War cases for me, just one of War of the Dragon Queen for now. Hopefully I'll come up with the money for BW after Christmas though...

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10/13/2006 3:55 AM  
Posted By forkedmoon on 10/12/2006 1:50 PM
Dang but I'm gonna be broke come the end of this month start of November.  In one weekend there are a bunch of prerelease/release/special events.

October 27th - release Tournament for Dreamblade ($50)
October 28th prerelease for Blood War ($40 - lots of extra prize support) or another DReamblade release tournament
October 29th Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($25) or Star Wars
October 31st Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($30) -different store

Thankfully I don't play Magic as well.
 While $145 for lots of gaming is bad enough I also have a son who plays as well. (Okay he plays better than I do!)

Anyone else have one of these type weekends coming up?


I'm more impressed that you find the time to play so many games.

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10/13/2006 5:36 AM  

Im not done collecting Star Wars Champions of the Force...

Meanwhile October sees the release of Bounty Hunters and November is Bloodwars and the Star Wars starships game.

Its almost like WotC is forcing mini lovers to pick only one game.

And no way will I buy a $600 PS3 when its released. Thats way to much money. ill have to wait to see if the price goes down in a year....Untill then theres the new Nintendo Wii....i want that thing


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10/13/2006 7:13 AM  
im in a similiar situation
star wars bounty hunters
blood war
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video gmaes including marvel alliance,justice league, star wars unleashed and a few others

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10/13/2006 7:16 AM  
I wonder when the saturation point will be hit. I mean, Wizards can only have so many different lines of products and maintain good sales (this isn't to imply that the current number of lines is the optimum number, there might yet be room to grow for all I know).

But, if people are having trouble buying the quantity they want of product X, because they're also buying Y and Z, then maybe we're close to that limit.

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10/13/2006 8:08 AM  
Posted By forkedmoon on 10/12/2006 1:50 PM
Dang but I'm gonna be broke come the end of this month start of November.  In one weekend there are a bunch of prerelease/release/special events.

October 27th - release Tournament for Dreamblade ($50)
October 28th prerelease for Blood War ($40 - lots of extra prize support) or another DReamblade release tournament
October 29th Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($25) or Star Wars
October 31st Horrorclix special costumed event sealed ($30) -different store

Thankfully I don't play Magic as well.
 While $145 for lots of gaming is bad enough I also have a son who plays as well. (Okay he plays better than I do!)

Anyone else have one of these type weekends coming up?

So would you be happier if you lived in Europe, where the Blood war pre-release has been delayed a month ???

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10/13/2006 10:21 AM  
And let's not forget that big convention coming up, GenCon Socal.

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10/13/2006 11:16 AM  
I only collect DDM and wish the sets were closer ...could use an extra set a year.. but then again I'm a DM and have the set done in about 3 weeks after release.

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10/13/2006 12:39 PM  
This is way I only allow my son and I to have 1 CMG.
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1 maybe 2 prereleases for BW + 2 cases.
Too bad I wont beable to finish off my set from Auggust (unless he finds a new supplier.

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10/13/2006 1:03 PM  
I hear you.... right now SWM is pretty much my only game.  The starships game I'm not planning on getting into so that will be a nice break between the sets.  My DDM consumption has dropped pretty sharply due to Horrorclix, which I'm not sure I even like playing anymore.

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10/13/2006 2:15 PM  
All those things not to mention Christmas is just around the corner as well.....

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10/16/2006 9:04 AM  
Not an issue for me. October 28th prerelease for Blood War. The rest of it I don't care about.

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10/16/2006 9:35 AM  

It's definatley a busy fall...  Axis and Allies Reserves comes out in November, don't forget Limited Qualifiers for the DDM Limited Championship, and then of course Star Wars Galactic Conquest...

 

I'm definatley being run dry...

 

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10/17/2006 9:51 PM  
Its almost like WotC is forcing mini lovers to pick only one game.

Basically, that is the case, and it's because the majority of the players of these games only play one game. Those players want releases a lot closer together than the rare people who play them all.

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10/18/2006 1:49 AM  
Posted By MerricB on 10/17/2006 9:51 PM
Its almost like WotC is forcing mini lovers to pick only one game.

Basically, that is the case, and it's because the majority of the players of these games only play one game. Those players want releases a lot closer together than the rare people who play them all.

Cheers!



Well, I agree when it comes to Dreamblade and AAM. SWM is more of a niche product also. But DDM is sort of a common denominator for many mini players, and I believe that the numerous cross-trading offers in the depths of these boards are just the top of the iceberg. And strangely I believe that Magic : the Gathering has a role to play in this, essentially as a competitor of sorts to Dreamblade.

At this stage, I believe the collectible games market has reached maturity - only really innovative products can take hold, and then again only at the expense of other products. 

SWM will probably subsist for a few more sets, but will in the end disappear as no new "players" come aboard (quotes because of the larger crowd not playing but just collecting the thing). It's already going the way of the dinosaurs with sparse, irregular new releases. And the latest set is not going to help, though full of desirable pieces, the price tag is a bit harsh to get a RARE huge bird or flea (?!) no one ever saw anywhere. Just my opinion, but I think I'm not far from the truth. The Starship battles look promising, but a collectible one-shot game is a strange thing if I ever saw one...

DDM will probably take a back seat, keeping constant sales due to the link to RPG. Skirmish is probably bound to slowly die out, at least in sanctioned organised play form.  I believe the product will become the MtG of miniature games, "probably not the best, but a classic you can always come back to". Which is a good thing for the DDM brand.

Dreamblade is a gambit of sorts. Interesting gameplay, striking look of the minis (see, I wrote "striking", not "beautiful" or "ugly"... what a slimy way to give an opinion). But in essence, the organised play could consume DDM's OP program and the target market is, I think, too close to MtG players for its own good. I hope this game will stay, because it is really good, but I fear it will not be here for long, among other things because of the price. I'm ready to buy DDM boosters because I play RPG, but an even more expensive pack of minis that are probably useless in terms of gameplay and have no immediate alternate use... that I think I'll pass on after a while. My take on it is I'll try and complete the first set (pulled 3 scarab warcharms in 15 packs, so I have what it takes to get my needs ;-), but I'll take a back seat on the first expansion release and watch were the game's headed.

Finally, AAM, I won't talk about it as I don't know anything about it, frankly. I know my FLGS carries it, but their stock look suspiciously long-lived. I think this has no long-term potential without strong changes in the context (other parts of history, like WW I, Napoleon's wars, US Civil War...).

At any rate, I strongly believe the future of all these games are intertwined because there is a LOT of people playing or collecting at least two of those, even if they're not hardcore collectors or tournament players. Which, to me, means that there's indeed too much on the shelves right now, unless I underestimate the money people are willing to spend on such expensive games...

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10/19/2006 10:45 PM  
Bah! You had to remind me of the PS3! grr... I need to crack into savings. I have 3 on preorder. Hoping to sell 2 on ebay for buku bucks. That way I can buy more blood war. The greatest set I've seen them dish out. That and I can buy a new computer

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10/31/2006 10:41 PM  
That's part of the reason I only focus on D&D - both the RPG and the skirmish game. I don't want to be forced to make tough gaming choices like this.

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11/01/2006 6:37 AM  
Wow. I spent a lot of money to get my butt kicked.

Friday Dreamblade: $50 to go 1-2 (7 out of 8 ) - the kid went 2-1 (2 out of 8 )
Saturday DDM $40 (1-0 dropped to takeover as judge) - the kid went 3-2 (7 out of 21)
Sunday SWM free 3-0 (1 out of 4) - the kid stayed home
Halloween Horrorclix $30 to go 0-3 (6 of 6) - the kid went 2-1 (3 out of 6)

I guess I need to stick with free events?







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11/01/2006 12:11 PM  
Posted By Thenameless on 10/31/2006 10:41 PM
That's part of the reason I only focus on D&D - both the RPG and the skirmish game. I don't want to be forced to make tough gaming choices like this.


I second that! It becomes too complicated and expensive when one plays more than one of these WoTC games. The prices of booster packs going up doesn't help ether. Unless your job is really bringing in the cold hard cash, I wouldn't suggest going all out w/ these games. Well anyway that's my opionion...

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11/01/2006 8:52 PM  
A store owner I know actually told a couple of customers, who he knew did not have the best jobs, to not buy so much. He was afraid they weren't going to eat or pay rent with all they were buying.

Well, it is the beginning of the holiday season, so Im not surprised so much is coming out.

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11/01/2006 9:19 PM  
This is a problem that is as old as the hobbies themselves, I am sure.

I lived through this exact thing back in the day. Btw: being a completist doesn't help either.

Seriously though, it is best to just pick 2 maybe 3, if your income can handle it, hobbies and stick with them. I would suggest letting the others go, and as far as competitions go... Only go to the ones which host the game you enjoy most/have invested in most.

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11/02/2006 12:19 AM  
Posted By Darkfather on 11/01/2006 9:19 PM
being a completist doesn't help either.

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11/02/2006 4:06 AM  
Posted By realmaster on 11/02/2006 12:19 AM
Posted By Darkfather on 11/01/2006 9:19 PM
being a completist doesn't help either.

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11/02/2006 7:05 AM  
Card carrying member for sure of the completists club.

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11/02/2006 7:48 AM  
I'm a completist

Delimma:

Blood War Pre-Release = 70 Bucks
World of Warcraft Release = 25 Bucks
Blood Wars Cases = 500+ Bucks
Eve CCG Release = 180 Bucks
Cell Phone Bill 80
Insurance 70
School Loan 80
Credit Card 100

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11/02/2006 1:58 PM  
I'm surprised you didn't add tokkens to that list.

Yeah. Nov/Dec is a bad time, just as bad as Aug with all the great cons around (GenCon, DragonCon, etc)

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11/03/2006 12:25 AM  
Posted By dj-chuckles on 10/19/2006 10:45 PM
Bah! You had to remind me of the PS3! grr... I need to crack into savings. I have 3 on preorder. Hoping to sell 2 on ebay for buku bucks. That way I can buy more blood war. The greatest set I've seen them dish out. That and I can buy a new computer
This is why I'm waiting to pick up a ps3 until after the intial ebay scalping tapers off (following the Xbox 360's trending, that should happen sometime around February). Fortunately, I've got Final Fantasy 12 to keep me entertained ad infinitum

I agree that there are too many products rolling out simultaneously. ps3, Wii, Final Fantasy 12 (and 13 with the ps3 launch, which has got to go some length to top 12...), Blood War, a ton of D&D supplements, then factor in Christmas right around the corner and tuition due at the end of January.....too much to spend money on, not nearly enough money to spend

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