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Star
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978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 11/20/2006 9:46 AM |
| | I know that Bloodwar mini's are being delayed so that WOTC can comply with the new EU standards of exactly how cancerous their mini's are allowed to be. This is the first I've heard of a recall though. | |
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Vrecknidj
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 11/20/2006 10:08 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 11/20/2006 10:04 AM This is the first I've heard of this. Maybe Drizzt's price will increase even more.  Dave
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ckissee
Underboss
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bigbadjon
Sergeant
546 Posts
| | 11/20/2006 1:00 PM |
| Yeah right, so are they going to ban everything that has PVC or acrylic in it? The minis are made out of the same stuff as a million other plastic products, it just does not make sense.
Oh well, no mention of it here in the States. | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
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orcdoubleax
Sergeant
694 Posts
| | 11/21/2006 3:04 AM |
| This is not a new issue. well let me clearfiy that it is a new issue with PVC, but it is not the first product to be banned in Europe, but still avaliable in North America.
I would not worry about North America being effected. There have been chemicals banned in Europe for years that are still used in a ton North American products. Many of them far worst then PVC.
On the downside our Cancer rates are much higher then thiers.
For example a Canadian Male has a 44% chance that he will have Cancer in his lifetime. | |
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 11/21/2006 9:05 AM |
| | Yet North America has more bans on smoking. Go figure. | |
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orcdoubleax
Sergeant
694 Posts
| | 11/21/2006 10:25 AM |
| | As bad as smoking is it is sometimes used as a scapegoat. Governments love to pass another smoking law to look like they are doing something, but ignore hundreds of other issues. | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 11/27/2006 5:50 AM |
| Posted By orcdoubleax on 11/21/2006 10:25 AM
As bad as smoking is it is sometimes used as a scapegoat. Governments love to pass another smoking law to look like they are doing something, but ignore hundreds of other issues.
Eeeep! I'm sorta sorry for this sociopoliticoofftopicocommento. Helmets, seat belts, etc..
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Prince o the Raven Banner
Sergeant
606 Posts
| | 11/27/2006 3:30 PM |
| These things are actually bad for my health?
Delete this thread immediately, if my girlfriend sees this I will NEVER hear the end of it. | |
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| | 11/27/2006 11:07 PM |
| Posted By Prince o the Raven Banner on 11/27/2006 3:30 PM
These things are actually bad for my health?
Delete this thread immediately, if my girlfriend sees this I will NEVER hear the end of it.
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froffenhoffer
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 12/10/2006 11:34 AM |
| | Just as a thing, there were blood war boosters recalled from europe, but I think(hope) everything is running smoothly now back here, at least it is from what i have seen in my LGS's. | |
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XAos
Underboss
2389 Posts
London
| | 12/15/2006 8:09 AM |
| Posted By froffenhoffer on 12/10/2006 11:34 AM
Just as a thing, there were blood war boosters recalled from europe, but I think(hope) everything is running smoothly now back here, at least it is from what i have seen in my LGS's.
Froffenhoffer, the boosters were only delayed in the UK. It's legal to continue selling existing stocks.
The law is somewhat more stringent in other EU countries. Older expansions were withdrawn/destroyed. So while the UK retail trade has basically recovered. I suspect the rest of the EU will never get restocks of the earliar expansions. | |
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froffenhoffer
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 12/15/2006 9:54 AM |
| | Poor souls.. poor souls. | |
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Engineer
Sneak
57 Posts
| | 12/15/2006 11:18 AM |
| Posted By XAos on 12/15/2006 8:09 AM
Froffenhoffer, the boosters were only delayed in the UK. It's legal to continue selling existing stocks.
The law is somewhat more stringent in other EU countries. Older expansions were withdrawn/destroyed. So while the UK retail trade has basically recovered. I suspect the rest of the EU will never get restocks of the earliar expansions.
Does this mean my 2 cases of Underdark and 8 cases of WotDQ are illegal contraband in the EU?Â
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 12/15/2006 1:32 PM |
| Posted By Engineer on 12/15/2006 11:18 AM
Does this mean my 2 cases of Underdark and 8 cases of WotDQ are illegal contraband in the EU?Â
Does my selling price increase? If it ever gets to the point where DDM are being sold on the black market I'm cashing out.
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Thousandsofminis
Warrior
257 Posts
| | 12/29/2006 8:33 AM |
| They don't seem to be stopping any shipments being sent in of singles however. As I haven't had any problems with shipments getting through to Europe at all. It might explain while my international singles sales have been increasing the way they have though, if EU can't get them in the stores for the older expansions anymore. And please, please don't tell me they actually destroyed boosters or cases...that is just wrong!
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Caustic_Mouse
Sergeant
464 Posts
Tooele, Ut
| | 12/29/2006 11:40 AM |
| As an "Environmental" guy I am way curious about the EU restrictions on PVC. Does it have to do with the production of the plastic product? Are they worried about landfill potential? Or consumption?
Anyone got any info?
I would also love to see WOTC's report and or risk assessment on the minis.
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Caustic_Mouse
Sergeant
464 Posts
Tooele, Ut
| | 12/29/2006 11:42 AM |
| Posted By bigbadjon on 11/20/2006 1:00 PM
Yeah right, so are they going to ban everything that has PVC or acrylic in it? The minis are made out of the same stuff as a million other plastic products, it just does not make sense.
Oh well, no mention of it here in the States.
No offense intended but I'm sure someone said the same thing about asbestos back in the day. | |
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jaidenshea
Skirmisher
11 Posts
St Cloud, MN
| | 03/15/2007 11:29 AM |
| | How toxic could it be? My son has eaten no less than three (that I know of) minis and he is fine. | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7507 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 03/15/2007 2:06 PM |
| Posted By jaidenshea on 03/15/2007 11:29 AM
How toxic could it be? My son has eaten no less than three (that I know of) minis and he is fine.
that's kind of scary...
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Sir Bozak The Damned
Commander
2854 Posts
Québec
| | 03/16/2007 11:45 AM |
| Posted By jaidenshea on 03/15/2007 11:29 AM
How toxic could it be? My son has eaten no less than three (that I know of) minis and he is fine.
Please feed him....
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3490 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 03/16/2007 12:12 PM |
| Let's not forget LabMonkey's cat that ate a Storm Giant. Last I heard, the animal was fine.
Oh, and I'm not sure that a generalized statement about cancer being more common in Noth America is true. A quick look at statistics shows that in 2003, a bit over 1/2 million deaths in the US could be attributed to cancer. In 2004, about 1.7 million deaths in Europe could be attributed to cancer. Since the total European population is about 2.5x that of the US, that puts the European mortality rate from cancer higher than in the US. And yes, lung cancer seems to make it to the top of the list. Maybe if you added up all types of cancer, North America would be higher (I don't know, that would take more research than I'm willing to do), but I'm not so worried about the stuff that doesn't generally kill you. Another factor to consider is age of a population. Is the average age of the population higher in North America or Europe? One would expect cancer rates to naturally be higher in the more aged population.
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4135 Posts
| | 04/02/2007 9:17 AM |
| Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 03/16/2007 12:12 PM
Let's not forget LabMonkey's cat that ate a Storm Giant. Last I heard, the animal was fine.
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Yep. She's still here and still eating everything she can get her paws on. This weekend it was a loaf of bread, some flowers, and some cookies. She also once ate an entire chocolate moose pie (which should be pretty toxic to cats). She usually sticks to human food products, but occasionally she'll venture into other areas like minis, paper or q-tips. Believe it or not, I actually do feed her.
I sold my entire minis collection about 6 months ago. However, the closet where it used to live still smells of plastic - crack today. It's pretty scary that the fumes could linger for so long.Â
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3898 Posts
Adelaide
| | 04/03/2007 8:49 PM |
| Posted By Lab Monkey on 04/02/2007 9:17 AM
I sold my entire minis collection about 6 months ago. However, the closet where it used to live still smells of plastic - crack today. It's pretty scary that the fumes could linger for so long.Â
Egads. I think I hear baby Pelor crying.
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 04/21/2007 6:18 AM |
| Posted By Lab Monkey on 04/02/2007 9:17 AM Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 03/16/2007 12:12 PM
Let's not forget LabMonkey's cat that ate a Storm Giant. Last I heard, the animal was fine.
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Yep. She's still here and still eating everything she can get her paws on. This weekend it was a loaf of bread, some flowers, and some cookies. She also once ate an entire chocolate moose pie (which should be pretty toxic to cats).ÂShe usually sticks to human food products, but occasionally she'll venture into other areas like minis, paper or q-tips. Believe it or not, I actually do feed her.
More toxic to dogs than cats (especially some species - They say that a 200 g tablet of dark chocolate can be enough to kill a bulldog or boxer). But if it was the entire pie, she is lucky (though the only really dangerous is dark chocolate IIRC).
Aspirin, ibuprofen and paracetamol are very dangerous for cats. Grapes are mildly toxic IIRC.
Thankfully my cat doesn't like sugary substances, only melon. Doesn't drink enough though, and may have kidney problems in the future... 
But she NEVER touches my minis 
I sold my entire minis collection about 6 months ago. However, the closet where it used to live still smells of plastic - crack today. It's pretty scary that the fumes could linger for so long.Â
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