Daunte
Sergeant
518 Posts
    
 | | 05/27/2006 9:00 AM |
| Whats a world without places to go and things to see?
The next step i would like to tackle is to actually populate the world. This is going to be a very long process and im sure there are going to be some disagreements on it but i think we can work through it without to much headache.
I dont think the map is going to change much so the first thing we need to do is decide where the major races and civilizations are going to be.
We can use names from the original voting to name major cities and so on.
So at this point take a look at the map and throw out whatever suggestions you have for races/cities/empires/civilzations and so on and where you think they should be at. Below is a another copy of the map with grid squares on it. Please note the grid coordinates of where you would like things to be placed. The map is not numbers but top left to right is numerical, left top to bottom is alphabetical.
Also, just so everyone knows where were going with this. Once we decide on some major cities and civilizations and so on i would like to break it up and let people work in there own flavor. For example, Sulaco may want a barbarian Dwarf city somewhere on the outskirts of a desert or something. Thats cool, once we get some locations worked out i would people to go with their idea's. Design the culture, the cities, what they have in trade goods, are they hostile or friendly and so on. Hoping to get about 10 different people doing this. I think having around 10, give or take a few, major civilizations would be a great thing.
As always any suggestions are great, but lets get this going... | |
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orcdoubleax
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| | 05/27/2006 12:02 PM |
| What races are we using?
What does everyone thing of a kingdom/empire where evil humanoids are in control. Maybe orcs, but more likly Goblinoids hobs, goblins and some bugbears. It would not have to be large and could be on one of the larger of the small islands such as the one at 32 arcoss 12 down.
on second thought I like the island at 22-7 better. | |
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taliesin
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1113 Posts
| | 05/27/2006 7:49 PM |
| Are all of the core races represented? A lot of people dislike gnomes. I personally don't like elves [I blame FR (and WakeXX), with a perfect subrace for every class). Maybe this world doesn't have any of either?
Or, if we need elves because they are a staple of fantasy, which subraces? | |
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orcdoubleax
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694 Posts
| | 05/27/2006 9:52 PM |
| I vote no Warforge of any kind and lots of gnomes.
As for my earlier suggestion.
The goblnoid empire would encompase all four of the islands shown on the map and the 12 smaller island that you can see. It is close to the ice cap and mountanious so the area is fairly inhospitable.
There would be six major cities and a lot of smaller settlements. The settlements would be along the coast as the primary industries are sea based.
Fishing, whaling, trading, raiding, slave trade, & piracey
It would of course be LE and I was thinking it would have a strict Caste system. The different goblinoid races and sub races would be born into certain roles in society. | |
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maijstral
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2105 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 2:38 AM |
| The chain of islands off the west coast at BQ5-BO7. How about a massive cliff face or someother obstuction such as nearly unnavigatable reefs that prevents them from reaching the mainland effectivly isolating them from the rest of a the continent and the world. An entire civilazation that developed almost totally isolated from the rest of the world.
Perhaps they are a xenaphobic race that if they could would mount a war of conquest on the rest of the world, or just simply believe they are better than any outsider and don't want the taint of foreigners so any who make it through there natural defences are destroyed out of hand. | | | |
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orcdoubleax
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694 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 5:41 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by maijstral
The chain of islands off the west coast at BQ5-BO7. How about a massive cliff face or someother obstuction such as nearly unnavigatable reefs that prevents them from reaching the mainland effectivly isolating them from the rest of a the continent and the world. An entire civilazation that developed almost totally isolated from the rest of the world.
Perhaps they are a xenaphobic race that if they could would mount a war of conquest on the rest of the world, or just simply believe they are better than any outsider and don't want the taint of foreigners so any who make it through there natural defences are destroyed out of hand.
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Aravis
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1155 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 6:02 AM |
| | How about a group of Wild Elves that live in the Rain Forest near the middle of the map? They could have an elaborate system of houses in the trees and what not. The culture mainly uses spears instead of swords because of the dense foilage and it is easier for them to hunt with spears. They dont really use the water for much, they are fairly isolated because they are mainly living in the heavily forested areas inside the Rainforest. But they will occasionaly use it for trading exotic plants and other beasts they might have tamed that are rare. | |
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Aravis
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1155 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 6:03 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by maijstral
The chain of islands off the west coast at BQ5-BO7. How about a massive cliff face or someother obstuction such as nearly unnavigatable reefs that prevents them from reaching the mainland effectivly isolating them from the rest of a the continent and the world. An entire civilazation that developed almost totally isolated from the rest of the world.
Perhaps they are a xenaphobic race that if they could would mount a war of conquest on the rest of the world, or just simply believe they are better than any outsider and don't want the taint of foreigners so any who make it through there natural defences are destroyed out of hand.
I actually really like that idea of the huge cliff facea nd the reef and what not. Sounds really cool. Perhaps there can be some sort of race living in the Reefy area that prevents them from actually getting anywhere. Most of the time atleast. | |
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Daunte
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518 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 7:06 AM |
| First off keep the ideas coming. Second to answer some of the questions.
1. Will there be gnomes?
If someone wants gnomes and wants to put in the effot to make such a society somewhere on the map then yes there will be.
2. WIll there be elves?
See answer to number 1.
3. Can we not include warforged?
I personally prefer not to, but also once again see answer to question number 1.
Since this is a community project i dont want to make anything absolutely forbidden. If someone wants it and wants to put in the work for it then great, we will definitely add it in.
Also, while making suggestions, please let me know if your willing to also put in the work to design whatever your suggesting. | |
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Corim Danex
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| | 05/28/2006 10:53 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Daunte
First off keep the ideas coming. Second to answer some of the questions.
1. Will there be gnomes?
If someone wants gnomes and wants to put in the effot to make such a society somewhere on the map then yes there will be.
2. WIll there be elves?
See answer to number 1.
3. Can we not include warforged?
I personally prefer not to, but also once again see answer to question number 1.
Since this is a community project i dont want to make anything absolutely forbidden. If someone wants it and wants to put in the work for it then great, we will definitely add it in.
Also, while making suggestions, please let me know if your willing to also put in the work to design whatever your suggesting.
1. I'm fine with gnomes
2. I really want elves
3. I really don't want warforged | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 11:01 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by orcdoubleax
quote:
Originally posted by maijstral
The chain of islands off the west coast at BQ5-BO7. How about a massive cliff face or someother obstuction such as nearly unnavigatable reefs that prevents them from reaching the mainland effectivly isolating them from the rest of a the continent and the world. An entire civilazation that developed almost totally isolated from the rest of the world.
Perhaps they are a xenaphobic race that if they could would mount a war of conquest on the rest of the world, or just simply believe they are better than any outsider and don't want the taint of foreigners so any who make it through there natural defences are destroyed out of hand.
how are you counting?
down the left side each small square a letter when you reach 26 start over with B + a letter example: A,B,C,D through Z then BA,BB,BC etc...
then across the top numbers. so BQ5 would be the 43rd small square down and the 5th one across
However you are correct in not figureing out my system it was late and i seriously misscounted the squares(for one I think I was counting 5 to a larger box not 4).
Edit with correct coordinates: AC5 through AH7(from Daute's map in other thread) | | | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 1:40 PM |
| This might be a little early but I'll throw my ideas out there and see of they stick.
I see the isolated island chain as a yuan-ti civilization.Not as powerfull as it should be because it has been relativly stagnant for 1000's of years. Highly xenophobic they interrogate,destroy,and enslave (sometimes in that order) any outsiders that somehow make it to there shore. There could even be small hidden isolated comunities of other races deep in the jungles the results of escaped slaves.The Yuan-ti may even be aware of the outsider comunities and allow them to exsist so the young have sentient beings to hunt.
Approx. 97% of the worlds Yaun-ti population live on there island nations bissfully unaware of the genral happenings of the outside world, if fact they consider the outside world tainted as they are the one true chosen people. The stagnation is due to the belief any outside ideas are by there origin heretical and tainted.
The small population of Yuan-ti living in the outside world are the result of yuan-ti that have for one reason or another left the islands either in exile or by accident or a failed punitive expedition. There main goals are to get back to the island 'paradise' all there plots and schemes have this end in mind. sometimes generations have passed and the Yaun-ti coven may not even remember where the islands are or how to get there but still have paradise as there ultimate goal little realizing that by this time they too are concidered to 'tainted' by the outside world to ever be welcomed back. | | | |
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Talistran
Warrior
310 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 2:30 PM |
| Gnomes = Yes or no, doesn't matter much to me.
Elves = Please
Warforged = HELL NO
Dinosaurs = HELL NO x2!
It is easier to add in a creature such as dinosaur, then it is to take them out.
I'll think about this more and get back.
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orcdoubleax
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694 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 3:01 PM |
| I suggest that gnomes be present among human kingdoms, but in small numbers. If there ever was a gnomish civilazation it is long gone. Gnomes are scattered people that have found a niche in crafts and trades. This way people can include gnomes in thier games, but they can be ignored if wanted.
As for warforged I suggest they be in the same area as the laser pistols. Some other world.
getting back to my Seafaring Hobgoblin empire. I would like to see someone develop some civilzations on the upper contient so that we have some one to trade [}:)]with. | |
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Daunte
Sergeant
518 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 3:04 PM |
| | Just so people can see what others are thinking im going to start marking the map where people think things should be. Now im going to start another post for this so please read the post and follow it to keep things in order. | |
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Ethandrul
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| | 05/28/2006 5:02 PM |
| | the rain forest at E4 (borders the desert) is the perfect spot for a kobold nation - with an aztec flavor. perhaps they have inslaved the local lizard men and secretly serve the whims of a trio of mind flayers who are quietly building an army. | |
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orcdoubleax
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694 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 7:05 PM |
| Just random ideas that I am trowing out use or discard as you will.
The lower coast of the upper land mass Starting at Approx J-24 to about P-40 would be a good place for several human kingdoms, empires, city states etc. (beside my Hobgoblins need victems I mean trading patners)
There are several plains on of them could have nomadic Horsemen, or maybe a plains style version of barbaric centaurs.
The island chain at M-26 could be the center for trade for much of the inner coast civilzations.
The Island at J-10 is very isolated. This would be a great place for something very interesting. Maybe a long dead civilzations. Or maybe it is filled with dragons.
Ethandrul: What about instead of mindflayer a Black Dragon. Since Kobolts are so tied in with dragons. I would also sugest that you would not need the entire rain forest.
The pine forest BH-13 in the very south is also an interesting place. With Elves in the Nortern Pine forest this could be the Ying to thier Yang. this forest could be a very dark and dangerous place where the darkest of forest creatures dwell.
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/28/2006 9:44 PM |
| The Uplands plains would be great place for a wemic tribe. Potentially one that battles Lizardfolks from the jungle bordering. Maybe a major water source between them that they battle for rights/meetup at.
In place of Wemic or allies with Wemic could be catfolk, but I know alot of people hate those. | |
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Ghendar
Warlord
11456 Posts
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| | 05/29/2006 11:37 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Corim Danex
quote:
Originally posted by Daunte
3. Can we not include warforged?
I personally prefer not to, but also once again see answer to question number 1.
Since this is a community project i dont want to make anything absolutely forbidden. If someone wants it and wants to put in the work for it then great, we will definitely add it in.
Also, while making suggestions, please let me know if your willing to also put in the work to design whatever your suggesting.
1. I'm fine with gnomes
2. I really want elves
3. I really don't want warforged
I have to vote no on Warforged. I consider them to be eberron specific.
1. Gnomes - Yes
2. Elves - c'mon, how can we not have elves. [:D]
3. No warforged please. This isn't Eberron. | |
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Ghendar
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| | 05/29/2006 11:39 AM |
| We absolutely need a Wemic civilization of some kind.
I also want an Aarakocra civilization and I call dibs on developing it. [:D] Where are the mountain ranges anyway? | |
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Ghendar
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11456 Posts
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| | 05/29/2006 11:42 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by orcdoubleax
getting back to my Seafaring Hobgoblin empire. I would like to see someone develop some civilzations on the upper contient so that we have some one to trade [}:)]with.
Ooh, seafaring Hobs, I really like that idea. | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 7:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by Corim Danex
quote:
Originally posted by Daunte
3. Can we not include warforged?
I personally prefer not to, but also once again see answer to question number 1.
Since this is a community project i dont want to make anything absolutely forbidden. If someone wants it and wants to put in the work for it then great, we will definitely add it in.
Also, while making suggestions, please let me know if your willing to also put in the work to design whatever your suggesting.
1. I'm fine with gnomes
2. I really want elves
3. I really don't want warforged
I have to vote no on Warforged. I consider them to be eberron specific.
1. Gnomes - Yes
2. Elves - c'mon, how can we not have elves. [:D]
3. No warforged please. This isn't Eberron.
I'm a huge fan of Warforged and even I don't want warforged in this setting. The others are right warforged should remain Eberron specific. | | | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6685 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/29/2006 8:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by orcdoubleax
getting back to my Seafaring Hobgoblin empire. I would like to see someone develop some civilzations on the upper contient so that we have some one to trade [}:)]with.
Ooh, seafaring Hobs, I really like that idea.
I imagine the Elven empire would be cautious trading partners with the hobgoblins at times, inasmuch as the hobgoblin's lawful nature is strong enough. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 11:56 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by orcdoubleax
getting back to my Seafaring Hobgoblin empire. I would like to see someone develop some civilzations on the upper contient so that we have some one to trade [}:)]with.
Ooh, seafaring Hobs, I really like that idea.
Dude I had a world with seafaring Goblins once and I loved it. I would love to toss ideas into that. Goblins/Hobgoblins seafarers (of course in my world gobs were smarter than stereotypical gobs) | |
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MightyEinherjar
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387 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 1:16 AM |
| | I would LOVE to see a group of Germanic/Nordic based barbarians living in the Northern Pine Forest/Tiaga with their own views of the other races and Gods. It could be a sort of large woodcutter type civilization with a very isolated feel. I could see them being one of the stems of humans on the planet, and could have lived in their home since the creation of the world. They could have some sort of craft that would be legend-worthy to the rest of the mainland, thus a reason for adventures to seek out the barbarians and their old lore. | |
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Ghendar
Warlord
11456 Posts
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| | 05/30/2006 7:15 AM |
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Originally posted by MightyEinherjar
I would LOVE to see a group of Germanic/Nordic based barbarians living in the Northern Pine Forest/Tiaga with their own views of the other races and Gods. It could be a sort of large woodcutter type civilization with a very isolated feel. I could see them being one of the stems of humans on the planet, and could have lived in their home since the creation of the world. They could have some sort of craft that would be legend-worthy to the rest of the mainland, thus a reason for adventures to seek out the barbarians and their old lore.
I was thinking of something similar and have some ideas based on a series of books by Turtledove I once read. I like the isolated culture kind of idea. Not necessarily isolated from their immediate neighbors, but from the rest of the continent. | |
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MightyEinherjar
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| | 05/31/2006 2:43 AM |
| | I was thinking of having them sticking to similar viewpoints as the humans had in older Poetic Edda type nordic myths, ie believe all dwarves come from the ground, etc. Also, I was thinking about the idea of having a race of Frost Giants living in the same area that they have an ages long feud with. | |
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
132 Posts
| | 06/03/2006 6:26 PM |
| My two cents.
FIRST
I very much would like an area where, as a PC, I could participate in an oriental adventures setting. I'm a huge fan of the book (even though its 3.0) and think that an area like that would attract some of the large population of anime fans to D&D.
SECOND
After finishing my "Undead Empire" to my liking, I plan on creating a colliseum where a variety of contests are held every ten years in honor of the gods (similar to the olympics). More to come on this, but I need someone to rope off a small portion of land (maybe a square) where I can put my arena. Also, I'd like some input as to where to put it and also I'm going to create a thread where we can all agree as to what games/contests there will be and also what the rules will be.
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6685 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 06/03/2006 6:46 PM |
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Originally posted by Random Sasquatch
I very much would like an area where, as a PC, I could participate in an oriental adventures setting. I'm a huge fan of the book (even though its 3.0) and think that an area like that would attract some of the large population of anime fans to D&D.
We're trying to make a world with a campaign setting. So, any other non-core campaign settings are, I believe, off limits.
The oriental adventures campaign setting is a consistent and developed setting, as is Eberron, and Dragonlance, and Forgotten Realms. They each have their own flavor and rules.
I believe that we are trying to come up with a new world and campaign setting that is internally consistent. | |
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
132 Posts
| | 06/03/2006 6:56 PM |
| Oriental adventures is more a sourcebook than a campaign setting. There are no characters, cities or anything else that make it it's own world.
Basically, its a book which allows for the Orient to be "dropped" into any campaign setting. Similar to things such as goliaths which originate in a splatbook and can be brought into any campaign.
If you guys say no oriental, then that's OK, but I think it would bring more to the world. | |
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MightyEinherjar
Sergeant
387 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 4:02 PM |
| | I'm really not fond of anything oriental. As I said in another thread, even my Ogre Mage's look Western. Also, I wouldn't want to bring in a huge shipment of anime fans over regular RPGers. Anime and Oriental things tend to have the stereotype of having one super powered guy or group being able to tackle anything, mainly due to mysticism or a lifetime of commitment. While that idea isn't unheard of in other groups... hmmm, I think I'll stop here, because I'll probably start ranting about things, and that has nothing to do with the topic really. | |
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