Thanks for sharing your take on the current D&D system.

Considering what I have heard about the focus of 4E, your desires are likely to go unfulfilled, as I am led to believe support for earlier versions of the game will also be. Of course this is based on spculative essays regarding the matter...

Cheers,
Gary

Posted By darkwaters on 09/25/2006 1:59 PM
 Many swore they would stand behind old TSR's AD&D as well as first edition, but where we stand today is a dominate 3.5 market with few desperately trying to hold on to their older systems.

Posted By Host on 09/18/2006 12:39 PM
Gary responded:

Posted By darkwaters on 09/25/2006 1:59 PM
I believe that people will buy 4th edition because most new gamers will go out and buy the newest system and with the most notable name, which is Dungeons and Dragons. It will be pushed and it will be sold. Will it be a better system? Probably not. Will we buy it? Hopefully not but when the gamer market shifts direction will we really want to be left behind while others little by little move on? Many swore they would stand behind old TSR's AD&D as well as first edition, but where we stand today is a dominate 3.5 market with few desperately trying to hold on to their older systems. I will stand by 3.5 for as long as possible, but when the game makes the shift in fanbase, I too may go down that dark road.

Posted By Nurvel on 11/26/2006 1:26 PM
I won't be playing 4th edition because I think they are just trying to squeeze money like mentioned in a different forum.  I have actually stopped buying wizards products minus the minis because most of the new books are just pointless.  I like 3.5 and believe it is the best version of D&D for years to come.  I really dont see how they can make it better.  Most GM's tinker with the system enough to suit their needs anyway.Â

Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 07/01/2007 2:53 AM




Umm... That's the whole point of business, is to squeeze money out of the consumers.

Posted By gss_000 on 07/02/2007 1:38 PM
But the reverse is that people stop buying their products because there is nothing new.

A lot of people complained when 3.5 came out 3 years after 3.0 and people still bought it. People will complain, even if it's another 2-4 years before another edition comes out, but buy it anyways.

Posted By gss_000 on 07/02/2007 1:38 PM
But the reverse is that people stop buying their products because there is nothing new.

A lot of people complained when 3.5 came out 3 years after 3.0 and people still bought it. People will complain, even if it's another 2-4 years before another edition comes out, but buy it anyways.

Posted By Teflon Jeff on 07/02/2007 2:05 PM


QFT!

Yeah, people will complain, but as Sulaco says, if Wizards gave out boxes of money, some people would complain about the way it was folded.

Posted By Corim Danex on 07/05/2007 3:41 PM
If the game "becomes stagnant" it's not because it needs reworking of the rules, it's because the creativity department is lacking. Good, well written and designed adventures do more to give the game life than another edition.

Posted By Corim Danex on 07/07/2007 10:37 AM
Endless revisions are pathetic.

There are always changes that can be made because there is more than one way to do things. But that doesn't mean that changes are an improvement.

Cranking out adventures does not mean that there is quality being made. What they need is high quality adventures. This takes time and effort.

Sure, there is one DM in a typical group and maybe 5-6 people (players and DM), so when adventures come out, it is a smaller portion of the gamers that buy them. But my players are barely scratching together enough money for the core books as it is. Another edition means would push us out. Because we would stay with 3.5 and not purchase the core 4.0 nor the supplements.

I seriously don't see glaring problems with 3.5 that necessitate a new system.

Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 07/08/2007 1:42 AM
I don't buy adventures. I tend to pass them up because adventures don't do it for me. I homebrew, I come up with my own adventures and the players actually make the decisions on what happens next. And actually, quite a few gamers I know does this same thing too.

Posted By zenthrus on 07/08/2007 2:08 AM
Many DMs work the same way. Many DMs don't have the time/ability/interest to run campaigns from scratch. Also, when first learning to DM it's very beneficial to run a published adventure or two to get a feel for how encounters are balanced/seamed together cohesively/etc.

Looking at the products in the offing for 4th-quarter '07 (and looking at '07 as a whole) I expect we'll see a core revision sooner than later. As has been pointed out previously, edition decline cycles are hallmarked by an escalation of lower-quality splatbooks and published adventures. While most of the published adventures over the past year have been reasonably high quality, the quality of the splatbooks has declined markedly (MMV will be a great indicator as to future quality benchmarks).

I'm far more impartial about 4th edition that I used to be. My gaming group took along time (and a lot of convincing) to move to 3.5. It'll take a lot more time and still more convincing the badger them into adopting yet another ruleset. If the majority want to switch, I'll pick up a new PHB. But I won't be the one acquiring the common-use library of gaming books. My shelves are already a bit overfull and I only have about 1/2 of the existing (non-setting-specific) 3.5 material.

Ironically, the more splatbooks that are published, the less content our group actually uses. Complete Mage sees quite a bit of use. Complete Scoundrel much less. Complete Champion...well, there are a couple of feats which are incredibly useful but the rest of the book is merely so many dead trees.