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10/01/2006 10:59 AM  
I think it's really lame to have a forum section dedicated to rumors about 4th edition. There are many people who have expressed that they don't want a 4th edition to be made (either soon or at all). The existence of this forum is as a thorn in the side. Please delete it.

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10/01/2006 6:56 PM  
Please do NOT get rid of this Forum.

We already know that WotC comes and reads what we have to say.  Having a forum to discusses the good/bad points of what has been speculated about is not a bad thing.

If 100% of the membership of these forums is against a new edition for reason X, then perhaps WotC will take that into consideration as they start/continue/contemplate 4e development.

I enjoy reading the rumors, and speculating on what various tidbits may mean...

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10/06/2006 3:50 PM  
Wow, two guys whose views I respect standing at opposite ends of town (with pistols drawn? at noon? with tumble weed rolling by?).

Getting rid of the forum may ultimately make sense, but, for now, it's not really doing any harm. If some good comes of it, it will have been worth leaving up.

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10/17/2006 8:06 AM  
Knowing absolutely nothing about what changes are being considered for 4th edition, I'm neither looking forward to or upset about it.

But it's coming, and there should be a place to talk about it for those who want to. Deleting the forum isn't going to stop them from making it.

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10/19/2006 2:39 PM  
I don't know about removing the forum, but I think the posts here are very misleading, given the lack of context (the Gary Gygax post is essentially him talking completely out of his ass, for example) and how old some of these comments are.

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10/21/2006 8:04 PM  

Agreed.

 

Quotes without context, and links to the original source aren't very helpful.  I'd read most of them before hand, so I had the perspective already, but many would not.

 

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10/22/2006 9:21 AM  
Maybe there should be a stickied forum post stating rules like this that posters should read first so that this can become an area about keeping informed on changes wihout denegrating into a wild rumor mill.

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11/02/2006 9:46 AM  
Well since we know nothing at this point, it's time for wacky pointless unfounded rumors.

4th ED will use the AC system from 1st ED.
Gygax will design 4th ED
All classes from the "complete" books will become core.
Haste will be unnerfed.
Greyhawk will get FR level support.
FR and Eberron will both plane shift into each other creating a very interesting game world indeed.
Ghendar will be in charge of coordinating 4th Ed conversion of all 1st ED and Basic/Expert D&D modules. (okay this one is clearly false. )

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11/02/2006 10:12 AM  
don't forget the scale change in 4th edition. that why the new minis are larger.. ssshhh don't tell anyone.

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11/02/2006 10:12 AM  
4th Ed will know no limit. It's going to use the d02 resolution mechanic.

www2.hawaii.edu/~rdeese/RPG/D02/D02.htm


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11/02/2006 10:43 AM  
News Flash!!!!

4th ED initiative to be based on 1st ED.

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11/02/2006 2:26 PM  
Wow. I can't believe how wrong you all are. This is so silly. Can't you guys take it more seriously?

Everyone knows that it's going to be Mike Mearls' Fight Battle d10,000,001 system. http://mearls.livejournal.com (May 1, 2006 entry)

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11/03/2006 4:24 AM  
Posted By gss_000 on 11/02/2006 2:26 PM
Wow. I can't believe how wrong you all are. This is so silly. Can't you guys take it more seriously?

Everyone knows that it's going to be Mike Mearls' Fight Battle d10,000,001 system. http://mearls.livejournal.com (May 1, 2006 entry)


That's crazy talk. YOU'RE CrAzY!!!!!


More news!!!
Elucidia will become an iconic character in 4th ED.
The Wrackspawn will be added to the PH as a player race.
Level draining will be unnerfed.
Meepo will be elevated to god status and will replace Bahamut

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11/03/2006 12:10 PM  
Wow! So much I didn't know. Only thing I had heard was that 4th ed. would be on-line only with a fee structure dependent on what class and level your character was. Those with the money get to be the high level characters, kind of like if you pay more you can cut in line at the amusement park.

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11/06/2006 1:14 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 11/03/2006 4:24 AM
Posted By gss_000 on 11/02/2006 2:26 PM
Wow. I can't believe how wrong you all are. This is so silly. Can't you guys take it more seriously?

Everyone knows that it's going to be Mike Mearls' Fight Battle d10,000,001 system. http://mearls.livejournal.com (May 1, 2006 entry)


That's crazy talk. YOU'RE CrAzY!!!!!


More news!!!
Elucidia will become an iconic character in 4th ED.
The Wrackspawn will be added to the PH as a player race.
Level draining will be unnerfed.
Meepo will be elevated to god status and will replace Bahamut

Best edition ever! I always wanted to play a Wrackspawn Cleric of Meepo, but no one would let me.

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11/06/2006 4:17 AM  
Posted By Low Key on 11/06/2006 1:14 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 11/03/2006 4:24 AM
Posted By gss_000 on 11/02/2006 2:26 PM
Wow. I can't believe how wrong you all are. This is so silly. Can't you guys take it more seriously?

Everyone knows that it's going to be Mike Mearls' Fight Battle d10,000,001 system. http://mearls.livejournal.com (May 1, 2006 entry)


That's crazy talk. YOU'RE CrAzY!!!!!


More news!!!
Elucidia will become an iconic character in 4th ED.
The Wrackspawn will be added to the PH as a player race.
Level draining will be unnerfed.
Meepo will be elevated to god status and will replace Bahamut

Best edition ever! I always wanted to play a Wrackspawn Cleric of Meepo, but no one would let me.

Silly fellow.
That would need to be a Redeemed Wrackspawn Cleric of Meepo. Sheesh!

No Hazel, no peace


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How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29
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11/06/2006 10:22 PM  
Posted By Ghendar on 11/06/2006 4:17 AM
Posted By Low Key on 11/06/2006 1:14 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 11/03/2006 4:24 AM
Posted By gss_000 on 11/02/2006 2:26 PM
Wow. I can't believe how wrong you all are. This is so silly. Can't you guys take it more seriously?

Everyone knows that it's going to be Mike Mearls' Fight Battle d10,000,001 system. http://mearls.livejournal.com (May 1, 2006 entry)


That's crazy talk. YOU'RE CrAzY!!!!!


More news!!!
Elucidia will become an iconic character in 4th ED.
The Wrackspawn will be added to the PH as a player race.
Level draining will be unnerfed.
Meepo will be elevated to god status and will replace Bahamut

Best edition ever! I always wanted to play a Wrackspawn Cleric of Meepo, but no one would let me.

Silly fellow.
That would need to be a Redeemed Wrackspawn Cleric of Meepo. Sheesh!

Riding a redeemed dretch?


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11/08/2006 6:30 AM  
I hope it doesnt come out. I'm getting tired of buying new stuff over and over again.

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11/08/2006 8:50 AM  
Back to this serious post, it's going to come out. It's inevitable, else D&D is dead. The real question is when and in what form. I think they should wait a few more years, but by then 3rd ed will ha been out about as long as 2nd ed.

Until then, all we can do is wait for real news and have fun with the rumors.

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11/16/2006 6:30 PM  
Lets do a "driver roll back" and return to the good ole days of gamin - 1st edition will be the new 4th edition~~~~!!!

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11/22/2006 8:24 AM  
Posted By Harneloot on 11/16/2006 6:30 PM
Lets do a "driver roll back" and return to the good ole days of gamin - 1st edition will be the new 4th edition~~~~!!!


or you could just....play 1st ed....now.  

I find the whole 1st ed nostaligia trip pretty interesting.  Having cut my teeth on 1st and having played 3.5 extensively, I find I prefer 3.5.  Creating fun, involving characters is not limited by edition.  The DM and players define the experience, not the rules-they're an adjunct.

My two cents...

That being said, they should take their time with 4th Ed and work to address the flaws in the current system (so we can find all new flaws in whatever they come up with).Â

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