Posted By Wraithborne on 06/07/2007 10:18 AM
I'm sure someone will, but i'll be busy snagging all of the cheap 3.x sourcebooks on ebay.

Posted By gss_000 on 06/07/2007 10:22 AM

If you want another good site, check out Noble Knight Games

But I'd expect any speculation to start a couple of years after. It's the nature of the industry.  Once you get through the core stuff, you have to start on the next edition, else the game will die.Â

Posted By gss_000 on 08/05/2007 6:08 PM
No, it will be a dead game over time. It's naive to think that a game can survive forever without new rules. Check your history. Before 3rd ed D&D was heading down that path. It was stale and people were leaving it to play newer games. Games are like languages, they need to change or else they wither away. Name me one game that hasn't ever updated their rules and is still commonly played.

Posted By Vrecknidj on 08/03/2007 6:43 AM
Wizards of the Coast will. They've already said that 4th edition speculation began pretty much a month after 3rd edition hit the streets.

Dave

Posted By gss_000 on 08/07/2007 9:06 AM
LOL! Good ones. I should have limited my statement to RPGs.

Not that I'm quibbling, but I'm actually shocked to hear people still play 1st ed and that you say it's a strong following. I always thought it was a loud following, not a strong one.

I'm only basing it on my little pond, the conventions I have gone too and like, I often hear comments of people who say they still play 1st. Second edition too, though imo that's louder online.
So I could be completly wrong. But the people who do still play it follow it strongly umm yeah [Wink]

However, I am far more invested in 3.5 than I ever was in 3.0. Though the switch to 3.5 bothered me quite a bit, a switch to 4.0 will bother me more and affect me longer. I may not ever switch to 4.0, that's how much it would bother me. I would stop purchasing WotC D&D products.

Posted By gss_000 on 08/07/2007 9:23 AM
The 3.5 change was pretty quick. The only thing that saved it was that it fixed a lot of problems, some of which needed to be fixed, but could have been put off for another year or two. If it hadn't, I would have been a lot more upset about it, but it was still a dangerously short period and I think the anger was justified there.

If they are putting out stuff for 2008, then I can't see it earlier than 2010. There's going to be a period, probably a year, where not much if any will come out to build anticipation.

Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 08/08/2007 8:59 PM
The fixes didn't do anything. Disintigrate should always have been save or die, like always.

Buff spells lasting for minutes? Why can't they have DMs cast spells like dispel magic and such? And don't give me that crap, well I'll cast a counterspell to that as a PC... I'd be like no, you just weren't ready for casting that spell. Or in reaction, I'd hit the counter with a reactive counter by an invisible wizard you just weren't aware of... The changes for the most part were dumb. Don't tell me my animal companion can't be awakened. If I want it to be, and DM allows it, I can cast it. I will not, as a DM, allow something as retarded as an empowered maximized awaken. And the DMs shouldn't either. It's all common sense. Sides, now that the animal companion is awakened, they will have needs as a PC, and if neglected, the animal companion could just leave. Yep...

As far as WotC making a 4th edition, it's inevitable. They have to, or it will stagnate just like AD&D did. And what happened to TSR? They went bankrupt. What will happen to WotC? They could lose it. Hasbro might decide that the profits are dry and either take control of it, or... They might shut DnD down, and then there's no D&D anymore until another company picks it up. So... What else? Just come out with it already. There's companies, a great many companies, that would stick with 3.x. Look at all of em. Some are great like Sword & Sorcery, Green Ronin, AEG, Mongoose, and Necromancer Games. And then there's bad companies, like the ones that came out with Arms and Armor (There were many items that were known to be way too good for costs and such. Silver Spiderweave which was light armor, is far better than a chainshirt. Arrows that have a 18-20/x3 crit that still deals 1d6 damage. Or some that deal extra damage just because they could. What about vorpal arrows that could kill in a hit? And there's the blood weapons that do far more damage (A two-handed sword that only needs EWP to use dealing 3d8 damage at a x4 crit.) Yeah, it's all just way too much for me..

As far as WotC making a 4th edition, it's inevitable. They have to, or it will stagnate just like AD&D did. And what happened to TSR? They went bankrupt. What will happen to WotC? They could lose it.

Posted By gss_000 on 08/07/2007 9:06 AM
LOL! Good ones. I should have limited my statement to RPGs.

Not that I'm quibbling, but I'm actually shocked to hear people still play 1st ed and that you say it's a strong following. I always thought it was a loud following, not a strong one.

Posted By Ghendar on 08/14/2007 4:28 AM


There are quite a few folks still playing older editions.
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