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Wraithborne
Commander
3531 Posts
    
West Virginia
 | | 08/16/2007 7:00 AM |
| Well, for $14 each on amazom.com anyway.
Wizards of the Coast will release two 4th Edition preview books in December and January http://www.amazon.com/Wizards-Presents-Classes-Michele-Carter/dp/0786948019
and
http://www.amazon.com/Wizards-Presents-World-Monsters-Supplement/dp/0786948027
Think what you want...paying for previews is the lamest thing I've seen thus far. | |
The year: 1994. From out of space comes a runaway planet, hurtling between the Earth and the Moon, unleashing cosmic destruction! Man's civilization is cast in ruin!
Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!
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Raland
Sergeant
881 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 7:10 AM |
| | Cash Grab!!! Gotta love it, real class Wotc. Pick me, pick me! Can I pay to edit and test your product? | |
Champion of the Kender
ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007"
Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5804 Posts
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
652 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 08/16/2007 8:06 AM |
| | Yeah, I was hoping for a free booklet like 3.0's "Conversion Manual." | |
"Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10787 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 08/16/2007 9:52 AM |
| rotfl! | |
Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2465 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 08/16/2007 9:54 AM |
| | omg...sad. this is one of the few books that i will just drop my morality and limewire. | | | |
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
652 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 08/16/2007 10:05 AM |
| Here's a link to the most information I've seen so far:
http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/11123.html
Wizards of the Coast is announcing at GenCon today that it will release the 4th Edition of its category-leading Dungeons and Dragon roleplaying game in 2008, the first full new edition in eight years. The three core books will be released next summer on a monthly schedule: Player's Handbook in May, Monster Manual in June, and Dungeon Master's Guide in July. Pricing and page counts of the new products will be consistent with current packaging. Graphics have been updated, art will be used on the covers, and interior design has been opened up to make the books less intimidating to new players.
Lead-in products, Wizards Presents: Classes and Races and Wizards Presents: Worlds and Monsters, will be released in December. An April release, Keep of the Shadowfell, will include a set of quickstart rules for 4E.
While there are changes in play (such as incorporating "epic-level play," with 30 levels instead of 20), they are described as "evolutionary" rather than "revolutionary." Other changes include new power sources, changes in resource management, and new encounter design, and more clearly defined monster roles. Changes will speed play, make the game easier to learn, and make DM-ing easier. Concepts for 4th Edition gameplay were tested in the new Star Wars RPG, and the Book of 9 Swords.
What the company does describe as revolutionary is the method of product delivery, which will incorporate online play for the first time. WotC is incorporating online components into the game through a new Website, DnDInsider.com. Each paper product will include codes to unlock digital versions on the site for a "nominal" activation fee. Players will also be able to use DnDInsider tools and access regular new content similar to the material that was previously released in Dragon and Dungeon magazines (see "Interview with Liz Schuh") for a monthly fee (as yet undetermined) greater than the old subscription price, but less than a MMORPG subscription. Magazine-style content will be added to the site three times a week and compiled into digital "issues" monthly.
Gameplay features on the Web will include a digital D&D game table, and voice chat and text messaging, to allow online players to communicate with each other. The online play is designed to "supplement, not replace" meatspace play.
The Open Gaming License will continue as it has in the past, allowing the use of the rules in other publishers' games.
Work on the new edition began in 2005, with the major work all accomplished in the last year.
D&D products released between now and the launch of 4th Edition will fall into three groups. Edition-proof products (which are mostly story) will not include mechanics that are edition-specific. Some products will be "enhanced" to 4th Edition mechanics after release through DnDInsider, and a couple of series will end as 3.5 products.
The setting for the core books are campaign neutral. Forgotten Realms will be the first campaign setting to be updated (in August 200 . Other campaign settings will be updated at a rate of one per year. | |
"Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
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hazel monday
Warrior
338 Posts
Baltimore MD
| | 08/16/2007 10:41 AM |
| | The sad thing is how many people can't wait to pay for these previews. WOTC knows they're gonna make a mint on these, otherwise they wouldn't release them. Paying for what are essentially advertisements... Jesus, how stupid do they think we are? | |
Champion of Phanatons. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5804 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 10:42 AM |
| Uhm, was that supposed to be "meetspace" play? "Meatspace" sounds rather duragatory... I realize we're meatbags, but well... yeesh.
Sounds like they're going to SW RPG, which is good.
Yay! Forgotten Realms is first! I'm sure the warforged will have their own island made in FRs, so they can become core. pllllllht. (ok, I'm cynical) | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Demon Web, Darkenbeast in Feywild. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1395 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 11:45 AM |
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Posted By GuJiaXian on 08/16/2007 10:05 AM
Here's a link to the most information I've seen so far:
http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/11123.html
Graphics have been updated, art will be used on the covers, and interior design has been opened up to make the books less intimidating to new players.
Yes, more pics and less text, with bigger fonts  . Smart move, because today's kids usually don't bother with 320 -pages rulebooks. I can't wait to see the new graphic style though...
While there are changes in play (such as incorporating "epic-level play," with 30 levels instead of 20), they are described as "evolutionary" rather than "revolutionary."
What I suspected : no major change for 4E. Although I'll certainly take a look at the PHB, I'm already 99% certain I won't be interested in 4E...
Other changes include new power sources, changes in resource management, and new encounter design, and more clearly defined monster roles.
??? (especially the bolded text - looked like computer-techie blarb).
Only hoping they get rid of the 2-pages statblocks...
Changes will speed play, make the game easier to learn, and make DM-ing easier.
Who wouldn't like this ? Easier to say than do though... I'll wait to have tested it to believe it.
What the company does describe as revolutionary is the method of product delivery, which will incorporate online play for the first time. WotC is incorporating online components into the game through a new Website, DnDInsider.com. Each paper product will include codes to unlock digital versions on the site for a "nominal" activation fee. Players will also be able to use DnDInsider tools and access regular new content similar to the material that was previously released in Dragon and Dungeon magazines (see "Interview with Liz Schuh") for a monthly fee (as yet undetermined) greater than the old subscription price, but less than a MMORPG subscription. Magazine-style content will be added to the site three times a week and compiled into digital "issues" monthly.
As an olschooler who prefers to have a nice a book/magazine in his hands and not hurt his eyes reading text for hours on a computer screen, I'm still not really interested.
The Open Gaming License will continue as it has in the past, allowing the use of the rules in other publishers' games.
This sentence is the best part of the article. I suspect (err... no, I'm sure) there will be slight modifications to the OGL, and this will produce 100-pages threads on ENWorld...
Work on the new edition began in 2005, with the major work all accomplished in the last year.
So, only 1 or 2 years after 3.5 release... faster and faster pacing here. Are they already beginning to plan 4.5 ?
The setting for the core books are campaign neutral. Forgotten Realms will be the first campaign setting to be updated (in August 200 . Other campaign settings will be updated at a rate of one per year.
Interesting. WHICH other campaign settings, please ? Because AFAIK only 2 were supported : FR and Eberron. Could it mean that Dragonlance or Ravenloft are be back ? THAT would be a smart move.
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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hazel monday
Warrior
338 Posts
Baltimore MD
| | 08/16/2007 1:12 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 08/16/2007 11:45 AM Work on the new edition began in 2005, with the major work all accomplished in the last year.
So, only 1 or 2 years after 3.5 release... faster and faster pacing here. Are they already beginning to plan 4.5 ?
I'd be shocked if it wasn't already written. I predict 4.5 by 2010 at the latest. | |
Champion of Phanatons. | |
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
652 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 08/16/2007 1:17 PM |
| | No, 3.5 was written because Hasbro forced Wizards to release 3.0 earlier than they wanted (for money/stock reasons). As 3.0 was full of holes and had some serious power issues, Wizards decided to release an "update" to the game to fix things rather than simply letting the game sit as-is until 4th edition was ready to release. | |
"Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
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Kepler
Sneak
56 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 1:24 PM |
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It depends on what the previews are. If they are a basic version of the 4th ed game then buying them might not be a bad thing.
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yack
Commander
3162 Posts
Ottawa, Canada
| | 08/16/2007 3:05 PM |
| PaSquall
I'm right with ya... I have no interest in this and even more no interesting knowing i have to download and spend more time on the computer..and printing my own stuff. If I'm paying any money I want the book not just some binder.
First Dungeon mag now my game..sigh I'm tired of this..... going back to 3.5 and AD&D. I have a feeling with 4th Ed. there will be less RPG in the actual game also. It will be more like war gaming ugh!
later
Yack. | |
Champion of the Peryton
Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer
ATG: Fog Giant
DW: Duergar Priest
RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 08/16/2007 3:08 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 08/16/2007 11:45 AM
Interesting. WHICH other campaign settings, please ? Because AFAIK only 2 were supported : FR and Eberron. Could it mean that Dragonlance or Ravenloft are be back ? THAT would be a smart move.
Ravenloft is owned by Sword and Sorcery studios. And it thrives there. It's better than the TSR's version and WotC's sad attempts with Ravenloft a year back. Dragonlance is not it either, Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman owns the rights to that world.
So.... Which will it be? Anyone thinking what I'm thinking? Spelljammer and Planescape? Or Greyhawk?
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Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
652 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 08/16/2007 3:14 PM |
| | Actually, the rights to Ravenloft reverted to Wizards of the Coast last year. | |
"Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1395 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 4:27 PM |
| Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 08/16/2007 3:08 PM Posted By PaSquall on 08/16/2007 11:45 AM
Interesting. WHICH other campaign settings, please ? Because AFAIK only 2 were supported : FR and Eberron. Could it mean that Dragonlance or Ravenloft are be back ? THAT would be a smart move.
Ravenloft is owned by Sword and Sorcery studios. And it thrives there. It's better than the TSR's version and WotC's sad attempts with Ravenloft a year back. Dragonlance is not it either, Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman owns the rights to that world.So.... Which will it be? Anyone thinking what I'm thinking? Spelljammer and Planescape? Or Greyhawk?
No, they only have a license until january 2008. WotC owns the rights.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/news/20070623a
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1395 Posts
| | 08/16/2007 5:00 PM |
| Posted By yack on 08/16/2007 3:05 PM
PaSquall
I'm right with ya... I have no interest in this and even more no interesting knowing i have to download and spend more time on the computer..and printing my own stuff. If I'm paying any money I want the book not just some binder.
First Dungeon mag now my game..sigh I'm tired of this..... going back to 3.5 and AD&D. I have a feeling with 4th Ed. there will be less RPG in the actual game also. It will be more like war gaming ugh!
later
Yack. 100% agree, alas... I really don't need more wargamy combat, and tons of rules for anything...
You see, that was one of the main reasons I didn't convert to 3E (I played a bit, but for a DM friend who had converted and who needed players and really wanted me to try).
I had a chance of converting to 4E if it had been a real departure from 3E, i.e. discard alignment system, discard the class system, discard the vancian spell system and use mana like in any CRPG, use a "ability/feat/spell/skill/whatever-buy system when you're levelling up, etc. But it's not the case, they have already said that the gap between 3.5 and 4E will be smaller than between 2 and 3E. So I'm afraid I won't be interested in 4E, and I'll probably stick to my 1E/2E hybrid I have perfected over the years, and a bit of 3.5 from time to time. I'd like to be wrong, but...
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6614 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 08/16/2007 5:14 PM |
| Well, WotC has just decided that they don't want my money as much as they have in the past, as I have no interest in purchasing another edition. It's too bad, because I would have continued purchasing books for 3.5.
I am very disappointed in the decision to make a 4.0. I don't care that the biggest argument people have made to me is that they need to keep making money. That isn't exactly a compelling argument for me. I have been buying their products, and we shall see how much longer I will. | |
"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4811 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 08/17/2007 11:10 AM |
| | This actually makes me happy. I'm in quite a financial crunch at the moment and by the looks of things, I can spend less money on gaming paraphanelia in the future. My gaming group responded very negatively to a new edition (and very positively to continuing to use the vast amount of 3.5 resources we've accumulated). | |
Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie?
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Ghendar
Warlord
11197 Posts
The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
| | 08/17/2007 11:16 AM |
| Posted By Kepler on 08/16/2007 1:24 PM It depends on what the previews are. If they are a basic version of the 4th ed game then buying them might not be a bad thing.
They won't be. What would be WotC's motivation to give us the basics thus depriving themselves of the money we would plunk down for the actual rule books? Makes no sense.
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Ghendar - Bringin' the snark!
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Skyscraper
Sergeant
659 Posts
Montreal
| | 08/17/2007 11:20 AM |
| Although i agree with many points raised here, i'd like to bring it down to this question: could 3.5 not be improved?
I happen to think so. In 3.5, I don't like the fact that it takes us an hour to finish a short battle, 2-3 hours to accomplish a regular battle and 4 hours or more to finish a long battle. I don't like the fact that we need to open up the book 5-6 times or more every game to see the exact wording of this or that feat to see if it stacks with this or that spell; I don't like the fact that even after having opened up the book 12 times to the grapple rules, some questions remain unanswered; I don't like the fact that you need to roll listen and spot checks for your 7 sentries and compare then to the respective hide and move silently checks of the six PCs that are trying to surprise them; and so on.
3.5 is a fun system. We like it. We play with it. There are many good things about it. But it's way too complex for the intented purpose. It makes battles the center of any RPG evening since they're too long, unless you simply don't do any which is not a solution that i find acceptable.
Am i thrilled that they're coming out with 4E? I'd say that i'm curious. I want to see how they propose to handle what my gaming group and myself perceive as problems with the current 3.5 edition. If they can come up with good solutions while indeed maintaining the good side of the game as they say they do, then i'll be a future customer. I only buy the core books and the occasional adventure myself, so i'm not loosing a lot to an edition switch anyway.
Have they lied to us and all that stuff? Well, i'd re-read their messages instead of relying on month and year old hazy memories to stake them to the wall. I can't remember their words, but my personal impression from their messages was that they were always very imprecise in their answers.
Just my two cents,
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The wise man doubts often. The ignorant, sometimes. The fool, never. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4811 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 08/17/2007 11:35 AM |
| Hmmm...our group must be abberant since we tend to finish short battles in about 15-20 minutes and long battles in 30-45 minutes. Most of the time is spent with the party trading insults (3 characters with 8 or less Cha can be highly entertaining).
The "preview" books don't appeal to me. I can't imagine that they'll be usable in place of anything Core and why would I want to pay money for a preview of anything? That would be like going to fandango and shelling out $2 to watch a 1-minute movie trailer. Not very satisfying and if you wait a couple of months you could get the whole thing for not much more.
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Skyscraper
Sergeant
659 Posts
Montreal
| | 08/17/2007 1:01 PM |
| Long battles in 30 minutes? Wow. We must be on the edge of being retards or something. Long battles as in, level 7 and up, 5+ PCs and 10+ opponents, you can do that in 30 minutes? Kuddos. What does that look like?
DM:"Mike!"
Mike: (pre-rolled his stuff) "attacsk 23, 18; damage 8, 3. No move."
DM: "10-4. Bob!"
Bob: (pre-rolled his stuff too) "magic missile on dire wolf, damage 12. Move 5-foot here."
DM: "Done. Anna!"
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Hehe Actually, you're not the first to advertise short battles, so i guess some people have managed to streamline their battles much better than we have. Admitedly, we kick in some short role-play comment at each action, there isn't a hit not described by the DM, etc... Still, this must account for only a portion of the extra time, we have to be much slower in the end.
Concerning the preview books, i agree. I don't get who would actually buy an incomplete product and be the play-test dummy for this version, but maybe that's just me.
Sky
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The wise man doubts often. The ignorant, sometimes. The fool, never. | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 08/17/2007 8:44 PM |
| I would bet the streamlined version of combat they use is similar to the 4E version. Much like the skills and powers became the basis of 3E.
One other thing, of course 4E talk started shortly after 3.5. They started making lists of what worked and what didn't, to keep in mind for the next edition. They couldn't do another .X revision, so it went into a 4E file or book, or drawer or whatever. Evolution.
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Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
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zenthrus
Commander
4811 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 08/17/2007 9:28 PM |
| We streamline battle with a couple of house rules:
1) Roll your rolls as the player ahead of you finishes their initiative (roll attack + damage simultaneously)
2) Look everything up immediately after your turn (while the initiative is being resolved around the table).
3) DM uses a Combat Pad to track inits/rounds remaining/etc. (they're rather handy devices for something so simple)
4) Players can only talk during their initiative.
5) Since the rules define a round as six seconds worth of time, most of the time the DM allows you a dramatically slow 6-count (more like 10-15 seconds, but it gets the point across).
6) Only books on the table are PHBs (DM excluded). Any splatbook specials (spells, feats, etc.) have to be copied onto a sheet attached to the character sheet. Our group tends to be rather limiting of splatbook options in general (mostly feats/PrCs from the Complete series, spells from the Spell Compendium).
It's amazing how much faster combats go when each player has time to perform actions comparable to the time their character has to complete actions. Also, less time flipping through books to find options, the faster everything goes. We're extremely fortunate for having a DM that spends quite a bit of time prepping and is capable of handling oddball tactics. During last night's session, we encountered a demonic dagger that possesses whoever touches it. Rather unexpectedly, our barbarian picked up the dagger (despite the paladin's warnings). The party decided that the only thing for it was amputation. One coup-de-grace later and we have a one-armed barbarian. Unfortunately, the paladin accidentally touched the dagger while trying to place it into a box (failed Dex check while using two normal daggers as tongs). His only comment "Nothing for that but removal. Make it quick before I lose my whole arm." So, two severed limbs (and two nearly dead PCs) later, we're limping into town carrying an evil box. Not what the DM expected, but it turned into some really interesting role-playing (particularly involving the lines between good and evil as well as necessity and opportunity).
Granted, things don't always run so well (we had one battle take almost 3 hours due to a variety of problems that arose) but most of the time the battles are short, tense, and memorable. | |
Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie?
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tirwin
Sergeant
454 Posts
North Dakota, USA
| | 08/19/2007 10:39 PM |
| Must be nice! Our battles last forever, and it gets worse with advancement in PC levels. It doesn't help that two of the players never stop talking about the computer game "Vanguard". I played the game for a while but I just don't get it, get a life for the love of god. You would think you could go play a paper and pencil game for a change and leave the computer game out of the conversation for one night a week, they play Vanguard the other six days isn't that enough. I am so annoyed by it that I quit playing Vanguard - how sad is that. Reminds me of an episode of South Park (which I don't watch but have heard about this quote when the characters in the cartoon became addicted to the World of Warcraft) - "How do you kill that which has no life?!" Sorry for the rant but quicker battles with less complicated stat blocks, count me in!!! | |
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Ghendar
Warlord
11197 Posts
The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
| | 08/20/2007 4:31 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 08/17/2007 9:28 PM
Granted, things don't always run so well (we had one battle take almost 3 hours due to a variety of problems that arose) but most of the time the battles are short, tense, and memorable.
I don't mind climactic battles running this long but to have every battle run this long? Yeesh! 
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Ghendar - Bringin' the snark!
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 08/20/2007 11:24 AM |
| Zenthrus, those all look like excellent ideas. Here's what I'm hoping 4E will allow me to do...
I can have all of these books on my laptop, which would be the only other accessory I would need. Keyword searches would allow me to find information very fast, and adjudicate combat as well. | |
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Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10283 Posts
United States
| | 08/20/2007 1:35 PM |
| 1) I'm thinking this preview stuff will get electronically distributed around the net, and they're anticipating it.
2) I'm sure they're already thinking about 5e.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
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