Posted By nyjastul69 on 08/22/2007 9:15 AM
1st edition combat went something like this

Surprise: Combat begins with a check for surprise. Under normal circumstances, each side rolls a d6, and the other side is surprised on a 1 - 2. The difference between the two surprise die rolls indicates the number of six second segments that surprise lasts. Each segment of surprise permits the unsurprised side a full round's worth of action. Missile and thrown weapons may be used at three times the normal rate. While the rules don't explicitly state, we assume that spells may only be cast if their casting time (in segments) fits within the surprise time.

Combat Distance: This is randomly determined after surprise. The DM rolls a d6+4 for the number of inches apart the party is. “Inches,” in this case, refers to the miniatures roots of AD&D. Indoors and underground, an “inch” refers to ten feet, while outdoors, an “inch” refers to ten yards.

Initiative: Once surprise segments are over, both sides roll a d6 for initiative every round. Dexterity does not modify the initiative roll, nor does the weapon speed factor. The higher roll wins initiative. Actions are performed in order of initiative, including missile weapons, spell casting, and melee attacks.

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Posted By Ghendar on 08/22/2007 9:26 AM


I agree, but like many things in life when something superior comes out and replaces the old thing folks need to have it. Once upon a time we had to write hand written letters, now we have email. Do you think most people want to give up that level of convenience and go back to hand writing letters?

Could we get rid of cell phones at this point? Who would prefer going back to VHS when we have DVD.

For good or bad, that's how life works.

Posted By nyjastul69 on 08/22/2007 9:15 AM
1st edition combat went something like this

Surprise: Combat begins with a check for surprise. Under normal circumstances, each side rolls a d6, and the other side is surprised on a 1 - 2. The difference between the two surprise die rolls indicates the number of six second segments that surprise lasts. Each segment of surprise permits the unsurprised side a full round's worth of action. Missile and thrown weapons may be used at three times the normal rate. While the rules don't explicitly state, we assume that spells may only be cast if their casting time (in segments) fits within the surprise time.

Combat Distance: This is randomly determined after surprise. The DM rolls a d6+4 for the number of inches apart the party is. “Inches,” in this case, refers to the miniatures roots of AD&D. Indoors and underground, an “inch” refers to ten feet, while outdoors, an “inch” refers to ten yards.

Initiative: Once surprise segments are over, both sides roll a d6 for initiative every round. Dexterity does not modify the initiative roll, nor does the weapon speed factor. The higher roll wins initiative. Actions are performed in order of initiative, including missile weapons, spell casting, and melee attacks.

Posted By Kepler on 08/22/2007 1:55 PM
I agree the d20 system is better and I much prefer it to THAC0.  My only point was that THAC0 wasn't difficult to learn or use.

Posted By Kepler on 08/22/2007 2:02 PM
There were a lot of 1st edition rules that most of us (at least the people I gamed with) didn't use.�

Posted By Ghendar on 08/22/2007 9:26 AM
I agree, but like many things in life when something superior comes out and replaces the old thing folks need to have it. Once upon a time we had to write hand written letters, now we have email. Do you think most people want to give up that level of convenience and go back to hand writing letters?

Posted By Ghendar on 08/22/2007 4:38 PM
Keep in mind I wasn't saying that email are inherently better then hand written letters, just that they are faster and more convenient.

Every new advance, it seems, becomes a necessity in society. For better or worse.

Posted By PaSquall on 08/22/2007 3:29 PM

Same here. It was in the spirit of 1st edition anyway, rules were merely guidelines we could adapt as we saw fit in our campaigns.

Posted By Skyscraper on 08/22/2007 8:43 PM
We don't have cells either. Resisting hard (I'm in a business where most people do have them.) Not that i'm against them, just that i'm comfortable without.

Sky

Posted By nyjastul69 on 08/23/2007 4:24 AM


Yup, me too.

We played for a short time trying to incorporate all the rules, it didn't last too long.  It was better balanced though.  A long sword wasn't necessarily the best weapon in the game.