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portermj
Warrior
309 Posts
    
 | | 08/19/2007 1:47 AM |
| Warhammer Fantasy: 7th edition
Ars Magica: 5th edition
Shadowrun: 4th edition
Vampire the Masquerade/Requim: 4th edition
Champions: 5th edition
GURPS: 4th edition
On the flip side, the Palldium games only have one or two editions. It must be because they have such great mechanics that they can't be improved upon. : : | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
2696 Posts
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 08/19/2007 7:45 AM |
| Pointing out the editions of other games is something of a canard. Why? Well...
First of all, there are more editions of D&D than four. For those of us that have been in since the red and blue boxes (or even EARLIER), we know that this will actually be... what... 7th edition? (If you count the box sets as one and the prior game as an edition, too.)
Secondly, the investment in D&D is much greater than most of those games. Even Shadowrun - which has a lot of supplemental rulebooks - doesn't reach the level of books most of us have bought for 3.5.
Third, the D&D footprint is much larger - that is, the number of players that will have to change rulebooks is many times the number of other games.
Finally, many of those other games upgraded because they had truly flawed systems. 3.5 may be a bit kludgey, but I wouldn't call it truly flawed.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6234 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 08/19/2007 9:34 AM |
| | Meh, as long as 4E is an improvement, I can't see much reason to complain. They've tried a lot with new books, but in the end, you can only fix so much before the main books need overhauled. I will say, I wish it was one more year till it came out, meaning spring '09. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 08/20/2007 3:22 PM |
| | Me, too. One more year would sit a lot better with me, but then one year is not a huge thing to get over as I hear more. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10557 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 08/30/2007 9:35 PM |
| Posted By portermj on 08/19/2007 1:47 AM On the flip side, the Palldium games only have one or two editions. It must be because they have such great mechanics that they can't be improved upon. : :
Seriously though, out of that lot..... Gurps is the only one I still have and play. A good chunk of that is because earlier books are still largely compatible with my earlier gurps stuff.
Vtms I dropped like a stone when they started with the newer editions. The rest of those games.... well I frankly don't have anything good to say about them realy. | |
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Ghendar
Warlord
10838 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 08/31/2007 4:40 AM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 08/20/2007 3:22 PM
Me, too. One more year would sit a lot better with me, but then one year is not a huge thing to get over as I hear more.
At least two more years would sit a lot better with me, but moot point.
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Leaning towards giving 4e the Digitus Impudicus
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10838 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/14/2007 5:58 AM |
| Posted By portermj on 08/19/2007 1:47 AM Warhammer Fantasy: 7th edition Ars Magica: 5th edition Shadowrun: 4th edition Vampire the Masquerade/Requim: 4th edition Champions: 5th edition GURPS: 4th edition On the flip side, the Palldium games only have one or two editions. It must be because they have such great mechanics that they can't be improved upon. :  :
Whatever.
Not all games that go through revisions are an improvement over previous editions.
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Leaning towards giving 4e the Digitus Impudicus
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
879 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 09/17/2007 12:16 PM |
| Posted By Ghendar on 09/14/2007 5:58 AM Posted By portermj on 08/19/2007 1:47 AM Warhammer Fantasy: 7th edition Ars Magica: 5th edition Shadowrun: 4th edition Vampire the Masquerade/Requim: 4th edition Champions: 5th edition GURPS: 4th edition On the flip side, the Palldium games only have one or two editions. It must be because they have such great mechanics that they can't be improved upon. : : Whatever. Not all games that go through revisions are an improvement over previous editions.
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Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10557 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 09/17/2007 6:13 PM |
| I liked the new edition of Car Wars. Frankly if it was dumbed down... I'm frightened to think what the older rules looked like. | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
879 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 09/19/2007 8:29 AM |
| | The older Car Wars rules were very easy - but some ppl didn't like having to use a calculator for car design...so they changed it... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 42 ): Pikel, Darrell, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x2, Wraithborne x5, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek, Generic Fighter
Pending trades ( 0 ):
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
879 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 09/19/2007 8:29 AM |
| | The older Car Wars rules were very easy - but some ppl didn't like having to use a calculator for car design...so they changed it... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 42 ): Pikel, Darrell, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x2, Wraithborne x5, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek, Generic Fighter
Pending trades ( 0 ):
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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