PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
    
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Now 4E is officially announced, here's a new poll. Please, vote ! A large number of answers mean a more reliable result. | |
Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord
5590 Posts
| | 09/04/2007 12:24 PM |
| | I'm not one to fully commit to something I haven't seen yet (it's why I fully support spoilers for ddms), so although I'm very interested in 4e, I'm not a "definate" in. I'm looking forward to it (aside from the fluff complaint of recent), but I'm not going to blindly drop cash on the latest and greatest. | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Demon Web, Darkenbeast in Feywild. | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
908 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 09/04/2007 12:36 PM |
| | I won't be upgrading. For me, it's a matter of sticking with a system...I didn't move to 3.5 til this year from 2e, and have no desire to teach my players yet another system...I love learning new ones, but not everyone does. | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 43 ): Pikel, Darrell, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x3, Wraithborne x5, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek, Generic Fighter
Pending trades ( 1 ): Auric
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10645 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 09/04/2007 12:38 PM |
| | I'm not likely to be buying into the 4th edition.... however there is always the posibility I might try it in the future. Right now I'm not overly fond of the D20 system and the glut of scourcebooks for 3.5. So in the mean time I'm going to be sticking with other systems. | |
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/04/2007 1:14 PM |
| | Since my group will be switching and I will not be DM'ing, then I have no choice but to switch. Only other option is to find another group. Problem is, I like my group and don't want to find another. | |
No Hazel, no peace 
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 09/04/2007 5:15 PM |
| | My gaming group voted for me - "Yes Definately". Without them my answer would have been "Yes Probably". | |
Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3440 Posts
West Virginia
| | 09/04/2007 7:26 PM |
| | Count me in for absolutely not. I'll stick with 3.5. | |
Hey Woman, Hey Woman!! Listen here. Since your ol' man ain't got no heart, maybe you'd like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya'? I tell you what, bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight and I'll show you a real man!
Ghouls: 1 Player Characters: 0 | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3775 Posts
Adelaide
| | 09/05/2007 12:05 AM |
| Probably not. I have my own homebrew realms, and mostly hoembrew ruleset so I'm not really a bleep on the WoTC product Radar (save for plasticrack).
I will look it over, but doubt I'll feel the need to purchase. | |
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
Semi-Secret sig business: Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. ~ Seinfeld
Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/05/2007 3:47 AM |
| | If I ever run a game again, it will likely be a 3.5/4 hybrid. I'll take those elements from 4E that "fix" stuff but still run basically a 3.5 game. | |
No Hazel, no peace
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4636 Posts
New York
| | 09/05/2007 4:17 AM |
| I own way to may 3.5 books to just leave them behind...And converting I hear will be more trouble than its worth. I'll be sticking with 3.5 Im sure when 4.5 ot 5th edition comes out in 2012 I'll feel even more like I made the right decision. | |
Champion of the Skulk
Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 09/05/2007 4:46 AM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 09/05/2007 4:17 AM I own way to may 3.5 books to just leave them behind...And converting I hear will be more trouble than its worth. I'll be sticking with 3.5 Im sure when 4.5 ot 5th edition comes out in 2012 I'll feel even more like I made the right decision.
Me too. | |
You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
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Master of the
Awesome Sauce
Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6567 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 09/05/2007 7:21 AM |
| I'm switching for sure. The only way I don't switch is if it's a major trainwreck. (which I don't anticipate) | |
Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast
Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
"Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Skyscraper
Sergeant
659 Posts
Montreal
| | 09/05/2007 1:54 PM |
| I'm in the undecided camp. I think it looks good, but looks can be deceiving :) I'll assuredly wait and see the final product before taking a decision. If the product appeals to me, then sure i'll switch. If not, then i'll stick with 3.5, and perhaps house-rule a couple of things into it if 4.0 brings about a few good ideas.
Sky | |
The wise man doubts often. The ignorant, sometimes. The fool, never. | |
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Wolfgang
Underboss
2463 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/07/2007 7:21 AM |
| | 3.5 for me i will not give them a penny more | |
Proud member since March 26 2005
Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN
Joke champion of the epic sage!
Demonweb called shot - Sivak Draconian
Feywild called shot - Sivak Draconian
Number of sets with Sivak Draconian as my called shot - 9
Completed trades: (73)
Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal
Trade References
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Nyarlathotep333
Warrior
255 Posts
Alaska
| | 09/11/2007 12:05 PM |
| I voted:
Yes, probably. I'll have to test it but it already looks good.
but in reality, the choice I'd have liked to see included on the poll would have been:
Yes, eventually I'll switch but I can't afford to shell out almost $100 for the three core books right now and 3.5 works good enough for me till I can.  | |
Demonweb Called Shot: Myconid
Feywild Called Shot: Wolf
Champion of the Zombie Black Dragon
- N333
The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.
- Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
- Conan the Barbarian, on what is best in life
My Website - Be sure to check out my painted minis gallery!
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2346 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 09/11/2007 3:26 PM |
| | yes probably | |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/19/2007 4:01 AM |
| Posted By nyjastul69 on 09/05/2007 4:46 AM Posted By Count Dooku on 09/05/2007 4:17 AM I own way to may 3.5 books to just leave them behind...And converting I hear will be more trouble than its worth. I'll be sticking with 3.5 Im sure when 4.5 ot 5th edition comes out in 2012 I'll feel even more like I made the right decision. Me too.
I doubt it because I'm expecting 5E in 2013. | |
No Hazel, no peace
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
| | 09/19/2007 5:43 AM |
| | 5E more like in 2017 or 2018 (if it ever comes, it all depends on hasbro). But certainly some 4.5 or so in 2013. | |
Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 09/24/2007 10:51 AM |
| I may pick up the core books after they've all come out but will be in no hurry.
When WotC converted to 3.0 I got around to picking up the core books so I could keep playing the adventures received with my Dungeon Magazine subscription. Beyond that I picked up the Realms setting book and two splat books which isn't much.
I actually think 3.5 was a great thing although I didn't have all the supplemental materials. Some of the problems were fixed yet it is still easy enough to convert from 3.0. I don't feel the need for all the supplemental material but the Complete class series just feels better that there 3.0 counterparts and I do like the creature type series started by the Draconomicon.
Because WotC pulled the rights to Dungeon and Dragon from Piazo my subscription will not carry me into 4.0 like it did with 3ed. Too bad for them that the 14 issues I had remaining would definitely have left some incentive to get the 4.0 books. Right now I'm considering the core books once they are all out but seeing the StarWars has gained new life it will probably getting the attention that would have gone to DnD.
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Master of the
Awesome Sauce
Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6567 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 09/24/2007 3:09 PM |
| | My level of switching also depends on the support for SW RPG. We're pretty heavy into that right now, and if it sees ecent support, some of my budget will definitely go there... | |
Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast
Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
"Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/26/2007 5:09 AM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 09/19/2007 5:43 AM
5E more like in 2017 or 2018 (if it ever comes, it all depends on hasbro). But certainly some 4.5 or so in 2013.
You sure about that? They have already said there will be no 4.5 I personally don't believe that but if they are being truthful then 5E will come much sooner than 2017, I'm thinking. | |
No Hazel, no peace
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 09/26/2007 8:25 AM |
| The assurance that there will not be a 4.5 is based on the assumption that 4.0 is a good game with as few problems as possible that has been playtested extensively to get all the kinks out.
From what I understand 3.5 came about because of lack of playtesting for 3.0. Hopefully they're not going to make that mistake this time. I'm cautiously optimistic but it seems as though a lot of the rules are still being written for 4.0 as they're playtesting it. I would be more optimistic if the rules were already written and they were making changes as needed. I have no experience with writing rules or playtesting them or the length of time needed to do either correctly - but I would assume more the more time taken with playtesting the better. | |
Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
| | 09/26/2007 12:35 PM |
| Posted By Ghendar on 09/26/2007 5:09 AM Posted By PaSquall on 09/19/2007 5:43 AM
5E more like in 2017 or 2018 (if it ever comes, it all depends on hasbro). But certainly some 4.5 or so in 2013. You sure about that? They have already said there will be no 4.5 I personally don't believe that but if they are being truthful then 5E will come much sooner than 2017, I'm thinking.
This has probably escaped most of you (and I learned it this summer quite by chance) :
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/mag.dyn/News/11982.html
(You'll probably find this info on various stockmarket related sites too)
That means D&D is here to stay, at least until 2017. I think there are two possibilities :
- either D&D (and everything related) sells well until that year and a new edition will come at this point, to adapt it to the new generation.
- or it doesn't, pen and paper D&D RPG flops and then I think Hasbro may sell the license to... someone.
But I have no doubt that there will be a 4.5 (or something like that) around 2013. Do you really think they can produce successful books almost every month for 10 years ?
And BTW, after what happened at this year's GenCon, do you still trust everything WotC say ? | |
Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/26/2007 2:58 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 09/26/2007 12:35 PM
And BTW, after what happened at this year's GenCon, do you still trust everything WotC say ?
I never trusted everything they said. I take everything they tell me with a grain of salt.
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No Hazel, no peace
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 09/27/2007 4:29 AM |
| | This seems to be only for video games. How does it apply to print products? | |
You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
| | 09/27/2007 10:20 AM |
| If hasbro still want to have a D&D license to sell in 2017, they'll need to have the pen and paper game successfull until at least 2017. If the game flops in between, nobody will ever care to get a D&D license anymore (and this license is a multi-million bucks business for Hasbro. In fact I suspect them to have bought WotC mainly for this...)
Unless they intend to have D&D go 100% digital before 2017, i.e. a 4.5 digital version in 2013... | |
Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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