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thewulf
Skirmisher
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Lord_rock
Underboss
1550 Posts
Portland OR
| | 10/13/2007 3:53 PM |
| What does everyone/anyone make of the "STR +7(19), CON +5 (14)..."
stuff??? and I'm guessing bloodied is a new "condition", how about
"immortal humanoid (devil)"? And skills are likely still around with
"perception +5"...
lots of guessables... no confirmations!
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wicked cool
Underboss
2017 Posts
| | 10/13/2007 6:27 PM |
| | looks like theve pumped up abilites so a 18 is now +7?maybe. all othe creatures modifiers are +5 so its base save was 13? init modifier is also base dex which seems to be even #'s still | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
9947 Posts
United States
| | 10/14/2007 7:01 AM |
| Posted By Lord_rock on 10/13/2007 3:53 PM
What does everyone/anyone make of the "STR +7(19), CON +5 (14)..."
stuff??? and I'm guessing bloodied is a new "condition", how about
"immortal humanoid (devil)"? And skills are likely still around with
"perception +5"...
lots of guessables... no confirmations!
Hard to tell. However, we can hazard some guesses.
Ability....Ability
Score.....Modifier
2-3.........-1
4-5.........+0
6-7.........+1
8-9.........+2
10-11.....+3
12-13.....+4
14-15.....+5
16-17.....+6
18-19.....+7
Or, as has been suggested, the numbers could be one-half the level plus the already-existing modifiers. Either works. If we had another card, from a creature with different scores and a significantly different level, we could tell for sure.
Bloodied looks like half the hit point total, which may replace the moral save for DDM. Once a creature is Bloodied, it may suffer some consequences (lower speed, lower attacks, lower defenses, etc.). Calling it a "condition" makes sense.
Immortal Humanoid (Devil) is fitting. This tells us we have a Mortal/Immortal distinction. Perhaps some spells don't affect immortals, or they have certain resistances, or automatically have higher defenses...
The Perception skill is in Star Wars Saga, and, as I recall, is a blend of Spot, Listen and Search. (Off the top of my head, I don't recall for sure, but that seems roughly right.)
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moonglum
Skirmisher
47 Posts
| | 10/14/2007 7:17 AM |
| What does everyone/anyone make of the "STR +7(19), CON +5 (14)..." stuff???
I think that the bonus might be 1/2 level + 3.5 edition stat bonus, so with an 11 the devil would have a +3, and with a 19 the devil would have a +7, etc. as per the card. This would not be the stat bonus, strictly, but rather its ability to perform on various checks. | |
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XAos
Underboss
2358 Posts
London
| | 10/14/2007 9:01 AM |
| Posted By Lord_rock on 10/13/2007 3:53 PM
What does everyone/anyone make of the "STR +7(19), CON +5 (14)..." stuff??? and I'm guessing bloodied is a new "condition", how about "immortal humanoid (devil)"? And skills are likely still around with "perception +5"...
lots of guessables... no confirmations!
Skills are supoosed to be simplified in D&D-4th. e.g. "Perception" instead of {Spot, Search & Listen as seperate skills}
Not enough clues about "Bloodied" except it occurs at 1/2 HP, so I guess it's some sort of morale condition.
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Underboss
1341 Posts
Minaniuonuma-shi, Japan
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Ghendar
Warlord
10838 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 10/15/2007 4:12 AM |
| Bloodied means he's a member of fight club so don't talk about it.
Anyhoo, I have no idea what to make of those stats. I really hope that a 19 is not a +7 modifier (ugh!) but I'll reserve final judgment until I get the PH. | |
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berus316
Sergeant
621 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 10/15/2007 5:43 AM |
| He also has Spot +10 under the Skills listing.
So I guess skills are still around, and I have no idea what Perception +5 is, if he still has a Spot of +10. Maybe Perception adds to all of the Spot, Listen skills. Who knows... I like what I see so far. The Bloodied condition seems to make some sense. | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1297 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 10/16/2007 3:20 PM |
| It might be stat modifiers for the template, like an elf is +2 Dex and -2 Con?
There used to be odd modifiers for other races in 2e DnD.. Hmm... interesting. Perception sounds like a racial modifier to me as well | |
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