Wraithborne
Commander
3437 Posts
    
West Virginia
 | | 11/22/2007 5:42 AM |
| I didn't know they played Dreamblade on Mount Celestia. I guess I'll just be happy with the angels I already have and my wallet will rest easier with yet another race of minis that I'll never need to buy again.
Here's a link to the article.
http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dramp/20071121&authentic=true
And the pertinent passage:
Second, this set showcases the first of our updates to the look and feel of D&D monsters. Now, when a monster looks just great, we've left it alone. But in cases where we felt we could improve the look of a monster, we've taken this opportunity to do so. Our new look for angels, for example, debuts in this set with the Angel of Vengeance. It's otherworldly, looks powerful, and has just the right mix of awe-inspiring and creepy to better define these servants of the gods.
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XAos
Underboss
2375 Posts
London
| | 11/22/2007 7:24 AM |
| Someone at WotC R&D must think these "dreamblade" style angels look cool...
Personally I think it looks like the artist attempted to disguise a lack of skill or competance, by bluring the appearance of the figure.
And if WotC check back on sales of dreamblade they might guess that a lot of their customers don't like this style of "art".
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berus316
Sergeant
621 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 11/22/2007 10:03 AM |
| I am indifferent about the new angel. It might be used at some point, but probably not.
This has been the case for plenty of minis in the past, so I am not particularily concerned. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10639 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 11/24/2007 11:43 AM |
| | Sorry but I'll be sticking with the Reaper Angels from now on. They may not have pretty clear plastic. but at least they don't look like an escapee from a surrealist painting. | |
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wicked cool
Underboss
2033 Posts
| | 11/26/2007 5:46 AM |
| | i dont believe them.i still believe its a dreamblade min and we get the old angels the next time around | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5571 Posts
| | 11/26/2007 1:52 PM |
| | Yeh, I'll throw in my dischorde. Changing the concept of angels sucks about as much as making tieflings core (which, imo, is a whole bunch). Looks like I'm going to be writing a whole lot of homebrew campaigns and fluff in the future - assuming I convert. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4676 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 11/26/2007 9:48 PM |
| Since I don't use many (well, any really) good-aligned outsiders in my campaigns, I consider the Angel redesign a good thing. My wallet is happy since I can reduce my miniatures purchases even further.  | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1303 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 11/27/2007 8:11 AM |
| | the angel of vengeance isn't an angel, it's a phantom creature I can use as an evil encounter. | |
Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6519 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 11/27/2007 1:13 PM |
| I'm waiting to see the whole picture...
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10099 Posts
United States
| | 12/04/2007 9:30 AM |
| I'm a little trapped in the Judeo-Christian, Greco-Roman, Milton-inspired notion of angels too. But, frankly, I don't dislike the Angel of Vengeance, and I don't mind them taking some Dreamblade-like directions with some of the minis. I'm sure I'll be up in arms about something eventually though.
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Zyla
Underboss
1181 Posts
| | 12/06/2007 11:19 PM |
| | WizKids had the look of the new angles long before Dream Blade was even created, take a look at the Solonavi in Mage knight and compare them to the Angle of Vengeance | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10639 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 12/07/2007 3:42 PM |
| | See I like the Solonavi. Their warriors have that interesting energy slug face going. I thought the solonavi in turned look like something out of one of the Final Fantasy games.
Anyways, if Wotc made a Solonavi pc or npc race I'd be cool with that. Taking angels and making them look decidly non-angelic is not cool with me. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3437 Posts
West Virginia
| | 12/08/2007 7:39 PM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 12/07/2007 3:42 PM
See I like the Solonavi. Their warriors have that interesting energy slug face going. I thought the solonavi in turned look like something out of one of the Final Fantasy games. Anyways, if Wotc made a Solonavi pc or npc race I'd be cool with that. Taking angels and making them look decidly non-angelic is not cool with me.
I don't know anything about Mage Knight, but I couldn't agree with the last statement more. I think they achieved more of a robotic look than an ethereal one. The lack of a face reminds me of the faceless robot zombie from an old episode of Scooby Doo that walked around dragging one of it's feet saying, "Coin....coin!" over and over.
Hmm....perhaps it's a new Warforged Angel. | |
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minatoman38
Underboss
1341 Posts
Minaniuonuma-shi, Japan
| | 12/10/2007 8:56 PM |
| I really like the Angel of Vengeance. At least how it should look anyway. I think the pose is a little flat but the idea is great. I've always wondered why in the multi-racial universe of D&D angels are all either human, elf, or beast shaped. Where are the gnome, dwarf, halfling, etc Solars and so forth. Or were those gods served by human-like angels. The angel of vengeance has a true otherworldly look to it and a DM can inform players that the "aspect of the otherworldly being before you resembles whatever the hero expects a divine agent to look like". | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6519 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 12/12/2007 5:17 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 12/08/2007 7:39 PM Posted By Cthulhufnord on 12/07/2007 3:42 PM
See I like the Solonavi. Their warriors have that interesting energy slug face going. I thought the solonavi in turned look like something out of one of the Final Fantasy games. Anyways, if Wotc made a Solonavi pc or npc race I'd be cool with that. Taking angels and making them look decidly non-angelic is not cool with me. I don't know anything about Mage Knight, but I couldn't agree with the last statement more. I think they achieved more of a robotic look than an ethereal one. The lack of a face reminds me of the faceless robot zombie from an old episode of Scooby Doo that walked around dragging one of it's feet saying, "Coin....coin!" over and over. Hmm....perhaps it's a new Warforged Angel.
Warforged need a heaven and a deity too...
Makes me wonder: If deity's are made by faith (see decree of AO) then, if enough Warforged believe, could they make a construct Deity? See the legend of Tchazzar for more reference...
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Sean-Khan
Commander
2700 Posts
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord
5571 Posts
| | 01/10/2008 8:00 AM |
| | That... looks... awesome... are they uncommon? | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5571 Posts
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Knight of the
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Thenameless
Warlord
8627 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 01/10/2008 1:37 PM |
| Sean-Khan, that's a very nice looking angel mini - about as close to canon as they come.
But, back on topic. I'm in the minority because I actually like the look of the Angel of Vengeance. I like the older style celestials too, so either way, I'll be happy. | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6519 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 01/10/2008 2:47 PM |
| I like the dreamblade fig (except for it's tendency to break off at the ankle)
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