Posted By wicked cool on 12/21/2007 6:20 PM
its still better than nappy time in the middle of a dungeon.

Posted By Vrecknidj on 12/25/2007 5:24 PM
A fighter can swing a sword on a per encounter basis. I've never really liked the artificial limits of memorized spells anyway...

Dave

Posted By kyrin on 12/26/2007 8:23 AM

Whoa, Dave, I'd hate to play a fighter in your campaign.  We have that as an "at will" ability here.  :-)

JIM
aka kyrin

Posted By ransom on 01/02/2008 9:33 AM
I am on the fence for now. The magic system has need an update since 2nd ediiton---everyone hates the fire and forget system that has been in use. I think the initial comment was slanted heavily toward the negative---look at it in a more positive example--when playing the new "epic level" characters

Ftr---In the middle of orc compound, using cleave, great cleave, multiple attacks per round, and feats to get multiple attacks of opportunity---wades through the orc horde probably "dispatching" 3-6 per round

Wiz---Example 1--Shruggs shoulders and tells everyone in the party that all of the good spells were used in getting into the compound---Fires off his last magic missile and severly wounds an orc due to a bad die roll---Then thinks about drawing out his dagger

Wiz---Example 2---Uses his "per encounter" ability and keeps an even pace with the fighter

When gaming in large groups, have you ever noticed that the "caster" players are usually much less involved after the 2nd encounter--While the fighter players are telling everyone to go just one more---cause we got potions---

Changes are needed---let's see how well they work

Posted By nyjastul69 on 01/02/2008 9:44 AM
Not everyone hates Vancian magic.

Posted By ransom on 01/02/2008 9:33 AM
I am on the fence for now. The magic system has need an update since 2nd ediiton---everyone hates the fire and forget system that has been in use.

Posted By kyrin on 01/02/2008 11:33 AM

Yeppers, that why WotC sold so many copies of 3.0 and 3.5 -- haters of Vancian Spellcasting were buying those books to burn them in great bonfires...

Posted By ransom on 01/04/2008 3:45 AM
If you are a fan of Vancian magic, then do you not allow the Sorcerer class into your campaign. To me, this class has already broken the 3.5 rules anyway. Having the Sorcerer is just like having the per encounter ability anyway.

Posted By Wuzzard on 01/08/2008 3:33 PM
What really sucks as a player is not having any interesting options. Having all your 'power' used up is no fun. Even a plain fighter is a much more interesting character if he has options. Being the guy that just rolls to hit each round is not so interesting, as is the spell caster that basically has to sit out because he has no more useful spells.

I'm playing a Rebalanced Paladin right now and the per-encounter smiting is what makes the character. Each round of combat I have the option to smite (until I use them up), attack normally, lay on hands, turn undead or cast a spell. Spells are still too cumbersome because they must be planned out. I rarely get to make use of any of them. At best one might come in handy per play session. I would much rather them be turned into more useful per encounter abilities, and then I'd have more real options.

Posted By Lady-Bast on 01/11/2008 4:06 PM
The at will powers that allow the wizard to cast spell after spell every round are what really get me. Why in the world would an elven wizard carry that longbow he is proficient in when he can cast magic missle or something similiar each and every round and save his carrying capacity for all of those pretty gold coins that they can pick up?

Posted By doubtofbuddha on 01/11/2008 7:12 AM

Also I am fairly young (twenty-eight), and optimist, and pretty open to new ideas and concepts. So that may influence me to be more willing to accept the changes that they are introducing and suggesting.