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MarioCleanstuff Warrior
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 San Diego, CA
 | | 05/25/2008 7:21 AM |
| So, there I was, paging through Keep on the Shadowfell. I stumbled upon an entry for the G-Cube, and something struck me as odd.
Translucent: The Gelatinous Cube is invisible until seen.
There was more to it than that, including a Perception DC to see it, but think about it. "Invisible until seen."
How do you see that which is invisible? How does it lose its invisibility once somebody sees it? This paradox provided quite a bit of amusement for me. | | Completed trades: Brenigin, desiderata, HockeyFan, MikeyChraal, Raland, GuJiaXian | |
| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
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 | |  Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5104 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 05/25/2008 10:46 AM |
| Quite the conundrum.
It makes sense, though. Most transparent objects are not invisible, but function as such until they are pointed out/noticed. For example, birds have a tendency to try and fly through windowpanes. The windowpanes are not invisible, but the birds certainly aren't aware of their existence until they smack into them. An adventurer looking down a corridor in a dimly-lit dungeon is hardly likely to notice that the edges of the hallway are a bit fuzzy (unless they're Perceptive) and might, like the birds, smack into the side before realizing there's something there.
Once you've noticed the 10 foot moving jell-O it's hard to see how you could have missed seeing it in the first place. Unfortunately, you didn't notice it until it had smacked you upside the head  | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
| wicked cool Underboss
 2130 Posts




 | | 05/26/2008 6:40 AM |
| | similiar to cobweb strands. invisilbe until u walk into them. | | The ROCK layeth the smacketh down. Long live Farscape Vindicated-CHAMPION of the INTELLECT DEVOURER i will change my avatar when martin completes dances with dragons | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 05/28/2008 11:21 AM |
| Invisible until seen. Hilarious.
Also, incorporeal until touched, and silent until heard.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
| xuthal Sergeant
 649 Posts



 Boulder, CO
 | | 05/28/2008 4:00 PM |
| This reminds me of the description of the G-Cube in the old 1e module Bone Hill. The cube occupied a hallway, which the DM described as "hazy" due to the warping of light as it passed through the cube. The lead members of our party proceeded to walk right into it...
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| MarioCleanstuff Warrior
 325 Posts



 San Diego, CA
 | | 05/28/2008 10:53 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/28/2008 11:21 AM Invisible until seen. Hilarious.
Also, incorporeal until touched, and silent until heard.
Don't forget "invincible until damaged." | | Completed trades: Brenigin, desiderata, HockeyFan, MikeyChraal, Raland, GuJiaXian | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7675 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 05/29/2008 9:57 AM |
| Posted By xuthal on 05/28/2008 4:00 PM This reminds me of the description of the G-Cube in the old 1e module Bone Hill. The cube occupied a hallway, which the DM described as "hazy" due to the warping of light as it passed through the cube. The lead members of our party proceeded to walk right into it...
SGB
[insert slurping sound here]
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
| GuJiaXian Sergeant
 656 Posts



 Roswell, GA
 | | 05/31/2008 10:25 AM |
| | "Invisible until seen" makes perfect sense here, since "invisible" is a keyword, a specific condition. I'm not bothered a whit by the wording, and I'm an editor by profession. | | "Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
| MarioCleanstuff Warrior
 325 Posts



 San Diego, CA
 | | 05/31/2008 11:48 AM |
| | I never said it was incorrect or anything. I just think "invisible until seen" sounds funny. Taking it out of context makes it quite paradoxical. | | Completed trades: Brenigin, desiderata, HockeyFan, MikeyChraal, Raland, GuJiaXian | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7675 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 05/31/2008 7:38 PM |
| Agreed, it's fine in the context. But out of context, it can be pretty funny.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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