stephengroy
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Tempe AZ Beeyotch
 | | 06/08/2008 9:33 AM |
| I love the Shadowfell product.
I like the presentation with the folder, the maps, the booklets.
I have however experienced some smearing, as others have mentioned.
I saw the PDFs of the Core books, and was unimpressed.
I mentioned I'd not purchase them.
I loved Into the ShadowHaunt.
I had some Store Credit, and took home the Monster Manual 4E.
Does that make me a Bad Person?
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warchanter
Sergeant
391 Posts
Italy
| | 06/08/2008 9:48 AM |
| Posted By stephengroy on 06/08/2008 9:33 AM
Does that make me a Bad Person?
Oh yes, you are evil incarnate. Begone, demon!
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
656 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 06/08/2008 12:02 PM |
| Stephen, you crack me up. I really liked the artwork in the 4e MM, though the handful of pieces that were recycled from the 3.5 MM were rather disappointing.
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vanrulzz
Commander
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| | 06/08/2008 12:09 PM |
| | yeah, recycled pictures = FAIL. but there weren't too many, and seeing how everyhting has an illustration now i can see the need for it. | | | |
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Sean-Khan
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 06/08/2008 11:35 PM |
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Posted By Sean-Khan on 06/08/2008 11:01 PM
I guess that if you're really starting to play you'll want to buy all the core books (so much more handy & comfortable), but otherwise I don't see any reason you should.
I don't mind a few recycled images as there isn't much, but I'm worried about that smearing... How bad is it? How easily does it happen, how bad it makes the text/images? I wonder what will happen if you happen to pour your soda on the book... Is the page content gone instead of page just being damaged. I haven't had time to find out yet, but trust me, I will. I've been gaming for years and I have seen a definite decrease in quality, from the miniatures to the books. My AD&D books that's 25 years old is still in one piece whereas one of my 3.5 PHBs is missing the front cover.
I haven't had time to run the 4e books through the abuse test yet, but I will. Trust me, I will.
As for recycled pics, most I like......... The Dryad though? Why isn't it a naked girl? Why has it gone from elvish looking to a plant? And it's type is now plant too......
And finally, page 36 of the PHB, the female dwarf has a 5 o clock shadow lurking about. Female dwarves were bearded ladies back then, remember Gimli? ;)
Seriously though, the pictures are great and their recycled pictures are fine too. All except for a few discrepancies from original lore, myth, and the earlier editions of DnD. I love the Blue and Dragon by far the most of all the other pictures... Ok, the Orcs too. :)
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Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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Cthulhufnord
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| | 06/08/2008 11:41 PM |
| I noticed the Wyrm mage thing as recycled from Call of Cthulhu.  | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 06/09/2008 12:08 AM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 06/08/2008 11:41 PM I noticed the Wyrm mage thing as recycled from Call of Cthulhu.
From dragons to reptiles... And also making them rather potent, 1d8+4 damage per hit? Ouch...
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Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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Wolfgang
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5782 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/09/2008 4:17 AM |
| Does that make me a Bad Person?
yes, yes it does | |
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
656 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 06/09/2008 5:37 AM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 06/08/2008 11:41 PM I noticed the Wyrm mage thing as recycled from Call of Cthulhu. 
Actually, it's the 4e version of the 3.5 worm that walks (from the ELH). That is one case where I DO wish they'd used the older artwork.
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 06/09/2008 10:29 AM |
| Nah, SG, it doesn't make you bad.
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Cthulhufnord
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Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 06/09/2008 11:42 AM |
| Which is taken from Call of Cthulhu. 
Posted By GuJiaXian on 06/09/2008 5:37 AM Posted By Cthulhufnord on 06/08/2008 11:41 PM I noticed the Wyrm mage thing as recycled from Call of Cthulhu. Actually, it's the 4e version of the 3.5 worm that walks (from the ELH). That is one case where I DO wish they'd used the older artwork.
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GuJiaXian
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656 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 06/09/2008 12:00 PM |
| | Yeah, yeah... | |
"Clearly a case of too many hunchbacks and not enough mad scientists..." | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1418 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/10/2008 1:22 AM |
| They've also invalidated the Blue Dragon Lair map too...unless that's beach sand
*shudders* | |
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vanrulzz
Commander
2563 Posts
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| | 06/15/2008 9:48 PM |
| Posted By stephengroy on 06/10/2008 1:22 AM
They've also invalidated the Blue Dragon Lair map too...unless that's beach sand
*shudders*
not if you houserule. people seem to forget that a lot.
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