Sean-Khan
Commander
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| Has anyone yet done any comparative list about what's missing from 4E MM compared to 3.5 MM? Or things that are really different...
What I've already missed when searching is:
-Centaur
-Cockatrice
-Metallic Dragons
-Clay & Iron Golem
-Erinyes is gone, Succubus Devil
-Dryad is so different... Nymphs, Pixies, Sprites etc. gone
-Elementals as we knew them are gone; There's Archons and strange Dual-elementals...
And what's significantly different
- Balor's huge; Not sure yet if it's become much more powerful
- Lamia's totally different, probably much stronger too.
My mind is still so set on 3.5 bestiary and I'm gm'ing 3E based campaign, so it would be great to have some kind of list of stuff that isn't in MM so it doesn't come by surprise in the middle of the game...
Any favourites in new (in basic MM) creatures?
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
325 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 06/16/2008 8:05 AM |
| Don't forget Stone and Cloud Giants. They got the axe, too.
And how could you forget Rust Monsters?
As for new favorites... I don't see very many that I don't recognize as reimaginings of monsters from 3.5 sourcebooks. One that I don't recognize, however, are the Swordwings, and I rather like them.
Humans being in the MM is also a very good thing.
I also like the elemental Titans, the Kruthiks, the Dracoliches, Eye of Flame Beholders, the Archons, Helmed Horrors, Hooked Horrors, and several other things.
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Zoons
Underboss
1067 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 9:13 AM |
| | Most glaring is the missing Blink Dog. Its NOT D&D without them. | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 9:41 AM |
| | Does anyone know when abouts WotC will post the 4e galleries? | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/16/2008 11:04 AM |
| | Just noticed a major change. Minotaurs now default to medium size (only minotaur savages are large). I wonder what impact that will have on DDM. | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 11:10 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/16/2008 11:04 AM
Just noticed a major change. Minotaurs now default to medium size (only minotaur savages are large). I wonder what impact that will have on DDM.
Hopefully we will get a Uc med minotaur soon! Hopefully he will be a big med (like a Nothic or Massassi Sith Mutant). | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Teflon Jeff
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7908 Posts
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| | 06/16/2008 11:17 AM |
| Posted By Username on 06/16/2008 11:10 AM Posted By zenthrus on 06/16/2008 11:04 AM
Just noticed a major change. Minotaurs now default to medium size (only minotaur savages are large). I wonder what impact that will have on DDM. Hopefully we will get a Uc med minotaur soon! Hopefully he will be a big med (like a Nothic or Massassi Sith Mutant).
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Sean-Khan
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5692 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 12:24 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/16/2008 11:17 AM Posted By Username on 06/16/2008 11:10 AM Posted By zenthrus on 06/16/2008 11:04 AM
Just noticed a major change. Minotaurs now default to medium size (only minotaur savages are large). I wonder what impact that will have on DDM. Hopefully we will get a Uc med minotaur soon! Hopefully he will be a big med (like a Nothic or Massassi Sith Mutant). That would be cool. I only have so many Young Minotaurs...
I was thinking about stock up on those (only have 2 and 1 from the Basic Game 2). Now, I will see what comes and trade off my extra AR one. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 12:32 PM |
| Warning spoiler...
If the RPG stats come on the cards still, you'll get the RPG for large storm giant. | |
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vanrulzz
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| | 06/16/2008 5:31 PM |
| | GASP! Thx greyhaze | | | |
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vanrulzz
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| | 06/16/2008 5:34 PM |
| Posted By Zoons on 06/16/2008 9:13 AM
Most glaring is the missing Blink Dog. Its NOT D&D without them.
not that you would be particularly biased or anything...
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Sean-Khan
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javasquirrel
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 6:17 AM |
| | I wish that they had put the Poison Dusk Lizardfolk in, since they included Blackscale. Though I have to admit it's nice to see the Phoenix get some love again and show up in the first MM. | |
If I kill off a 5th level party with only 3 kobolds that were based off Spartans, have I failed or succeeded at my job as a DM? | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 6:47 AM |
| Posted By javasquirrel on 06/17/2008 6:17 AM
I wish that they had put the Poison Dusk Lizardfolk in, since they included Blackscale. Perhaps the lizardfolk with the blow darts is taking the PDL's place. I don't remember it's size though, but I'd love to get that one as a mini. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 06/17/2008 7:24 AM |
| | I don't see the mighty tarrasque or Solar. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 7:26 AM |
| | Angels have all been converted to those alien looking ghostly things, so Solars probably don't exist. | |
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javasquirrel
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 7:39 AM |
| | Tarrasque is there on page 13 under Abominations. It took me awhile to get use to the new one, but in the end after reading his stats over and over again and seeing how he worked I slowly started to like it. It's not as.....Overpowered, I guess is what I want to say, but It is not a push over either. | |
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Teflon Jeff
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7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 06/17/2008 9:03 AM |
| I like the new Tarrasque.
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/17/2008 10:17 AM |
| Poison Dusk seem to have gotten the axe for now. The Greenscale Darter is medium. Poison Dusk are small.
I would love to see the Greenscale Darter and Greenscale Marsh Mystic as DDM sculpts in the near future, though. Excellent artwork  | |
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javasquirrel
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 11:00 AM |
| | The Mystic would be awesome, I would also like more Dinosaurs(Behemoths) so I can have my lizardfolk riding them into battle....that and the Warhammer Lizardman Warrior on the Carnosaur is always imposing. | |
If I kill off a 5th level party with only 3 kobolds that were based off Spartans, have I failed or succeeded at my job as a DM? | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 11:26 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/17/2008 10:17 AM I would love to see the Greenscale Darter and Greenscale Marsh Mystic as DDM sculpts in the near future, though. Excellent artwork | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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