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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
    
 | | 06/24/2008 7:19 AM |
| Well, I made it to level 2 last night and finally got my first utility spell, I say the singular, cause you can only use one of the two you do get each day. I feel much better. My magic item was a darkleaf robe +1. Having some defensive capabilities is a huge relief, I hated only being able to blast things.
I look forward to being able to diversify in the coming levels, I really feel like the massive limitations are behind me for now. | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Demon Web, Darkenbeast in Feywild. | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
2714 Posts
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 06/24/2008 10:26 AM |
| | I'd feel better as a player to get a utility spell at level 1. I don't know if it screws up the power curve or not, but I hated having only blasting variation spells to choose from - it felt really limited, like I wasn't allowed to build my character with personality. | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Demon Web, Darkenbeast in Feywild. | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
60 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 06/24/2008 11:47 AM |
| | Of course there's a point to starting off first level! Most of the at will powers have special effects that are defensive in a roundabout way. The Ray of Frost Spell Slows an enemy for 1 round--that means they can only get two squares closer to you. You could keep a big enemy away from you almost indefinately, if you hit often enough. And the Thunderweave spell is awesome for that reason, too! If you are surrounded by enemies, you can blast a bunch of them back, possibly enough for the defenders to intercede, or even for you to be able to run away w/o recourse. Ray of Enfeeblement is a great spell nail the big bad guy with so he doesn't want to use his buff attack right away. And Most of the Daily's have great uses as well--Sleep, while only having a less than 25% chance of knocking someone out, can hamper a large amount of enemies--great for retreats, or even just so the party can repositiont hemselves into better positions for the battle. | | | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 06/24/2008 11:56 AM |
| | I've used all of those spells, other than tactical positioning, it felt like little in the options department. | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Demon Web, Darkenbeast in Feywild. | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
60 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 06/24/2008 12:18 PM |
| | Well, wizards do not have a plethora of abilities to choose from initally, so yes, there will always be some overlap. Wizards do get more spells now--they just are a smidgeon more limited in what they can choose. i was merely making the point that being a controller--i.e., tactical combat--is inherently defensive. | | | |
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Puggins
Sergeant
622 Posts
| | 06/24/2008 2:35 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/24/2008 10:26 AM
I'd feel better as a player to get a utility spell at level 1. I don't know if it screws up the power curve or not, but I hated having only blasting variation spells to choose from - it felt really limited, like I wasn't allowed to build my character with personality.
I don't see how switching the Level 1 Dailies and the level 2 Utilities would unbalance the game, especially since most utilities ARE dailies. that might make an interesting variant.
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javasquirrel
Skirmisher
28 Posts
| | 06/25/2008 2:58 PM |
| | I am hoping that they will release a Spells book, like the Martial handbook coming out, that opens up alot more possiblities for starting off. As much as I enjoy 4th ed so far, I will be happy when the next couple books open up more options. | |
If I kill off a 5th level party with only 3 kobolds that were based off Spartans, have I failed or succeeded at my job as a DM? | |
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