SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
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Utah
 | | 08/07/2008 10:16 AM |
| Thanks all for the help with the character Creation Resources. I decided to make a Hafling Rogue. Please critique the Rogue and feel free to offer some advice and comments. This Rogue will take place in the Living Forgotten Realms setting some I am undecided on which land to make him from, but I have narrowed it down to two. (East Rift or Aglarond)
Samuel Kenyan (Gibblets) -Artful Dodger
Race: Hafling
Table Array:
Str: 11
Con: 10
Dex: 18 (20)
Int: 8
Wis: 10
Cha: 14 (16)
At Will Powers:
Sly FLourish
Encounter Exploits:
Positioning Strike
Daily Exploits:
Blinding Barrage
Skills: Stealth, Thievery, Acrobatics, Bluff, 3 of the following depending on where I am from - Perception, Dungeoneering, Streetwise, or Insight
Feat: Leaning towards "Backstabber," although I like "Nimble Blade" or "Two Weapon Fighting."
Any insight from you pros out there to help me finish my character would be great!
-Thanks in adavance.
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zenthrus
Warlord
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SLC, UT
| | 08/07/2008 10:23 AM |
| I'd be a little nervous about having no Str or Con. Since Str/Con govern your Fortitude defense score you need at least one of those to have something in it. Generally, Con is the wiser choice since that bumps up HP and healing surges. Having a maxed-out Dex score will be useful at the Heroic Tier but by Paragon time the difference of +1 becomes a less serious advantage. I'd lower Dex to 16 (still going to be 18 after racials) and bump up Con as much as you can with the saved points.
Powers seem decent since you've got mobility and damage. Good combo for a Rogue [Big Grin] | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
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Utah
| | 08/07/2008 10:43 AM |
| Good Suggestion!
So something like this:
Str: 12
Con: 14
Dex: 16 (18)
Int: 8
Wis: 11
Cha: 14 (16)
Also, should I just stick with backstabber or is nimble blade and two weapon fighting good alternatives? I am coming from no real RP experience. | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
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San Diego, CA
| | 08/07/2008 1:53 PM |
| It kind of depends on what style you want to go for. Backstabber is great for more damage, but techincally so is nimble blade, since it'd let you hit more often than not. Two Weapon Fighting is actually not that great sunless you take both feats; you'll get more damage, Ironically, out of Weapon Focus since it applies to all of your attacks.
If you want to be more defensive, Go with the Halfling Agility feat that helps your racial power.
For offensive, actually it may not be a bad idea to go for the Proficency feat with a Rapier. Your average damage per attack woould jump up by a point on average, but realize that with powers that do multiple die of damage, that quickly becomes a lot of extra damage.
It lookks like you may be a bit more ranged oriented (since you chose Blinding barrage). If you're going with the shiruken (which is a good idea, since it has the best attack bonus and the best damage out of all the weapons the rogue gets), then you may want to consider Far Throw, so you can attack from farther away, or Quick Draw, so you can whip them out faster. plus, the +2 feat bonus to initiative is never a bad thing.
Depending on how you want the flavor of the character to go, Multiclassing into Ranger isn't a bad idea. The Hunter's quarry benefit is only once per encounter, BUT an extra d6 of damage is nothing to sneeze at! Plus, if you go the full route, Ranger and Rogue powers mix well together, though with your strength, it would only really work with the Archer Aspect. but you could get the Hunter's Quarry bonus regardless. That ain't never a bad thing ;-) | | | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/07/2008 1:55 PM |
| | Also, don't forget you get a second at will Power | | | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
593 Posts
Utah
| | 08/07/2008 2:40 PM |
| | I like the idea of Blinding my opponent and then coming in for the kill with backstab per se (or something that can get me the most damage???). I didnt realize I got another at will power, maybe I will add Piercing Strike? | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/07/2008 3:44 PM |
| | Pierching Strike isn't bad. Sly Flourish would be your big damage dealer--you'd get to add weapon + dex + Cha mod. That'd be an additional +3 damage per shot, AND it works with your missile weapons, too. | | | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/07/2008 3:46 PM |
| | If you take sly flourish, see if it's possible to get your Cha to 16 (18 w/ racial) anotehr +1 dmg per shot ain't a bad idea, and it'd give you +1 AC vs. AOA's, and a host of other benefits, as well | | | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
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San Diego, CA
| | 08/07/2008 3:49 PM |
| | Other than Athletics, there's really no reason to have a str acore above 8 for that character :-) | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 08/07/2008 4:08 PM |
| Looking good. How powered out is the party/encounters?
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
593 Posts
Utah
| | 08/08/2008 7:17 AM |
| Hmmm, good suggestions this is very helpful; I am a fan of trying to munchkin my character. Sly FLourish will be my main at Will power what is a good second choice? I think I will lower the strength and constitution to boost the charisma. Maybe try this:
Str: 11
Con: 12
Dex: 16 (18)
Int: 8
Wis: 11
Cha: 16 (18)
Teflon, I only know of one other party member -Dragonborn Paladin. I plan to get my feet wet at Gencon so we may have some strangers playing with us. | |
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/08/2008 8:53 AM |
| Looks good, but you don't really need str; it may not be a bad idea to bump the con up more--it'd help Fort & healing surges.
For a second at will power, I liked the first choice; Deft Strike :-) | | | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
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Utah
| | 08/08/2008 9:20 AM |
| | I am using the table array and so there really isnt another option. I suppose I could try the 22 point buy but it seems to give you less. | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
593 Posts
Utah
| | 08/08/2008 9:31 AM |
| Am I allowed to go under 10 in two stat areas? if so I might do this:
Str: 9
Con: 14
Dex: 16 (18)
Int: 8
Wis: 10
Cha: 16 (18)
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XAos
Underboss
2413 Posts
London
| | 08/08/2008 9:34 AM |
| Posted By SneakyJoeKDB on 08/08/2008 7:17 AM
Maybe try this:
Str: 11
Con: 12
Dex: 16 (18)
Int: 8
Wis: 11
Cha: 16 (18)
I agree that Dex:18 & Char:18 are the core stats for a halfling Rogue.
Not sure why you want Wis:11. I'd use the spare point to get Con:13 or Str:12.
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/08/2008 10:32 AM |
| | Well, the Wisdom would help certain skills like Perception once you reach paragon tier, but yeah, a +1 isn't make or break a that point. | | | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
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Utah
| | 08/08/2008 12:24 PM |
| | Can you go under 10 for 2 stats? | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 08/08/2008 1:02 PM |
| Posted By SneakyJoeKDB on 08/08/2008 12:24 PM
Can you go under 10 for 2 stats? Nope.
Base stats are 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 8.
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 08/08/2008 1:30 PM |
| depends on the build option you choose.
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