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02/25/2006 9:40 AM  

  • More outdoor maps coming soon; forest map in FL3

  • War Drums ended up with four warforged because some other concepts didn't work out

  • Wemic has more parts and more paint that the Girallon, which makes him a Rare

  • Some Dragonlance and Ravenloft minis are in the plans

  • Twig Blight is coming, but not for a few more months

  • Clear plastic is in WDQ

  • Art director determines set color palette based on proposed minis

  • WotC coordinating actions with Paizo to bring minis related to Dragon and Dungeon (possible Spawn of Kyuss)

  • No medium Wargrider any time soon

  • No aquatic maps any time soon

  • Future Icons depending on success of GBD and CRD

  • Uncommon giants in 2006


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02/25/2006 9:43 AM  
Thanks ... for those of us that for some reason can't get to the chat, this is great info ...

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02/25/2006 9:45 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden

Thanks ... for those of us that for some reason can't get to the chat, this is great info ...



I concur. There's a lot of good news there.

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02/25/2006 9:49 AM  
Great news!

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02/25/2006 9:50 AM  
Shoe will be back later to answer more questions.

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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 9:52 AM  
Oh yeah, I forgot one: Gelatinous Cube is not quite there yet, even though we'll be seeing clear plastic soon.

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Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 9:55 AM  
And a Great Time was had by all!

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02/25/2006 10:31 AM  
Also, flame on CRD is clear plastic, Shoe said.

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02/25/2006 10:31 AM  
The OPs at the irc channel have logged everything; we will be posting later on the transcribe [:D]

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02/25/2006 10:31 AM  
Also, my question as to wether or not we will see themed boxed sets like the Endor set was answered with:

"No annonced plans at this time"


So an unofficial yes I guess.

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02/25/2006 10:34 AM  
Thats some bright future too the minis.. Great info thanks!

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02/25/2006 10:37 AM  
And it was said that the Large Bronze is not the start of the "Upgraded Dragons"

When asked about past dragons Shoe said that they would not re-release updated stat cards, but if a dragon were to be redone (ala Loyal Earth Elemental) then it would see the upgrade.

Could mean some of the Draongs that have varying age categories in the same Size could be on the way.

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02/25/2006 10:40 AM  
Translucent plastic in WotDQ, not "clear"... At least, translucent is what I asked about and it was confirmed. No G-Cube yet, though!

"It's an automatic robot, based on science."

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02/25/2006 10:42 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Mindtrick

Also, my question as to wether or not we will see themed boxed sets like the Endor set was answered with:

"No annonced plans at this time"


So an unofficial yes I guess.



Yes, and I think he put a smiley after it... so I definitely think that it is coming.

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02/25/2006 11:03 AM  
I was very happy to read that this was not an example of the dragon upgrade program.


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02/25/2006 11:14 AM  
Great news all around....

Everyone must now buy a CRD and GBD to keep the line going!!!

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02/25/2006 11:18 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
  • Wemic has more parts and more paint that the Girallon, which makes him a Rare

This is a pity. I would have gotten a lot more use out of a bunch of Wemics than I would a bunch of Girallons.
quote:
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  • WotC coordinating actions with Paizo to bring minis related to Dragon and Dungeon (possible Spawn of Kyuss)

This is great news! Dungeon and Dragon magazines have some wonderful artwork, and equally good content. I hope we'll see the "iconics" that Dragon magazine have been using as hero characters in their artwork transformed into miniatures!


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02/25/2006 11:39 AM  
quote:
Wemic has more parts and more paint that the Girallon, which makes him a Rare

Thats cool with me. I can get more use out of a bunch of Girallons than with a bunch of Wemmics. ;)

Believe it or not I didnt ask about the Twig Blights :)

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02/25/2006 11:42 AM  
Any news about common blink dogs?

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02/25/2006 11:45 AM  
What a fantastic day! Jason Buhlman (Managing Editor of Dragon Magazine) briefly stopped by, and we're currently talking with Jesse Decker, Development Manager of D&D and DDM. More info later.

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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 12:06 PM  
Quick update from Jesse Decker:


  • There are no external pressures on R&D as to the type of minis they want to make

  • There will be DDM scenario packs later this year with free alternative scenarios posted on the web

  • There are two special promos in the works

  • One environmental book is in the works for 2006, and one for 2007. Neither is about forests



With us in chat right now is Ian Richards, Head of Organized Play for Minis and the RPGA

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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set
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02/25/2006 12:10 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by A Can of the Cave Beer

And a Great Time was had by all!



Yeah, almost like being there........................almost

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02/25/2006 12:27 PM  
yay! :)

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02/25/2006 12:40 PM  
Thank you very much for the summary. I've been unable to get into the chat so this is great for me.

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02/25/2006 12:43 PM  
Summary from Ian Richards:


  • Epic Drizzt card coming soon... in a retailer kit near you

  • Additional maps will be available for championships, but there's not going to be one new map per month

  • Epic cards are designed 9-12 months in advance

  • Future championship prizes may include Gargantuan/Colossal minis

  • WotC is currently not officially supporting the European DDM championship, but this may change

  • WotC wants player input about the nature of future DDM prizes, so post away on their message board


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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 12:50 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael


  • Epic Drizzt card coming soon... in a retailer kit near you

  • Additional maps will be available for championships, but there's not going to be one new map per month

  • Epic cards are designed 9-12 months in advance

  • Future championship prizes may include Gargantuan/Colossal minis

  • WotC is currently not officially supporting the European DDM championship, but this may change

  • WotC wants player input about the nature of future DDM prizes, so post away on their message board



Drizzt = cool, prizes = cool, WotC wants player input = cool.

Cool.

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02/25/2006 12:53 PM  
What do you mean by additional maps? Maps released specifically for the championships that were not used before the Championship?

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02/25/2006 1:01 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden

What do you mean by additional maps? Maps released specifically for the championships that were not used before the Championship?


Yes.

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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 1:19 PM  
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden

What do you mean by additional maps? Maps released specifically for the championships that were not used before the Championship?


Yes.

What? Does that mean they'll only be available at the Championship? Or will they be available in a future suppliment?

The more exclusive stuff they produce that isn't available by retail, the less happy I'll become.

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02/25/2006 1:23 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

What? Does that mean they'll only be available at the Championship? Or will they be available in a future suppliment?

The more exclusive stuff they produce that isn't available by retail, the less happy I'll become.

They'll be first available at the championships and later posted online and included in retailer kits.

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Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set

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02/25/2006 1:23 PM  
Some of this stuff is most excellent news. Keep the tidbits flowing! We apreciate them!

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02/25/2006 1:29 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael

quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

What? Does that mean they'll only be available at the Championship? Or will they be available in a future suppliment?

The more exclusive stuff they produce that isn't available by retail, the less happy I'll become.

They'll be first available at the championships and later posted online and included in retailer kits.

Thanks for the clarification. Looks like I'll have one more thing to hit up Dariustad for.

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02/25/2006 1:35 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
...They'll be first available at the championships and later posted online and included in retailer kits.

Sort of like Magma Keep and Fane of the Drow ... they were first available for the Championships, but then were more widely available.

However, one thing remains unclear: Will these maps be mysteries until the tourney? Or will their details be available prior to the tourney for planning?

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02/25/2006 2:10 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael

Summary from Ian Richards:

  • WotC is currently not officially supporting the European DDM championship, but this may change





Hopefully once they return my calls - only had one conversation to date and that was rushed due to Hasbro representatives recent ill fortune.

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02/25/2006 2:11 PM  
Thanks for posting the news here. My reactions to these news:

War Drums ended up with four warforged because some other concepts didn't work out
(I figured something like this happened, but I'm relieved to hear it wasn't on purpose. Still, I hope next time they have to fill in a gap they use something more useful.)

Some Dragonlance and Ravenloft minis are in the plans
(It doesn't matter to me as long as they are useful for RPG in a generic D&D setting.)

Twig Blight is coming, but not for a few more months
(Good to hear it's coming. I'd like to see it sooner than later.)

Clear plastic is in WDQ
(Good news, as long as it's only used where appropriate, such as for ice paraelementals or invisible stalkers.)

WotC coordinating actions with Paizo to bring minis related to Dragon and Dungeon (possible Spawn of Kyuss)
(This is really excellent news. I would absolutely love to get minis that fill in the gaps for the Dungeon Adventure Paths.)

No medium Wargrider any time soon
(That's too bad. I guess I'll have to try to make my own with regular wolf minis and goblin minis. I was disappointed Snig was not the correct size, as that is very important to me in using the minis for RPG.)

No aquatic maps any time soon
(I don't really care about the maps, but I hope we are still getting "aquatic" miniatures like aboleth, mermen, medium sharks, etc., even if they are given amphibious ability or magical airbreathing to make them useful to the skirmish folks.)

Future Icons depending on success of GBD and CRD
(I preordered two GBDs and one CRD. But next year I hope we get a purple dragon and another gargantuan chromatic dragon. I really don't want any more collosal figures after the CRD. I only scarcely wanted the CRD and would never have paid full retail for it even though I buy at least two cases of each DDM set plus extra singles three times a year.)

Uncommon giants in 2006
(Yeah! Another piece of great news, especially if these are frost and fire giants.)


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02/25/2006 2:21 PM  
Cool info. Thanks!


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02/25/2006 2:27 PM  
This is all good news cant wait to get new maps and the DL figs

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02/25/2006 2:33 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by alepulp

Hopefully once they return my calls - only had one conversation to date and that was rushed due to Hasbro representatives recent ill fortune.

Ian sounded like he was ready to support the championship, so maybe you should try contacting him directly (if you haven't already).

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Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set
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02/25/2006 3:18 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by zoroaster100

Thanks for posting the news here. My reactions to these news:



Ditto. [:)] ... except


Some Dragonlance and Ravenloft minis are in the plans
(There are some minis from these settings like Raistlin and Von Strahde that I would really like to see.)

Clear plastic is in WDQ
(I'm guessing this could mean a huge Uncommon Gelatinous Cube.)

Future Icons depending on success of GBD and CRD
(I look forward to the next ones. Hopefully Purple Worm, Tarrasque and others will be included in the icons series. There's more to D&D than dragons, but one dragon and one other each year I think would be a great compromise.)


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02/25/2006 3:23 PM  
Sounds like good things coming round the bend [:)]

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