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02/25/2006 12:17 PM  
Hi
Just wondered what minis are Dragonlance? The ones I know are:

Baaz Draconian
Kapak Draconian
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02/25/2006 12:20 PM  
Mina is also Dragonlance specific ...

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02/25/2006 12:20 PM  
Was she in Dragons of.... series? I recognise her name.

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02/25/2006 12:30 PM  
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Was she in Dragons of.... series? I recognise her name.

Mina's first appearance is in the War of Souls Trilogy (Dragons of a Fallen Sun, Dragons of a Vanished Moon, and Dragons of a Lost Star) and she reappears now in the new Dark Disciple Trilogy (Amber and Ashes, Amber and Iron, + 1 more).

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02/25/2006 12:39 PM  
So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).

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02/25/2006 12:41 PM  
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So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).

Eh? I don't understand what you're asking. Do you want someone to explain the basics of Dragonlance to you?

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02/25/2006 1:48 PM  
the young minotaur could be considered a dragonlance mini...

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02/25/2006 1:51 PM  
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the young minotaur could be considered a dragonlance mini...

It certainly works very well as one, but I believe it was actually intended for taking monstrous levels of minotaur from Savage Species. A 1st level Minotaur PC is medium rather than large. Hence the "Young Minotaur" name.

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02/25/2006 2:27 PM  
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So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).



The best selling point is the writing of Weis and Hickman. If you have time, read the Chronicles trilogy, and then the Legends trilogy (even better, but if follows Chronicles). Like most DL fans, you will probably come to like (or even fall in love with) the character Raistlin.

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02/25/2006 2:32 PM  
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Like most DL fans, you will probably come to like (or even fall in love with) the character Raistlin.

Yeah Rastilin is great I had a player who always model his pcs after him.

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02/25/2006 2:33 PM  
Raistlin and Tasselhoff for me. We need minis of them.
Could we also class Death Knight as one, or do they appear in other campaigns?

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02/25/2006 3:26 PM  
Lord Soth, anyone? [:D]

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02/25/2006 4:03 PM  
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Lord Soth, anyone? [:D]



Lord Soth is pretty nice too. Since we're on the topic, I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate Kitiara on Skie.

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02/25/2006 4:33 PM  
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So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).



The best selling point is the writing of Weis and Hickman. If you have time, read the Chronicles trilogy, and then the Legends trilogy (even better, but if follows Chronicles). Like most DL fans, you will probably come to like (or even fall in love with) the character Raistlin.



I wouldn't say I fell in love with or even liked Raistlin but he's certainly a very interesting person. He obviously has extremely low self-asteem and is almost completely driven by a "I'll show them!" attitude. This attitude leads him to think that his friends and even his own brother are against him. I've known a couple people during my life who were like this, normally because (like Raistlin) they were picked on at school. In the novels, Raistlin managed to "get back at everyone" using magic. In the modern world, Raistlin would be a prime candidate for one of those kids who comes to school with a gun and blows half his classmates away. It's a tragedy anyway you look at it.

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02/25/2006 4:35 PM  
Okay, Shoe has basically implied he's seriously considering the draconians as viable DL choices (quite possibly ahead of certain other mini choices).

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02/25/2006 4:42 PM  
Partially what inspired me to do this thread, Duriustad, partially interest.

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02/25/2006 6:37 PM  
I'm looking forward to the other draconians, though they will come far too late for my current campaign I am playing in since I got the impression that they won't be in WotDQ.

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02/26/2006 2:01 AM  
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Raistlin and Tasselhoff for me. We need minis of them.
Could we also class Death Knight as one, or do they appear in other campaigns?


Death Knights were around since the days of the first Fiend Folio (early 80s)...So they're not exactly DL specific.

Soth just happens to be the most famous Death Knight, so he's primarily associated with them.

Kind of like Drizzt and Drow.

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02/26/2006 3:16 AM  
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So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).



The best selling point is the writing of Weis and Hickman. If you have time, read the Chronicles trilogy, and then the Legends trilogy (even better, but if follows Chronicles). Like most DL fans, you will probably come to like (or even fall in love with) the character Raistlin.



I wouldn't say I fell in love with or even liked Raistlin but he's certainly a very interesting person. He obviously has extremely low self-asteem and is almost completely driven by a "I'll show them!" attitude. This attitude leads him to think that his friends and even his own brother are against him. I've known a couple people during my life who were like this, normally because (like Raistlin) they were picked on at school. In the novels, Raistlin managed to "get back at everyone" using magic. In the modern world, Raistlin would be a prime candidate for one of those kids who comes to school with a gun and blows half his classmates away. It's a tragedy anyway you look at it.




Very accurate about Raistlin. Remember too though that somewhere beneath all of that "I'll show them!" attitude of his, there is a conscience that he tries very hard to suppress, and a soft spot for the underdog (think Bupu here).

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02/26/2006 10:49 AM  
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Eh? I don't understand what you're asking. Do you want someone to explain the basics of Dragonlance to you?



Yeah, sell it to me!

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02/26/2006 11:35 AM  
Dragonlance is a setting for novels by Magaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. There are, as far as I can tell, three time periods the books are set over:

War of the Lance
War of Souls
Minotaur Wars

It contains the Draconians (Baaz Draconians and Kapak Draconians are miniatures), and perhaps one of the most popular mage characters, Raistlin. There are also other characters, and Lord Soth and Mina are two others.

p.s. Just brought 'Dragons of a Fallen Sun'. Was going to be Time of the Twins, but had sold between last look and now.

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02/26/2006 11:39 AM  
I would be in favor of seeing the Draconians finished. It would also be sort of cool to see a set where the Knights of Solamnia filled a common/uncommon/rare slot for each rank (Crown/Sword/Rose).

I wouldnt even complain if we saw a tinker gnome (so long as he uses a blunderbuss) [:p]

The DL iconics would all make for great pc-type figures, so no complaints there really. Kitiara riding Skie or Lord Soth riding a Nightmare would be especially sweet.

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02/26/2006 1:07 PM  
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I wouldnt even complain if we saw a tinker gnome (so long as he uses a blunderbuss) [:p]
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02/26/2006 1:12 PM  
I am all in favor of the Iconic DL minis. All of the original good and bad guys in particular. I couldn't really see a skirmish use or an RP use for a kender for anything buy a DL campaign but I would still get a few of them. What would the special ability of a kender be??? Steal anything not bolted down?


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02/26/2006 2:04 PM  
I think it should allow you to steal, once per game, victory points for being on your victory area. Sort of a mischief making device [}:)]

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02/26/2006 2:42 PM  
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Eh? I don't understand what you're asking. Do you want someone to explain the basics of Dragonlance to you?



Yeah, sell it to me!


Wow, where to begin.

The basics of dragonlance is that it is a high fantasy setting, full of epic battles and heroic struggles between the forces of good and evil, where good does not always win. Dragons are absolutely central to the history and plot of the setting. It has somewhat of a dark and gritty feel at times with many dark, anti-heros as central characters. The role of the gods is also huge in shaping the setting.

Dragonlance began with the Chronicles written by Weis and Hickman. It begins in a bleak time for Krynn, hundreds of years ago the gods threw a mountain of fire down upon the world, sundering it in a terrible event known as the Cataclysm. Since that time, they have abandoned the world and left mortals to their own devices.

If you'd like to know more about the setting, I'd suggest starting with Dragons of the Autumn Twilight and going from there (Dragons of the Winter Night and Dragons of the Spring Dawning).

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02/26/2006 3:00 PM  
Assuming most read fantasy literature who play with little fantasty minis...

Dragonlance by Weis/Hickman is some of the best (the 6 core books + maybe the prequels about the Twins) - maybe not first tier (Tolkien, Hobb, Martin) but certainly among the second tier (Brooks, Gemmell, Moorcock)

Absolutley worth the read...more then once [)]

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02/26/2006 3:08 PM  
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Dragonlance is a setting for novels by Magaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. There are, as far as I can tell, three time periods the books are set over:

War of the Lance
War of Souls
Minotaur Wars


Well not exactly.

The world is divided up into 5 ages (Starbirth, Dreams, Might, Despair, Mortals). With over 140 DL novels, there are books from most of these different time periods.

The core novels are the following:

Age of Despair:

Chronicles (War of the Lance):
Dragons of Autumn Twilight
Dragons of Winter Night
Dragons of Spring Dawning

Legends (Set over several time periods including the Cataclysm, the Dwarf Gate War and the Blue Lady War):
Time of the Twins
War of the Twins
Test of the Twins

The Second Generation (Set before and during the Chaos War):
The Second Generation
Dragons of Summer Flame

Soon to be released:
The Lost Chronicles (back to the War of the Lance):
Dragons of the Dwarven Depths

Age of Mortals:

War of Souls (set during the War of Souls, duh):
Dragons of a Fallen Sun
Dragons of a Lost Star
Dragons of a Vanished Moon

The Dark Disciple (after the War of Souls):
Amber and Ashes
Amber and Iron


The Minotaur Wars are a supplemental trilogy of novels set in the Age of Mortals. It is set during the War of Souls.

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02/26/2006 4:31 PM  
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So someone can post about/glorify the DL campaign setting and let everyone know, sell it to me(pros, cons, what's it about, etc etc).



What I really loved by the original Dragonlace (Chronicles and Legends), was that the characters were written very realistic. Each character had faults, and was not perfect in battle. They actually missed some times unlike favorite fanboy Drizzt. If you read those type of books, I would highly recomend them to anyone.

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02/26/2006 5:27 PM  
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I am all in favor of the Iconic DL minis. All of the original good and bad guys in particular. I couldn't really see a skirmish use or an RP use for a kender for anything buy a DL campaign but I would still get a few of them. What would the special ability of a kender be??? Steal anything not bolted down?




Kender would get taunt: DC20 target must rush to kender and make melle attacks :)

The dragonlance chronclies are well worth the read. Particularly the chronicles of the war.

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02/26/2006 10:05 PM  
I beleive one of the reasons the characters were so wonderful in Dragonlance is that they were originally PLAYER CHARACTERS and the story in the books came, at least partially, from what happend during the original RPG game....

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong on that...

Many of tha games i have run, when the players are into Role-Playing (lost art now with power gaming 3.5???) you could take a transcript of the game and turn it into an awesome fantasy adventure story...

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02/26/2006 10:10 PM  
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I beleive one of the reasons the characters were so wonderful in Dragonlance is that they were originally PLAYER CHARACTERS and the story in the books came, at least partially, from what happend during the original RPG game....

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong on that...



From what I remember, this is correct. They were originally Player Characters.

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02/26/2006 10:21 PM  
I could be wrong, but my memories tell me that they were player characters designed to be characters in a novel. Not just characters they decided to write about, but the realm was written & played with the novels in minds (and probably with the modules & source books in mind).

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