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02/28/2006 1:18 PM  
BOOSTERS

Commons

Slot C1
Shieldwall Soldier
Skeletal Legionnaire
Hunting Cougar
Arcanix Guard

Slot C2
Troglodyte Thug
Derro
Quaggoth Slave
Hobgoblin Archer

Slot C3
Wood Elf Ranger
Halfling Slinger
Axe Soldier
Goblin Blackblade

Slot C4
Orc Mauler
Horde Zombie
Terror Wight
Howling Orc

Uncommons

Slot U1
Warforged Scout
Steelheart Archer
Mephling Pyromancer
Sacred Watcher
Karnathi Zombie
Frost Dwarf
Flameskull

Slot U2 (Commanders)
Tiefling Blademaster
Warpriest of Moradin
Inspired Lieutenant
Goblin Underboss
Warforged Captain
Brass Samurai
Lion of Talisid

Slot U3
Hill Giant Barbarian
Large Duergar
Blood Ghost Beserker
Fiendish Girallon
Warforged Bodyguard
Elemental Wall
Combat Medic

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In starters, the distribution appears to use the same slots, except the wood elf ranger and orc mauler appear to not be included in the random figures for starters (as they are already fixed in the starters). The figures are:

2 X C1
2 X C2
1 X C3
1 X C4
1 X U1
1 X U2
1 X U3
1 X R

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The Large Duergar appeard in the 'expensive' slot, while the mephling pyromancer appears in the cheap slot. This means that you can get a very expensive piece in the otherwise cheap slot, and that it is impossible to get 3 larges in a booster or starter. In addition, the wood elf ranger and orc mauler are found in different slots, so you can pull a booster with the two fixed commons from the starter ...

For balance issues in limited, this is a little troubling. One person could pull a booster worth 334 points while another pulls a booster worth only worth 110 points. However, these would be fringe cases.

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02/28/2006 1:28 PM  
Thanks, jgsugden.

So, unlike Underdark, it appears we won't be getting any boosters with two large uncommons anymore.


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02/28/2006 1:28 PM  
Hmmm what I don't like is the possibilty of being able to get all 4 Warforged in a single booster....I realize the odds are very small, but I think I would cry myself to sleep that night if it happened.

Thanks for the work those who contributed!

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02/28/2006 1:49 PM  
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Originally posted by Vash

Hmmm what I don't like is the possibilty of being able to get all 4 Warforged in a single booster.


I ain't no math whiz, but I think it works out to 1:7889 and is actually the same odds for both starters and boosters.

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02/28/2006 1:52 PM  
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Originally posted by Vash

Hmmm what I don't like is the possibilty of being able to get all 4 Warforged in a single booster....I realize the odds are very small, but I think I would cry myself to sleep that night if it happened.

Thanks for the work those who contributed!

Good info and bad prostpect of the warforged booster [:(] hopefully it will the just the one so I can jquickly move on.

Vash, did you changed your username?

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02/28/2006 1:53 PM  
Thank you for this precious information, js.

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02/28/2006 1:54 PM  
Hey jugs, did anyone by chance send you "pulls per cover art" data. At least in the past two sets anyway its be proven that there is 1 common associated with each cover art, and that in every booster with that cover art you will get that one common.

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02/28/2006 1:56 PM  
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Vash, did you changed your username?



Yes, I did changed it [:p]

I be the poster formerly known as vash9284

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02/28/2006 2:28 PM  
Thanks a lot for the info.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vash

Hmmm what I don't like is the possibilty of being able to get all 4 Warforged in a single booster.


I ain't no math whiz, but I think it works out to 1:7889 and is actually the same odds for both starters and boosters.



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02/28/2006 2:29 PM  
No pulls per cover art were provided. However, As there are 3 types of cover art for boosters and 4 commons in each slot, I'm hopeful that there will be no correlation.

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02/28/2006 2:41 PM  
thank you for all the hard work on this Jugs. Its highly appreciated.

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02/28/2006 2:54 PM  
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thank you for all the hard work on this Jugs. Its highly appreciated.

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Get it right. [)]

Now, did anyone else see that amazing jug of moonshine on the Dukes of Hazzard rerun last night?

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02/28/2006 2:59 PM  
okay.. dont call Suge Jugs. Got it.

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02/28/2006 3:04 PM  
Pretty cool, thanks. I guess that leaves two uncommons per slot that I won't get two of in one case. Hear are my hopes for solos:

Group A: Warforged Scout, Karnathi Zombie
Group B: Warforged Captain, Lion of Talisid
Group C: Warforged Bodyguard, Elemental Wall

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02/28/2006 3:08 PM  
Great to know, thank you jgs.

I think I have my buying strategy planned out properly. I'll find out Saturday.[:p]drool[:p]

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02/28/2006 3:11 PM  
Here are my hopes for solos. [:P]


Slot 1: Mephling Pyromancer, Karnathi Zombie (Not that I dislike either of them, I just like the other options more.)
Slot 2: Warpriest of Moradin, Lion of Talsid
Slot 3: Elemental Wall, Combat Medic.

I am going to need a LOT of Warforged Bodyguards.



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02/28/2006 3:41 PM  
So in my starter and booster for the release tournament I want:

Starter: WER, Orc Mauler, Hunting Cougar, Skeletal Legionnaire, Troglodyte Thug, Quaggoth Slave, Axe Soldier, Terror Wight; Warforged Scout, Warpriest of Moradin, Hill Giant Barbarian; Some Rare.

Booster: Arcanix Guard, Quaggoth Slave, Goblin Blackblade, Terror Wight (mmm, spawnage); mephling pyromancer, Inspired Lieutenant, large duergar; Some Rare.

Wouldn't mind a combat medic or another Hill Giant Barbarian either. hehe.


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02/28/2006 3:54 PM  
nice, ill fix this in my random booster generator :o

does anyone know by chance aberrations' starter distro and harbinger's starter distro?

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02/28/2006 4:26 PM  
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I am going to need a LOT of Warforged Bodyguards.

Did somebody take out a hit on you? [:P]

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02/28/2006 4:37 PM  
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Originally posted by Vash

Hmmm what I don't like is the possibilty of being able to get all 4 Warforged in a single booster....I realize the odds are very small, but I think I would cry myself to sleep that night if it happened.

Thanks for the work those who contributed!



You get one Vash, zip me an email and we'll trade :) My oldest son wants a Warforged horde to go along with my youngest's Bullywug Thug horde.

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02/28/2006 5:53 PM  
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Originally posted by jgsugden

STARTERS

In starters, the distribution appears to use the same slots, except the wood elf ranger and orc mauler appear to not be included in the random figures for starters (as they are already fixed in the starters). The figures are:

2 X C1
2 X C2
1 X C3
1 X C4
1 X U1
1 X U2
1 X U3
1 X R



This part confused me, it seems to say that it is extremely unlikely that you will get anything from C3, C4 except the wood elf ranger and orc mauler appear. Or did you mean:

1 X C1
1 X C2
1 X (C3 - wood elf ranger), wood elf rangar
1 X (C4 - orc mauler), orc mauler
1 X U1
1 X U2
1 X U3
1 X R



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02/28/2006 7:16 PM  
Yes, I was listing only the random figures. The complete list of figures from a starter are:

Wood Elf Ranger
Orc Mauler
2 X C1
2 X C2
1 X C3 (excluding Wood Elf Ranger)
1 X C4 (excluding Orc Mauler)
1 X U1
1 X U2
1 X U3
1 X R

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03/01/2006 10:21 AM  
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Originally posted by devasque

You get one Vash, zip me an email and we'll trade :) My oldest son wants a Warforged horde to go along with my youngest's Bullywug Thug horde.


Bullywug horde, eh? Where do you live and how easy will it be for me to steal his Bullywugs and run? ;)

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quote:
Originally posted by devasque

You get one Vash, zip me an email and we'll trade :) My oldest son wants a Warforged horde to go along with my youngest's Bullywug Thug horde.


Bullywug horde, eh? Where do you live and how easy will it be for me to steal his Bullywugs and run? ;)



He's four so maybe easy. It's the 'what will daddy do' you got to watch out for. The heck with dad, mom would chew you up and kick what was left. [:p]

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03/01/2006 2:42 PM  
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He's four so maybe easy. It's the 'what will daddy do' you got to watch out for. The heck with dad, mom would chew you up and kick what was left. [:p]


No matter, any four-year-old precocious enough to recognize the unbridled majesty of the Bullywug Thug is untouchable in my book. ;)

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