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03/01/2006 7:24 AM  
http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Miniatures-ARCHFIENDS-RARE-DRIZZT-DROW-RANGER-MINT_W0QQitemZ8771256467QQcategoryZ2545QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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03/01/2006 7:27 AM  
LOL Wow this guy never not amazes me. Wonder how long it is going to take him or his alter ego to come here and post some stupid reply.

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03/01/2006 7:45 AM  
My question is this....

Regular Drizzt is 120ish.

I have Drizzt, alibet mine is not perfect. It's got writing on it.

Some strange chap wrote all over it.... [:D]

Yes, Mine is SIGNED by RA himself... [:D] [:D]

makes me wonder what THAT'S worth....

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03/01/2006 7:47 AM  
WOW, what a bargin....

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03/01/2006 8:26 AM  
I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.


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03/01/2006 8:30 AM  
I will be amazed if someone buys this....Then again we gamers are a strange bunch!


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03/01/2006 8:31 AM  
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I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.

True, but the fact that he is trying to take advantage of the uninformed is what makes his name a true statement. Because you gotta admit, charging 130$ for a little plastic figure is abusive. But hey, like you said, no one is being forced into paying that and those who do deserve to pay every penny of it.

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03/01/2006 9:20 AM  
Look at it this way..its just free money (listing fees) for eBay, helping to keep their costs down for the rest of us. [:)] When it doesn't sell at that price, he'll relist, and probably wonder why it didn't sell the first time.

A fool and his money are soon parted. Its been my experience that there are enough fools out there to keep most of us in business for a long time. [:D]

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03/01/2006 9:21 AM  
I find his aggressive tone off-putting, but I have to side with him on this.

People have been paying lots for this, why not run it the flagpole for a high price and see if anyone salutes. He's a businessman.


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03/01/2006 9:24 AM  
If someone wants to drop that kind of coin on one mini go right a head.

I don't think it is as big a news as it was earlier when people were selling off good rares for huge amounts. Now we know that there are some stores with prices that high as well.

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03/01/2006 9:34 AM  
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I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.




Hate is a very strong word and not to be used lightly. I don't hate Creep. I dislike Creep because his shipping is high (check some of his other auctions) and he frequently will not combine shipping on multiple orders. Is that his right? Absolutely! But exercising that right will INSURE he never gets any of my business. Like I said in a previous thread, when I can buy from truly great sellers like Auggest and Hubb, why should I waste my time with a..............Creep.

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03/01/2006 9:44 AM  
Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them, end of story.

Your house, car, minis,(wife, kids, dog) all have a value that you'd give them up for... it might be extreme but there is a value.

If someone really wants a Drizzt... he can have one, for $129...
Both sides win.

If nobody wants a Drizzt enough then it doesn't sell.

I wouldn't pay $129 for a Drizzt, I have one, why would I want a second?

If someone offered me $129 for it, I take the cash... I'll have to think of the value for my wife, but I think it would be more than a Drizzt... [:D]

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03/01/2006 9:50 AM  
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Your house, car, minis,(wife, kids, dog) all have a value that you'd give them up for...


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03/01/2006 10:12 AM  
At least he's only charging $3.25 for shipping on this one. [)]

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03/01/2006 10:36 AM  
He's just an opportunist. While I would never pay that much, I know people who would. I have 1 and I try to get at least 2 of the tier 1 pieces, since he is not, I haven't concerned my self with a dupe.

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03/01/2006 11:01 AM  
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quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr

I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.

True, but the fact that he is trying to take advantage of the uninformed is what makes his name a true statement. Because you gotta admit, charging 130$ for a little plastic figure is abusive. But hey, like you said, no one is being forced into paying that and those who do deserve to pay every penny of it.


Considering that your icon is of a little plastic figure worth more than $30 bucks.......

So the real question is would you trade your drizit for 2 or 3 beholders??

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03/01/2006 11:04 AM  
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Your ...wife, kids, dog... all have a value that you'd give them up for...



Nope. You are wrong there.

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03/01/2006 12:23 PM  
Last I checked, Drizzt was valued 140$ on Zenako's price list. What is the issue here, exactly ?

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03/01/2006 12:29 PM  

I don't see the issue; as long as it is actually Drizzt and has a card, the buyer (if anyone actually buys it - and you know someone will sooner or later, people are stupid) is getting what is promised. So what if they choose to spend what an entire case of boosters would cost? That is their prerogative. If someone can search for Drizzt on ebay, they should be smart enough to be able to find another auction for less.

Its not like Creep is actually promising something he hasn't got, or simply refusing to ship them, like SES/CKGames/Fantasy Quest.


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03/01/2006 12:35 PM  
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quote:
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Your ...wife, kids, dog... all have a value that you'd give them up for...



Nope. You are wrong there.



I whole-heartedly agree.

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03/01/2006 12:44 PM  
Just a couple of points.
1) We have no idea what HE paid for it. He might be making only $25 on the deal for all we know. Creep has frequently bought from me (and a few other dealers) which is fine with me as we have diffent bussiness models. I don't carry items I can no longer get at wholesale except for items I already have. I don't speculate and have a flat markup (overall) that I shoot for. When you speculate you can get burned far too easy so he should try and make as much as he can, while he can.
2) The "its only a piece of plastic" agrument is bad because what is a $100 bill really....only a piece of paper (and no I won't send any of ya'll one [:)]. Every collection, fad or lasting has had people say this. I use to sell alot of magic cards out of my brick and morter and would hear this all the time. All possesions have a value (even if only to oneself) and that flucuates with demand.
3) My wife and kids are not possesions and are priceless TO ME.

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03/01/2006 1:03 PM  
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr

I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.

True, but the fact that he is trying to take advantage of the uninformed is what makes his name a true statement. Because you gotta admit, charging 130$ for a little plastic figure is abusive. But hey, like you said, no one is being forced into paying that and those who do deserve to pay every penny of it.


Considering that your icon is of a little plastic figure worth more than $30 bucks.......

So the real question is would you trade your drizit for 2 or 3 beholders??

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03/01/2006 1:05 PM  
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Last I checked, Drizzt was valued 140$ on Zenako's price list. What is the issue here, exactly ?

Drizzt is $140 on Zenako's because only 1 store has him in stock, and they're asking $140 for it. It's kind of like how a hot dog costs $8 at the ballgame. Or how a box of candy costs $3 at the theater. Because they control the market, they can set the price to whatever they want. This is what creep is doing as well. By buying up pieces from other sellers, he will eventually have control over the market of older figures (more or less), and they will cost as much as he wants to charge. That's the way capitalism works. It's a good way for him to make a profit, but will make it harder for players to get the older pieces they want.

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03/01/2006 1:18 PM  
I don't see what the issue is here. They're his minis, let him list them for whatever he likes. You know we'll all gawk when someone actually pays that much for it.

The $140 value on Zenako's seems pretty consistent with relative difference between the price guides and the Ebay market. Drizzt regularly sells for >$70 on Ebay auctions. Zenako has been very clear minis can be purchased on ebay for 50% to 67% of the price guide value. In terms of %, this price difference is similar for most of the minis on the list, it's just seems more extreme because Drizzt is the most expensive mini on the market.

Creep's asking price may be high, but it's similar to the 1 online store that is selling him. I feel Creep's prices and shipping charges are higher than I'm willing to pay so I don't buy from him. The few things I've read from him (posts here, Ebay feedback) do seem to have a negative attitude as well. If you share these concerns don't buy, otherwise happy bidding. I'm just glad we have an open secondary market with lots of sellers to choose from to buy singles.



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03/01/2006 1:20 PM  
Geeesh. How many of these (poorly named) threads do we need? Not only are they a complete waste of space, as people that think he is charging too much won't buy from him anyways, but the thread has such a vague name that those of us that'd rather spend our (theoretically) limited amount of time reading relevant threads can't avoid it.

It's a high price. Get over it.

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03/01/2006 1:27 PM  
I've got an extra DCoL and (bagged) Beholder.

Anyone got a (bagged) Drizzt?

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03/01/2006 1:48 PM  
Why are we always amazed at what people are asking price-wise on eBay? There are always those who list things way above the norm. It is no worse than the crazy prices of the other online stores. The only fool is the person who pays that price.

I see a lot of stores listing older rares for very high prices. They rarely ever sell them at those prices though. They are not really serious about moving them, just fishing.

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03/01/2006 2:47 PM  
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Originally posted by jgsugdenthose of us that'd rather spend our (theoretically) limited amount of time reading relevant threads can't avoid it.


Did you get some free time then? Not only did you read it, you posted to it [:p]

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03/01/2006 3:37 PM  
Honestly, the market will decide whether or not Creep's prices are too high or not. While I'd love to have a Drizzit (the only drow mini I'm currently missing), I have zero desire to buy one for that kind of price (or anywhere close to it). But, if someone is willing to pay what Creep charges, then that is their loss and Creep's gain.

Personally, I'll keep my business with Auggie - better prices, better shipping charge, and always a good experience. And I'll learn to live without the big D (especially since I only want him for every drow mini, not to skirmish - my 'all drow' fixation isn't worth that).

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03/01/2006 5:01 PM  
it could be worse lol

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03/01/2006 5:10 PM  
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it could be worse lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Miniatures-COLLECTORS-DREAM-WAR-DRUMS-PLUS-8-SETS_W0QQitemZ8773795849QQcategoryZ2545QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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03/01/2006 5:17 PM  
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it could be worse lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Miniatures-COLLECTORS-DREAM-WAR-DRUMS-PLUS-8-SETS_W0QQitemZ8773795849QQcategoryZ2545QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Oh that, got it rolling around in my sock drawer... right. I'd be amazed to see that sell.

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03/01/2006 5:20 PM  
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it could be worse lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Miniatures-COLLECTORS-DREAM-WAR-DRUMS-PLUS-8-SETS_W0QQitemZ8773795849QQcategoryZ2545QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Wow, that's pricy.

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03/01/2006 6:17 PM  
What really is surprising about this auction is that he has it listed for more than other buy-it-now auctions out there. Regardless of whether $129 is a fair price or not, why would you pay it if you can get the same thing for less? Seems like I remember seeing BIN prices in the $80 range at the same time this was on.

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03/01/2006 6:35 PM  
In spite of that sheer amount of money for a single rare (although out of production) mini, I've seen this guy selling WD cases for about 75 $, that's cheaper I have found around...

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03/01/2006 7:12 PM  
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it could be worse lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Miniatures-COLLECTORS-DREAM-WAR-DRUMS-PLUS-8-SETS_W0QQitemZ8773795849QQcategoryZ2545QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Did you guys notice that this auction is for all nine sets complete. $3400 for all nine isn't a bad price, I couldn't afford it but Zenako's guide has all 9 for around $5000.

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03/01/2006 9:34 PM  
What Oryan77 said...

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03/01/2006 9:47 PM  
I don't really see a problem here. Other buy-it-nows are within $10 of creep's price.

Personally I hope bagged Drizzty goes the way of the Black Lotus. It'd be nice to pay off my student loans in a few years [:D]

I'll jump in the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" camp. There are some lovely Drizzties auctioning in the $50-60 range at the moment.

As to everything having a price....even I'm not that cynical (and I'm pretty Bleeping cynical). I'll agree wholeheartedly with Corim Danex and Auggest: Family members aren't possessions and will never have a price.

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03/01/2006 11:38 PM  
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I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why does everyone hate this guy for charging a lot for miniatures? If you don't like the price, don't buy it from him. If he manages to sell it, good for him. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase his figures.



I feel the same. It's not like the price is completely out of line with what other online sellers as asking. Caveat emptor.

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03/02/2006 1:22 AM  
Hmmm I woder how much I can sell mine off for, I could sign the card and everthing. :)

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