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MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:19 PM |
| I've got something that's just come up last minute and will be taking place on the same day as my local release tournament. Without saying exactly what it is I'm trying to gauge whether or not going to the release tournament is more important to me. I'm hoping to get a better feel for this through some of the answers that will get posted here. Right now I'm sitting at about 50/50 one way or the other.
I'll throw an example up just to get things started.
Wife goes into labor the morning of the release tournament. Do you take her to the hospital or find a replacement so you can make the release tourney?
My gut on that one tells me almost one hundred percent that I'd be the one taking her to the hospital. Almost 100%... there's always the off chance that she'd come with me to the tounament and have the kid there, Right?
I'll add any new examples posted to a master list so that posters can vote on all of them. The master list is 2 posts down people. | | John
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| Richard II Commander
 3663 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:21 PM |
| | In general family comes first. But in the end, whatever I commit to first takes priority, assuming the secondary thing occuring would be something plannable. Someone tells me the night before a tournament about something else I'm "supposed" to go to, they can stick it in their ear, I'm going to the tournament and they shoulda let me know earlier. | |
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| MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:22 PM |
| Master list.
1.Family emergency i.e.Wife going into labor or Granparents Funeral (8 vote) tournament (1 vote I think he was joking though) 2.Family non emergency (0 vote) tournament first (3 vote) 3.Work (1 vote) tournament (1 vote) 4.Friends (1 vote) Tournament (1 vote) 5.Rectal Sergery (0 vote) tournament (1 vote) | | John
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| wolfsbane114 Warrior
 327 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:25 PM |
| Family Emergencies first. Work (providided they'll fire you if don't go) First. All others second. | | Champion of Flint Fireforge Knight of The DarkMantle KoK: The Easily Swayed "I use to have a working probelm, until it got in the way of my gaming." | |
|  Ack Underboss
 1476 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:26 PM |
| um. yeah. Im pretty sure that missing a release tourney is less important than the massive physical, monetary and psychological damage your soon to be ex-wife would do to you.
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| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 6922 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:26 PM |
| Uhm, yeah, or bring a mid-wife with you to the tourney and hope the other players don't kill you with their stares of "are you kidding me?"
Go with her to the hospital and consider yourself lucky for two reasons;
1. You're having a baby and sharing the experience.
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| Mrs. Rune Warrior
 230 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:28 PM |
| I agree, family comes first. If however, all you were doing was sitting home all day with your family, then I would say go.
If I was in labor and Rune decided to put ANYTHING over driving me to the hospital, he would be a dead man![xx(][:D]
As to whatever it is you want to do, just ask yourself, can I do it another time? Will I have more fun doing x as opposed to going to the release event? Will my family be mad if I go to the release instead of x? And go with what feels right. | | "Today is gone. Today was fun. Tomorrow is another one. Every day, from here to there, funny things are everywhere." Dr. Seuss | |
| Orion72 Underboss
 1917 Posts



 | | 03/01/2006 2:29 PM |
| | If your wife gives birth during the tourney, does the new baby count against your limit of 8 miniatures, or is it considered a "Minion"? | | | |
| Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:31 PM |
| Immediate Family should always be first priority: Wife and kids if you're old enough, Parents if your young and still living with them, although the second option is a bit more greyish as you can always talk your parents out of it. [:p] I dropped a class in college because I thought my daughter would be born around one of the key weeks for that class.
After that its up to you and your own conscience(sp?) To me it's whatever is planned first gets priority out of respect for that first plan. Now IMO if I signed up to go to the tourney and my friends called up a week later and said "hey lets grab lunch and a beer" I would put my friends first.
Anything thats rescheduable I would put below the minis tourney. If xyz were to happen I would say, hey look I have plans most of that day, can we do it after? or even on Sunday?
Without sounding assinine, it all comes down to how much you value minis over the rest of your life events. | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
| Caustic_Mouse Sergeant
 464 Posts



 Tooele, Ut
 | | 03/01/2006 2:33 PM |
| Good idea for a post I am going through something right now myself.
Gramps just passed away last night (he was in pain for awhile, it was a good thing) even with the possibility of the funeral being on Friday with all the family in town it will be hard to break away for the event on Saturday.
I know it sounds easy and my wife doesn't mind. But do I try to make it or just forget it and focus on family?
Of course if it is on Saturday there is no question.
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| Felagund Sergeant
 922 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:39 PM |
| | I think I've managed to avoid such conflicts by living nearly 800 miles away from any immediate family members. [:)] | | Champion of Gnomes | |
| MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:40 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse
Good idea for a post I am going through something right now myself.
Gramps just passed away last night (he was in pain for awhile, it was a good thing) even with the possibility of the funeral being on Friday with all the family in town it will be hard to break away for the event on Saturday.
I know it sounds easy and my wife doesn't mind. But do I try to make it or just forget it and focus on family?
Of course if it is on Saturday there is no question.
Would you still be split on that decision if the funeral were on Saturday?(same day as the tourney) | | John
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| Hero of Skirmish doubtofbuddha Commander
 3371 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:40 PM |
| | Sam (lalato) is getting married on the 4th. So he won't be attending the release tourney. ;) Since I am a groomsman I won't be there either. If I wasn't a groomsman... well.... It doesn't start until 6 pm, so I would probably try to get as many rounds in as I could before I went to the tournament. [:D] | | I am not gone. | |
| Caustic_Mouse Sergeant
 464 Posts



 Tooele, Ut
 | | 03/01/2006 2:42 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by MackeyJ
quote: Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse
Good idea for a post I am going through something right now myself.
Gramps just passed away last night (he was in pain for awhile, it was a good thing) even with the possibility of the funeral being on Friday with all the family in town it will be hard to break away for the event on Saturday.
I know it sounds easy and my wife doesn't mind. But do I try to make it or just forget it and focus on family?
Of course if it is on Saturday there is no question.
Would you still be split on that decision if the funeral were on Saturday?(same day as the tourney)
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| Username Warlord
 5690 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:43 PM |
| | ¡la familia viene primero! | | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
| dumdragon Sergeant
 684 Posts


 Amityville, NY
 | | 03/01/2006 2:44 PM |
| I would go to the Tourney. I have a couple of reasons for this.
1- Your wife can always squeeze out another puppy at a more convienent time 2- You may already have a child or 2 and this one is a spare so you don't really need to be there 3- Your wife will be in extreme pain or on drugs so she won't miss you not being there 4- Send a proxy in your place to receive the verbal abuse. This will keep your marraige together because later you will not fight about all the hurtful things she said to you while delivering your spawn 5- Maybe her sister, mom, sister in law or niece would like to "experience the miracle". You would be making a sacrife so other loved ones can be with your wife during the birth. Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time
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| Mrs. Rune Warrior
 230 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:51 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dumdragon
I would go to the Tourney. I have a couple of reasons for this.
1- Your wife can always squeeze out another puppy at a more convienent time 2- You may already have a child or 2 and this one is a spare so you don't really need to be there 3- Your wife will be in extreme pain or on drugs so she won't miss you not being there 4- Send a proxy in your place to receive the verbal abuse. This will keep your marraige together because later you will not fight about all the hurtful things she said to you while delivering your spawn 5- Maybe her sister, mom, sister in law or niece would like to "experience the miracle". You would be making a sacrife so other loved ones can be with your wife during the birth. Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time
[:0] I would hope you were joking.... | | "Today is gone. Today was fun. Tomorrow is another one. Every day, from here to there, funny things are everywhere." Dr. Seuss | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6809 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 03/01/2006 2:54 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse
quote: Originally posted by MackeyJ
quote: Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse
Good idea for a post I am going through something right now myself.
Gramps just passed away last night (he was in pain for awhile, it was a good thing) even with the possibility of the funeral being on Friday with all the family in town it will be hard to break away for the event on Saturday.
I know it sounds easy and my wife doesn't mind. But do I try to make it or just forget it and focus on family?
Of course if it is on Saturday there is no question.
Would you still be split on that decision if the funeral were on Saturday?(same day as the tourney)
If you'd like to pay the release fee, I could show up and get the stuff for you and you could pay me back later. I need to go to the location to make a trade or two, and I can't be there for the whole thing. I could enter in your behalf, not open the packages, and drop. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
| MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:55 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dumdragon
I would go to the Tourney. I have a couple of reasons for this.
1- Your wife can always squeeze out another puppy at a more convienent time 2- You may already have a child or 2 and this one is a spare so you don't really need to be there 3- Your wife will be in extreme pain or on drugs so she won't miss you not being there 4- Send a proxy in your place to receive the verbal abuse. This will keep your marraige together because later you will not fight about all the hurtful things she said to you while delivering your spawn 5- Maybe her sister, mom, sister in law or niece would like to "experience the miracle". You would be making a sacrife so other loved ones can be with your wife during the birth. Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time
"Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time"
Yeah, or for sales purposes right?[:0][:D] Not sure if you're married. I'm not married, but I'm sure that I won't share those views once I am. | | John
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| Sulaco Underboss
 1605 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:57 PM |
| In order of priority:
Wife Friends Family Pre-release tourney D&D game Release Tourney Read a Book Normal DDM Tourney Video Games Do Laundry Watch TV Sit Around doing SFA Haircut Painful Root Canal Exploratory Rectal Surgey Work | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
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| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6809 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 03/01/2006 2:59 PM |
| Here is my opinion on these issues addressed by MackeyJ:
(1) If my wife were in labor or it were a family emergency (like a funeral), I would not attend the event. (2) If I committed to doing something else, I would stick with my commitment. If the commitment were to do something that wasn't a big deal, and then I found out that there was a conflict with the release event, I would consider asking how the people would feel about rescheduling the other thing. If it were something that didn't reschedule easily, I would honor my first commitment. (3) If something came up after I decided to attend release event, I would most likely be unavailable for missing the DDM event. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
| *censored* glumag Warlord
 5968 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 2:59 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Username
¡la familia viene primero!
well said. Family comes first, everytime, anytime, anywhere (unless you hate your family [)]) I happen to like mine and get along with them perfectly.
There is nothing that would make me miss the birth of my kid(s). We are talking about a trivial game over family? Is there really a contest here? My family has been there and will always be there for me, so why diss them over a couple of hours of trivial gameplay? You never know when it is going to be the last time you see a member of your family...the game can always be rescheduled.
On a side note to that 'labor' situation. I was camping in Feb 2002 out in Vermont with a bunch of friends, one happens to be a best friend and a player of mine, I got a call from my wife telling me she was pregnant and we knew he was getting married on October 19th already, we looked at each other and knew somehow I was ggoing to miss the wedding. Due date was Oct 12th but my son decided to wait and my wife went into labor around 11pm on the 18th and my son was born at 21:37 the 19th. Needless to say I missed my friend's wedding.
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| MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 3:05 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sulaco
In order of priority:
Wife Friends Family Pre-release tourney D&D game Release Tourney Read a Book Normal DDM Tourney Video Games Do Laundry Watch TV Sit Around doing SFA Haircut Painful Root Canal Exploratory Rectal Surgey Work
LOL! That's too funny! | | John
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| Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 11768 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 03/01/2006 3:09 PM |
| Family emergency.
Urgent & important duties. eg. car is broken (I need a car for work) eg. an SUV just drove into your foyer (happened to a neighbour)
Events that were committed to in advance. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
| Tactician Sergeant
 888 Posts




 | | Alakhai Underboss
 1842 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 3:29 PM |
| For me, it's rather simple.
Living in the so-called Capital of Europe and not having anyone organising a tourney.
...
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| Sharn Inquisitor Underboss
 1623 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 3:31 PM |
| | Family first, but it depends. If my wife was going into labor, I'd be there. If your relatives are gathering and hanging around the TV eating BBQ and telling bad jokes...my wife would let me go any day. | | | |
| Gnolaum Sergeant
 854 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 3:31 PM |
| 1) Unexpected and unavoidable emergencies. 2) Things I've planned and want to do. 3) Everything else.
Wife going into labour is fits into (1), as does any emergency room visit of spouse/child/*very* close friend.
In fact, wife being close to due date would probably negate me going unless the store was very close and we had a reliable method of communication. | | My online store http://store.hoardsters.com Use quick search to see scans of every stat card! | |
| dumdragon Sergeant
 684 Posts


 Amityville, NY
 | | 03/01/2006 3:42 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Rune
quote: Originally posted by dumdragon
I would go to the Tourney. I have a couple of reasons for this.
1- Your wife can always squeeze out another puppy at a more convienent time 2- You may already have a child or 2 and this one is a spare so you don't really need to be there 3- Your wife will be in extreme pain or on drugs so she won't miss you not being there 4- Send a proxy in your place to receive the verbal abuse. This will keep your marraige together because later you will not fight about all the hurtful things she said to you while delivering your spawn 5- Maybe her sister, mom, sister in law or niece would like to "experience the miracle". You would be making a sacrife so other loved ones can be with your wife during the birth. Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time
[:0] I would hope you were joking....
Did I forget to put a few smileys in my post? Oops... There should be a smiley after 4 of the reasons I listed above. You can pick where they go [:p]
MackeyJ- I like the sales idea. [:D]
I do not subscribe to the above ideas or condone using any of them.
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| MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 3:58 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dumdragon
quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Rune
quote: Originally posted by dumdragon
I would go to the Tourney. I have a couple of reasons for this.
1- Your wife can always squeeze out another puppy at a more convienent time 2- You may already have a child or 2 and this one is a spare so you don't really need to be there 3- Your wife will be in extreme pain or on drugs so she won't miss you not being there 4- Send a proxy in your place to receive the verbal abuse. This will keep your marraige together because later you will not fight about all the hurtful things she said to you while delivering your spawn 5- Maybe her sister, mom, sister in law or niece would like to "experience the miracle". You would be making a sacrife so other loved ones can be with your wife during the birth. Plus you can always have it video'd for viewing at a more appropriate time
[:0] I would hope you were joking....
Did I forget to put a few smileys in my post? Oops... There should be a smiley after 4 of the reasons I listed above. You can pick where they go [:p]
MackeyJ- I like the sales idea. [:D]
I do not subscribe to the above ideas or condone using any of them.
"I do not subscribe to the above ideas or condone using any of them."
Good Man! Still funny stuff though. I appreciate your sense of humor.
As much as I want to go to the tounament, I know I'm not going to be able to make it (This drives me completely nuts) I find it helps to try and at least find some humor in the situation. That's why I started this thread with the whole wife in labor thing, I just knew that had some potential. | | John
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|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10446 Posts


 United States
 | | 03/01/2006 4:13 PM |
| Generally, I'd put "going into labor" as pretty high up there on the list. Then again, if it isn't mine . . . .
Um, let's see, family emergencies outrank gaming. I've had D&D sessions interrupted by deaths a couple of times in my life.
Weddings are usually planned, so, the unplanned variety can just take a backseat to my entertainment needs.
Babies? Heck ya. Babies rule. If a baby is coming into the world, everything else can just stop as far as I'm concerned. Moms need all the help they can get, so, the dice bag and the boxes of minis just have to wait.
Work is pretty low priority. I mean, work sucks.
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| shemnon Warrior
 279 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 4:16 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by MackeyJ I'll throw an example up just to get things started.
Wife goes into labor the morning of the release tournament. Do you take her to the hospital or find a replacement so you can make the release tourney?
That situation is not so hypothetical.
I myself was more concerned that my Wife was going to go into labour while I was at the Abberations pre-release, which I drove 2 hours to go to. She was due two days before the pre-release. The good news (for me, not her) was that she didn't and we induced labour the following thursday, on our 4th Anniversary. Man, did I luck out or what? | | The Miniatures War College -- Advenio paratus. Egressus melior paratus. | |
| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 6922 Posts




 | | 03/01/2006 4:54 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Tactician
Family emergency or some child hurt in acceident (I kinda specialize in x-rays for children, I seem to be able to make them feel comfortible while they are hurting) Would take presedence.
Wouldn't they be more comfortable at a pre-release event with lots of toys? [)] | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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