qillan_dvra
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Oztraylya
 | | 03/02/2006 1:09 AM |
| I have just pre-ordered my Gargantuan Black Dragon and Colossal Red Dragon (rubs hands together in demonic but gleeful manner). What does everyone else think will be the next item in the Icons range?
In keeping with the Dragon theme I would love to see a Colossal Takhisis. But if the Icon range allows for other beasties then I would love to see a Carcass Crab from the Eberron setting.
Edit - Okay so the Carcass Crab has reached Iconic status ... yet! In that case bring on the Tarrasque (although its usage would be limited. The Purple Worm would certainly be a more useful option as would a Gargantuan Spider.
What do you think[?]
BTW - if you are concerned over the price of the Icons check Amazoon.com - they have, what I believe are, some pretty good deals for individual purchases and for both. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 1:59 AM |
| A carcass crab is not what I would call an "Icon." Maybe in ten years and Eberron is still thrashing around, having finally become a long-standing world instead of the "recent upstart." Then, maybe, the carcass crab would be viable as a D&D Icon.
The dragons are certainly HIGH on the list of lcons. Heck, there's only 3 non-epic Monster Manual dragons that reach colossal size on or before becoming a Great Wyrm. All of the others make Gargantuan. I would love to see two Gargantuan minis and one Colossal mini per year. One for each season (spring, summer, fall) with winter off (Christmas, New Years, Winter Fantasy for teasers).
This would allow them to add in other gargantuan/colossal monsters but still work on the core of the icon line: Dragons. Ignore my fanaticism for a moment (Yes, really!) and think about it. Dragons are in the name of the game. That alone nets them iconic status, especially the MM 10.
Who knows? Maybe one iconic would be an enlarged huge giant. One should be a gargantuan monsterous spider. These maybe not be *pure* icons, but they scare the everloving everything out of a party. That's good enough for me. As long as the monsters are classics for the time being, I thik the Icons line(s) should have a reasonable chance to succeed.
Bring the newer stuff out when it's aged a few years, please! I'm not saying it shouldn't be made -- simply, not right now. | |
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zenthrus
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| | 03/02/2006 2:18 AM |
| It's all about the Purple Worm. [:D]
Dragons are the most likely candidates for the Icons line for a long time (2 icons per year, 10 core dragons = 5 years). There aren't a huge number of other critters that hit the "Iconic" category. Purple Worm, Terrasque, Roc, Elder Black Puddin', and Nightcrawler are about it for Gargantuan and bigger critters from the MMI and have been around long enough to be considered Iconic.
Personally I'd love to see a Collossal Force Dragon [:D] or an Epic Swarm [:o] but first give me the Purple Worm!!!!! | |
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| | 03/02/2006 2:25 AM |
| | I would like to see a Titan. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 2:52 AM |
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| | 03/02/2006 2:57 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
It's all about the Purple Worm. [:D]
Dragons are the most likely candidates for the Icons line for a long time (2 icons per year, 10 core dragons = 5 years). There aren't a huge number of other critters that hit the "Iconic" category. Purple Worm, Terrasque, Roc, Elder Black Puddin', and Nightcrawler are about it for Gargantuan and bigger critters from the MMI and have been around long enough to be considered Iconic.
Personally I'd love to see a Collossal Force Dragon [:D] or an Epic Swarm [:o] but first give me the Purple Worm!!!!!
I'm down with Force Dragons! However, I could seriously use a colossal prismatic! [:D] | |
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Ackrus
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| | 03/02/2006 3:12 AM |
| | How about a Tarraque King of all monsters[:D] | |
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driordan
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| | 03/02/2006 3:30 AM |
| I'll second both the purple worm and the titan as good iconic monsters
I'd also like to see the Kracken, though I realy don't know how they'd make it. Should it be half in / half out of the water? Just a bunch of tentacles? Clear water or something opaque?
A Roc is another possibility, though I have doubts as to how well that would sell. But I think that we're more likely to see the Tarassque. It's realy big, could look realy good with the right sculpt, and is definately an iconic D&D monster.
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| | 03/02/2006 3:43 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by driordan
I'll second both the purple worm and the titan as good iconic monsters
I'd also like to see the Kracken, though I realy don't know how they'd make it. Should it be half in / half out of the water? Just a bunch of tentacles? Clear water or something opaque?
A Roc is another possibility, though I have doubts as to how well that would sell. But I think that we're more likely to see the Tarassque. It's realy big, could look realy good with the right sculpt, and is definately an iconic D&D monster.
Kracken could work if they could include some sort of a cool map/scenario that was partly on land and partly on water. Give the beast some kind of a grapple ability to pull smaller creatures into the water for some drowning damage (to which Water Elementals would be immune of course). | |
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| | 03/02/2006 4:01 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by driordan
I'll second both the purple worm and the titan as good iconic monsters
I'd also like to see the Kracken, though I realy don't know how they'd make it. Should it be half in / half out of the water? Just a bunch of tentacles? Clear water or something opaque?
A Roc is another possibility, though I have doubts as to how well that would sell. But I think that we're more likely to see the Tarassque. It's realy big, could look realy good with the right sculpt, and is definately an iconic D&D monster.
The Titan now has a base size of Huge. | |
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Zyla
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| | 03/02/2006 5:31 AM |
| | Any new iconis will depends on how well the upcommings ones sell, and at the price the CRD, that is in question. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 5:46 AM |
| | A Purple Worm and a Tarrasque would make me happy. | |
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orcdoubleax
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| | 03/02/2006 6:02 AM |
| I must agree with purple worm.
I think most years we will see to Gargantuan minis. I don't expect a colossal every year.
There is a long list of things I would want, but most are extremely unlikly.
Gargantuan Spider
Hellfire Wrym
Roc
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| | 03/02/2006 6:51 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by qillan_dvra
In keeping with the Dragon theme I would love to see a Colossal Takhisis.
Sure, and what will she cost? $125? | |
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Tasmanian_tiger
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| | 03/02/2006 7:07 AM |
| My first thought is more dragons! I'm a big dragon geek. :/
But thinking over, I would point out a purple worm. It would indeed be more suited for Rp purposes. And then a dragon. :D | |
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| | 03/02/2006 7:18 AM |
| | Purple Worm all the way[:D] | |
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| | 03/02/2006 8:16 AM |
| | Actually, there was a purple worm in the latest 'Return to Undermountain' on the WOTC site. Obviously they want the purple worm as much as people on this site. [:)] | |
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| | 03/02/2006 8:24 AM |
| | Purple Worm would be a more practical, logical and easier choice to make. | |
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berus316
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| | 03/02/2006 8:30 AM |
| [quote]Originally posted by driordan
I'll second both the purple worm and the titan as good iconic monsters [quote]
Just put an old GI-JOE in shorts and you've got your titan.... :-)
I honestly can't see them putting many more of these out, there really isn't a market for them that I can think of. They are far to big to be stored, so they will need to be displayed and exactly how many DnD monsters can you put on your coffee table?
I can see them doing the Tarrasque, but even that appeals *only* to rpgers, and mostly old school ones to boot.
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| | 03/02/2006 8:30 AM |
| | Also a purple worm is wanted by most ppl. I'm not sure how well a Roc or even a Titan(even enlarged, etc) would sell because they look just too "normal". I think people want more classic monsters than anything else. I think they would be better of sticking with dragons for a little, and maybe throwing in one or two classics, like the purple worm, at least until the line takes off. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 8:52 AM |
| | Assuming the Icon line does well enough to warrant more minis, I'll bet we see nothing but dragons for the first 5 or so. WotC will hit more markets with dragons than anything else. MY guess is that they might move away from dragons if the line is succesful enough. But please, no Tarrasque, I can't think of a more unusable figure. | |
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wolfsbane114
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| | 03/02/2006 8:56 AM |
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Ackrus Posted - 03/02/2006 : 03:12:06 AM
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How about a Tarraque King of all monsters
Yeah a Tarraques would be awesome. | |
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zoroaster100
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| | 03/02/2006 9:09 AM |
| | The one figure I really want next is a purple worm. Beyond that, what I most want is the other gargantuan chromatic dragons in this order of preference: blue, white, green, red. I am getting the collossal red dragon, but I don't plan to get any other collossal Icons. If they are like the CRD, they are too big, too expensive and too useless in RPG to waste money on for me. I think WOTC would be foolish to put out any more collossals for a while, as I just don't think there will be enough demand for more collossals at a $75 price range. They should wait a couple of years before maybe doing a tarrasque. But in the meantime, there are many gargantuan minis that I think would sell much better than any other collossal (especially at the crazy prices they want/need to charge for collossals). I hope the stick to gargantuans for a while. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 9:20 AM |
| | Well, what is next for the icons depends on how well the GBD and CRD sell. There are no plans for more until after sales data is available for those two icons. | |
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Kunimatyu
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| | 03/02/2006 9:39 AM |
| I'm sure we'll see a few more Dragons, but a Purple Worm with a simple paintjob(how hard can it be?) for $20 would be about right, I think.
A Kraken on a clear bluish base with tentacles sticking up would be awesome -- in fact that's how I think they should do any aquatic minis in the future, have them sticking up on clear plastic bases so they look partially in and out of the water, since I'll bet more people have aquatic monsters surface to attack PCs or their ship, etc. | |
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Sulaco
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| | 03/02/2006 9:45 AM |
| Next up are the Colossal Rad Dragon (riding a skateboard, wearing a Paul Frnk shirt, and carrying a can of Mountain Dew Red) and the Colossal Rod Dragon (with removable 'rod' to prevent tipping over).
Seriously though, I'd like to see them do figure sets in the Icons line as well as single oversize figures. For DL fans the Heros of the Lance, for FR fans the Heroes of Mithral Hall, for old-skool gamers the characters from the D&D cartoon show, etc.
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| | 03/02/2006 9:48 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by dariustad
One should be a gargantuan monsterous spider.
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Vash
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| | 03/02/2006 10:03 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jai
quote:
Originally posted by dariustad
One should be a gargantuan monsterous spider.
I have to disagree. Remind me on IRC tonight to take a picture of my $2 Gargantuan spider that is *perfect*.
Or heck, just get a Tarantula, that even has "PC attacking action" [:o)]
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| | 03/02/2006 10:03 AM |
| Roc is summonable, so Druid PCs might conceivably get use out of it. It should be a Roc.
On a flying stand.
With a claw shaped to hold the Huge elephant mini from the next huge set.
Either a roc, or some new creature. Not a Tarrasque. | |
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monster_slayer
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| | 03/02/2006 10:05 AM |
| | Yah for the Purple Worm. | |
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JodyJ
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| | 03/02/2006 10:05 AM |
| Purple worm with alternate removeable heads.
One head purple worm
One head nightcrawler
One head neothelid
They all basically have the same body. | |
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| | 03/02/2006 10:08 AM |
| | I'd have a hard time explaining to my non-gamers buddies (not to mention gf) why I have something called a purple worm. I see that as a future embarassing convo. | |
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ehren37
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| | 03/02/2006 10:29 AM |
| I honestly couldnt see paying more than 10 bucks for a purple worm. VERY simple sculpt, simple paint job. Elder black pudding? Roc? I cant see those selling. The only colossal creature other than a dragon that I could see having a chance to sell would be the Tarrasque.
These are display pieces for the most part. A big blob or worm probably wont fly (technically a big bird would, just not off the shelves). | |
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JodyJ
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260 Posts
| | 03/02/2006 11:08 AM |
| I'd like to see Icons as 2 figures packaged together:
One gargantuan dragon and one gargantuan creature (lower CR) we'd actually use.
For the CRD especially and the to some extent the GBD, WotC gave up on Merric's Laws.
1. Large range of figures -- nope (likely just these two and the line is dead)
2. Cheap -- nope
3. Non-random -- yes
They only choose one, super cool prepainted isn't on the list.
They might sell a few but the line as a whole isn't catering to why I buy minis. Either non-random or large range but they have to be a good bargain for the buck in RPG. | |
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Zaukrie
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2007 Posts
| | 03/02/2006 11:23 AM |
| I think the worm, while iconic, is not interesting enough a sculpt to warrant the price.
I'd like to see an ULGURSTASTA.
It may not be iconic, but it is a very cool monster, which must be in the Age of Worms adventure (either now or soon). | |
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| | 03/02/2006 11:29 AM |
| | I have a feeling that all Icons will be Dragons. | |
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PaSquall
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1399 Posts
| | 03/02/2006 1:41 PM |
| A colossal purple worm would be okay. Just needs a basic paint job.
Titan ? OK but it's huge, not colossal. Wouldn't make sense to have it twice taller than the storm giant.
Tarrasque ? Would be cool but frankly I won't have a use for it in my games.
A roc ? I'd love to have it (and would possibly be the only mini that my wife wouldn't look at in disgust... possibly).
But my fave choice would be a colossal turtle dragon, that could pass for an island. I met that a few times in my games.
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