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03/06/2006 6:44 PM  
While I love the new logo, I'd like the Chimera with the white goat and white black dragon horns off of it. It depresses me every time I see that logo and then look at the one I got. Not to mention the body colors!

This is not a troll, this is a serious request.

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03/06/2006 6:49 PM  
My opinion?

I don't care. It's a nice logo and I like it. Just like I liked any previous logo. However, it's not any kind of sticking point for me.

Keep it, change it. Doesn't matter to me. Logos aren't why I'm here.

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03/06/2006 7:14 PM  
I like it personally. It'd be nice if there was 1 or 2 more D&D minis there, but all in all a wonderful picture.

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03/06/2006 10:05 PM  
This'll be the only way I get to see the Chimera for some time, so I'd just as soon keep it.

Of course, if it were to go away I wouldn't exactly be traumatized, either. I think it might be neat to see an "Good" vs. "Evil" logo, too.

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03/06/2006 10:20 PM  
I feel your pain. I actually made a comment of feeling bad when I see the logo as well, in the "War Drums paint color choices" topic. I do love the new logo, just reality hits when one realizes that the paint master and the actual product are miles apart, rather than a few yards.

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03/07/2006 8:17 AM  
I like the new logo, it draws more attention to the miniatures aspect.

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03/07/2006 8:21 AM  
Yep, I love the logo too, not cluttered and gives a nice idea of selection. It's not the crafter's fault the paint job on one of the creatures for the consumers was done poorly. So yeah, I like the logo and design, just not the paint job on the figure I have. :)

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03/07/2006 8:24 AM  
It stays [:p] because Vash = lazy. if someone else wants to change it already be my guest. [:)]

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03/07/2006 8:34 AM  
I like the logo..But my issue waht that there were 2 creatures with Black Dragon heads. :)

By the way I have yet to see a Chimera in person. Am I hearing you right? The horns arent painted?
Whats different between the paintjob on the master and the real ones we are getting?

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03/07/2006 8:34 AM  
depressed by a logo? [eyes]

just block http://www.maxminis.com/pics/maxminislogo.jpg

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03/07/2006 8:46 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

I like the logo..But my issue waht that there were 2 creatures with Black Dragon heads. :)

By the way I have yet to see a Chimera in person. Am I hearing you right? The horns arent painted?
Whats different between the paintjob on the master and the real ones we are getting?



Actually, what I'm hearing is that the whole goat head isn't painted. But then again I haven't seen it either.

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03/07/2006 8:49 AM  
The main differences, I see, are with the overall lack of any white on the actual figure, mainly brown and black. The black dragon, in the master paint, also has greyish color for the horns, the horns on the one I pulled are all black. And as seen in the logo, there is no greyish color on the actual figure portion of the dragon's neck/chest area, just everything is a flat black with white teeth, (the only actual white on the figure) and red eyes.

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03/07/2006 9:49 AM  
I like the look of the logo.

I'll have to look at mine tonight to see the colors.

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03/07/2006 10:22 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

By the way I have yet to see a Chimera in person. Am I hearing you right? The horns arent painted?
Whats different between the paintjob on the master and the real ones we are getting?

The real ones look very different. Here are the things I immediately notice:
-Goat's head is all brown. No differentiation between the fur and the horns and no white on the fur.
-Lion's head is also basically brown with an ugly black wash.
-Dragon's head has black horns. Dragon underbelly scales are the same color as the upper body scales.
-Underbelly of the beast is brown - black - brown. None of the white depicted in the photo. It looks really shody with a sharp different color seamline.
-Back legs have a poorly placed splotch of white paint. On mine, one side got a lot of white paint whereas the other side has virtually none.

All in all, what should be a great mini (perhaps the best mini in the set) looks pretty bad.

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03/07/2006 10:46 AM  
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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

By the way I have yet to see a Chimera in person. Am I hearing you right? The horns arent painted?
Whats different between the paintjob on the master and the real ones we are getting?

The real ones look very different. Here are the things I immediately notice:
-Goat's head is all brown. No differentiation between the fur and the horns and no white on the fur.
-Lion's head is also basically brown with an ugly black wash.
-Dragon's head has black horns. Dragon underbelly scales are the same color as the upper body scales.
-Underbelly of the beast is brown - black - brown. None of the white depicted in the photo. It looks really shody with a sharp different color seamline.
-Back legs have a poorly placed splotch of white paint. On mine, one side got a lot of white paint whereas the other side has virtually none.

All in all, what should be a great mini (perhaps the best mini in the set) looks pretty bad.



That's...that's atrocious....

You would think that with all the complaints here and at WotC that one of the designers would have commented by now on why so many corners were cut on this set...

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03/07/2006 10:51 AM  
new logo is sweet, except for the Chinese bunk arse tank. It would be like having a WTF up there instead of the Chimera.

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03/07/2006 10:53 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Vash

quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

By the way I have yet to see a Chimera in person. Am I hearing you right? The horns arent painted?
Whats different between the paintjob on the master and the real ones we are getting?

The real ones look very different. Here are the things I immediately notice:
-Goat's head is all brown. No differentiation between the fur and the horns and no white on the fur.
-Lion's head is also basically brown with an ugly black wash.
-Dragon's head has black horns. Dragon underbelly scales are the same color as the upper body scales.
-Underbelly of the beast is brown - black - brown. None of the white depicted in the photo. It looks really shody with a sharp different color seamline.
-Back legs have a poorly placed splotch of white paint. On mine, one side got a lot of white paint whereas the other side has virtually none.

All in all, what should be a great mini (perhaps the best mini in the set) looks pretty bad.



That's...that's atrocious....

You would think that with all the complaints here and at WotC that one of the designers would have commented by now on why so many corners were cut on this set...



I think they assume their "the next set will be better" excuse is good enough. I doubt we'll hear anything worthwhile.

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03/07/2006 10:57 AM  
my wife was even disappointed between the poster and actual mini.

as a side note I had my wife "help" me rip my case and used the poster for her to organize them in something resembling numeric order. It was fun. she had all kinds of ideas for how to play with dolls.

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03/07/2006 11:08 AM  
My chimera has splots of white on on its underside and bottom of its legs. And a little on the lions neck, but thats it.

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03/07/2006 11:33 AM  
To be honest, I'm not fond of it either. But then again I am a graphic designer and have higher standards than most.

In the future, if you cats are looking to change it again, let me know and I might be able to help (gratis, of course).

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03/07/2006 11:41 AM  
Edie - douple post...stupid slow work internet days. we hates you

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03/07/2006 11:42 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco

To be honest, I'm not fond of it either. But then again I am a graphic designer and have higher standards than most.

In the future, if you cats are looking to change it again, let me know and I might be able to help (gratis, of course).



*looks in my own profile*
*sees Graphic Designer as his occupation*

...ouch [B)]

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03/07/2006 2:15 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Vash

quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco

To be honest, I'm not fond of it either. But then again I am a graphic designer and have higher standards than most.

In the future, if you cats are looking to change it again, let me know and I might be able to help (gratis, of course).



*looks in my own profile*
*sees Graphic Designer as his occupation*

...ouch [B)]


Sorry man, no offense intended.

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03/07/2006 2:23 PM  
Personally I think it looks good. Obviously everyone will think something *they* do is better, but that may not be the case when others see it. You're always going to get some people who think they automatically can do better. So who knows. I wouldnt take it personal really.

It looks good, and its nice to see the different minis from each line in there together. Keep it until you get bored and feel like a new one, or there are more minis out and you want newer ones =)

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03/07/2006 2:27 PM  
I like that all 3 lines are in it.
And putting the Icon in the background rules.
Not much id change at all.
Maybe change the icon to the Red once we get an official WotC photo.

Dont change Vader!....I think hes perfect and isf my favorite part of the logo.

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03/07/2006 2:54 PM  
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Dont change Vader!....I think hes perfect and isf my favorite part of the logo.




Actually he was the part I was most interested in keeping (and Im not even that big a Star Wars fan. It was just the perfect angle of the perfect pose IMO.

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03/07/2006 3:06 PM  
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and Im not even that big a Star Wars fan. It was just the perfect angle of the perfect pose IMO.

Exactly...LOVE it :)

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03/07/2006 3:06 PM  
I just love that only evil creatures are on the logo, a Chimera, a Black Dragon and Darth Vader. I would add Lord Soth if there was space left as another truly evil miniature [)]

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03/07/2006 3:35 PM  
edited to make it clear I am not accusing WotC of anything illegal here, just that I'm frustrated by the difference between the pictures on the poster and the previews, and the actual product delivered.

Hey, I love it. I like the design. While I'm no graphic artist, I am in communications, and this achieves the goals I would set out:

include all 3 lines
Make them "iconic"
put the name of the site in

I'm just annoyed by the "false advertising" that is the chimera in that picture. As pointed out below, this was not a promise by WotC, so I am not claiming they totally duped me. I just think that the picture ought to reflect the spirit of the effort. That is not true in the Chimera, Khumat, and Frost Dwarf for sure. I'm sure that annoyance will go away, but right now I just had to post my thoughts.

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03/07/2006 3:55 PM  
false advertizement? [)] I don't ever recall wotc claiming you'll get what you see. They were straight and clear with the master repaints issue.

I know it is disappointing but I really don't recall if they ever ut it in print that you get what you see.

See it this way...have you ever gone to McDonald's/Burger King/etc and gotten exactly what was shown on the pictures? [)]

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03/07/2006 4:00 PM  
heh go to WotC headquarters and demand a properly painted Chimera! Unfortuantely I think a lot of peices just dont come out the way we would all hope. But as I said before, I do like the new logo. I'd love to see one more D&DM in there, but its all good. It *is* really nice to see all the lines in there, with the Black Dragon in the background. Keep up the good work =]

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