Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
    
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| You now, after seeing all the negativity, I thought that I'd toss in this thread. after all, the set can't be 100% bad, right?
I really think that, even with the gold missing, the Aspect of Hextor looks great - it's one of the most impressive rares in the whole set.
The HGB looks like a rare from any set, period.
Plenty of the commons and uncommons are pretty incredible - from the Steelheart Archer to the too-impressive Blood Ghost Berserker.
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Ackrus
Warrior
282 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 2:43 AM |
| | Aspect of Hextor. I agree quite an impressive paint job. easily the best in this set. Hill Giant Barbarian good as well. I like the paint job on Shuluth Archvillian and War Troll too. | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 2:51 AM |
| You don't have my HGB. He has so much black wash he looks like he's been working in the coal mines.
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 2:59 AM |
| | My five HGBs vary somewhat, but the darkest one doesn't look too bad - the lightest one practically has no black wash, too. | |
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| | 03/11/2006 3:19 AM |
| I have to disagree with you on Shuluth Archvillian, Ackrus. It's not that he's painted poorly, just that I don't dig the metalic purple they used for his flesh.
Minatures that I did like include the Orc Wardrummer, Arcanix Guard, Howling Orc, Sacred Watcher and Terror Wight.
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Commander
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 4:43 AM |
| | I really liked Shuluth and couldnt believe ppl didnt like Warduke. I thought both were impressive. The HGB, Girallon, and Large Duergar were all really good uncommons too in my opinion. The War Troll came out pretty good, and so did the Aspect of Hextor and pretty much the Aspect of Moradin. The Aspect of Moradin doesnt look exactly like the Master Paint, but I was still impressed with him. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2353 Posts
Australia
| | 03/11/2006 6:35 AM |
| These are the problems as I see them:
1) Some of the paint masters are too complicated. During the simplification process, things got bad. (Frost Dwarf, anyone?)
2) There's a huge variance in paint jobs. Some figures are painted much better than other versions of that figure.
3) Browns and blacks may make sense, but they translate badly to good-looking figures.
I haven't seen much WD yet, but what I've seen (mostly common + uncommon) looks fine. OTOH, I get to see the Frost Dwarf tomorrow. (Oh, saints preserve me!)
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 7:44 AM |
| I agree with the Steelheart Archer. I got to get a good look at one yesterday in a trade with Lab Monkey. It is a nice fig and rivals some of the paint jobs on rares from other sets (MFT/Adv Wiz).
I too like the Shuluth. The purple metallic paint gives it more of an alien feel. But this is me..... | |
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warchanter
Sergeant
391 Posts
Italy
| | 03/11/2006 8:39 AM |
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2) There's a huge variance in paint jobs. Some figures are painted much better than other versions of that figure.
Don't forget that these are "cheap" minis and that chinese painters will never get rich for doing them. WOTCH could easily make a better quality product IF they wanted, but they have to earn as much money as they can while spending a ridiculously low sum of money. Look at all the errors (maps, stat cards typos) they make. Problem is they'll go on like this, so It's either "we won't buy minis anymore" or "we must stay happy with what we have", even if we don't have to necessarily like it.
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2637 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/11/2006 10:23 AM |
| | My HGBs don't have eyes painted on. | |
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scifirules
Sergeant
354 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 11:28 AM |
| What's funny is that the uncommons and commons look better than some of the rares in this set. The Orc Mauler looks pretty cool for a common (wish it had better skirmish stats...), and the Blood Ghost Berserker looks pretty awesome as well.
Has anyone seen the Sand Giant? Mine looks okay, except that the eyes were painted in the wrong spot; He looks cross-eyed! | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 12:18 PM |
| | As far a good paint jobs go, I too like the uncommons. The Blood Ghost has a terriffic sculpt and a paint job that enhances it even further. The Large Duergar looks great, of course. The Hill Giant Barbarian does look better than many rares. | |
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EldritchSoul
Warrior
324 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 12:28 PM |
| | i like the inspired lieutenant myself. the detail on the cape of mine got painted, which was more than i could say for the detail of most of my rares. i agree ont he steelheart archer as well, very well done. | |
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Crystal King
Sneak
141 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 1:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by scifirules
What's funny is that the uncommons and commons look better than some of the rares in this set. The Orc Mauler looks pretty cool for a common (wish it had better skirmish stats...), and the Blood Ghost Berserker looks pretty awesome as well.
Has anyone seen the Sand Giant? Mine looks okay, except that the eyes were painted in the wrong spot; He looks cross-eyed!
Yes, I got the Sand Giant at the release tournament, and the eyes on mine are fine. Although I do remember someone saying that theirs looked cross eyed too! | |
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MackeyJ
Underboss
1414 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 1:36 PM |
| | The Aspect of Moradin looks quite good. | |
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Stabmastaarson
Sergeant
442 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 1:44 PM |
| | I liked how my Night Hag turned out. It's dark, but there's lots of neat little details. | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 2:30 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
These are the problems as I see them:
1) Some of the paint masters are too complicated. During the simplification process, things got bad. (Frost Dwarf, anyone?)
2) There's a huge variance in paint jobs. Some figures are painted much better than other versions of that figure.
3) Browns and blacks may make sense, but they translate badly to good-looking figures.
I haven't seen much WD yet, but what I've seen (mostly common + uncommon) looks fine. OTOH, I get to see the Frost Dwarf tomorrow. (Oh, saints preserve me!)
Cheers!
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 3:05 PM |
| I agree that there are several minis in this set that look fine to good. Many of them are mentioned in this thread: Blood Ghost Berserker, Steelheart Archer, Wardrummer, Ogre War Hulk, Aspect of Hextor, Arcanix Guard, etc. If only the rest of the set looked like these guys...
Finally, I disagree with the love for the HGB. It's a nice sculpt and a great choice for an uncommon, but most of mine (6 of them) have a very sloppy paint job. The brown paint from the arm-band is all over the place, as is the yellow from his loin cloth. Also most of them have so much black wash on them that they suffer from the coal mine syndrome that plagues this set.
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 3:36 PM |
| | Good paintjob minis : arcanix guard, brass samurai, steelheart archer, combat medic, ogre warhulk, HGC, derro, Shuluth, Obould. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2353 Posts
Australia
| | 03/11/2006 3:39 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu
Yes, but do you like any specifically?
I thought the Hill Giant Chieftain was fine. [:)]
Arcanix Guard looked brilliant. This is a common?
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 03/11/2006 5:06 PM |
| In general, I don't think the painting is a problem. If we'd never seen the paint masters, I doubt people would have called this a disappointing set. Most of it looks really nice ... just not as nice as the paint masters. The only truly disappointing piece, the frost dwarf, would have been fine as a common. Accordingly ... we're crying over spilt milk ... but if we looked carefully, we'd see the milk glass is still mostly full.
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 5:18 PM |
| I like the Sand Giant, Aspect of Moradin and the Warforged Barbarian in the rares. I've heard good things about the Night Hag and King Obould but mine are still in the mail so I can't judge.
The Brass samurai,HGB, combat medic,and Inspired lieutenant among others are all good paint jobs in my opinion.
and for commons Arcanix guard,Hunting Cougar, Terror Wright and Axe soldier are all good looking.
Not all WD is bad its just the bad one can be really obviously bad and tend to overshadow the good paints. So many of the rares look unfinished and,IMHO, rares should be better quality paint jobs and more consistant.
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PhibbyRizo
Warrior
207 Posts
Good Ol' Minnesota
| | 03/11/2006 5:45 PM |
| My warpriest of Moradin was employed at the coal mines as well, it seems....but it gives him a cool "down and dirty" fighter look.
I like the paint jobs on the Bloodghost, Sniggles(for the most part), and Night Hag. I think the derro looks better than a lot of commons from other sets too. | |
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thedip
Sergeant
737 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 5:52 PM |
| Myself, I think the Hill Giant Barbarian is one of the best figures in the set. It is far better than the previous Hill Giant (and it's uncommon).
Also the Inspiring Marshal, Steelheart Archer and Blood Ghost Berserker are nicely painted as are many of tne commons and uncommons.
The terror Wight is now my stand in for wights, ghouls etc. And it doesn't look lik MJ either.
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 6:06 PM |
| | Hey, is the Warbound IMpaler missing even a single paint app? | |
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tvknight415
Skirmisher
33 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 7:37 PM |
| My picks for awesome paint jobs:
Aspect of Hextor
Aspect of Moradin
Ogre War Hulk
Hill Giant Barbarian (though some have too much blackwash)
Tiefling Blademaster
Large Duergar
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 8:20 PM |
| I'd go with:
Aspect of Hextor
Shuluth
War Troll
Large Duergar
that were outstanding. Some of the other ones were definetely fine as is, so I didnt have a problem with most of them. There were just a few that make you want to cringe.. | |
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slayer1
Sergeant
597 Posts
| | 03/11/2006 9:30 PM |
| My personal faves are
warduke
hill giant chieftan
hunting cougar
axe soldier
wemic barbarian
orc wardrummer
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Warlord
11000 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 03/12/2006 2:11 AM |
| My Hill Giant Chieftain came out fine too. I'm still thinking it's missing footware may be a inside joke related to Shoe. The Arcanix Guard has one of the best common paint jobs I've seen, she could easily pass for an uncommon; or a rare from an earlier set.
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Originally posted by MerricB
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Originally posted by Ridureyu
Yes, but do you like any specifically?
I thought the Hill Giant Chieftain was fine. [:)]
Arcanix Guard looked brilliant. This is a common?
Cheers!
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zenthrus
Warlord
5101 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 03/12/2006 3:32 AM |
| I have to strongly disagree on the Aspect of Hextor. Mine has a horrible paintjob (everything is just slathered on all over the place).
Good paintjobs in this set are primarily the commons. Some uncommons and a handful of rares are also quite nice.
Orc Mauler--I have a bunch and they all look excellent
Wood Elf Ranger -- see above
Arcanix Guard -- see above
Warduke -- It's missing some steps but still looks quite nice
Large Bronze Dragon -- sure it's not as nice as the Master but it's still a nice paintjob
Orc Wardrummer -- phenomenal
Large Duergar -- I haven't seen a bad paintjob on one of these yet. This is IMO the best in terms of consistency and quality
Hunting Cougar -- It's not a very complicated paintjob but it'd definitely done well.
I think most of the disappointment in the paint for War Drums is in the rares. | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 03/12/2006 2:31 PM |
| I've got to add some praise for the Wemic Barbarian. I just saw one for the first time today and it is definitely well painted. Now I just have to fix its weapon...
I've seen every figure but the Dragon Totem Hero now and there is plenty to like in this set. If they had just done a little better the paint on some key figures (*ahem*Chimera, LBzD, Frost Dwarf, etc.), I'd be totally happy with this set. | |
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Pale Rider
Underboss
1023 Posts
London, Ontario, Canada
| | 03/12/2006 4:13 PM |
| | There couldn't be good paint jobs int his set. I saw on the internet that they all sucked! [)] <-----joke not meant to be taken seriously or as a Wizard's bash. May contain nuts or traces of peanuts. Not recommended for internal use. Keep away from pregnant women and lonely men. | |
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Pale Rider
Underboss
1023 Posts
London, Ontario, Canada
| | 03/12/2006 4:20 PM |
| *ahem*
Good nods go to
Arcanix Guard
Steel Heart Archer
Tiefling Blademaster
Large Drugar
Hunting Cougar
Blood Ghost Berserker
Lizardman Thug (I like the dark colours on him and simple paint job - this was one I was glad looked nothing like the poster)
Aspect of Moradin
Fiendish Girallon
Wemic Barbarian
King obould
Horde Zombie
Orge War Hulk
Orc Mauler
Howling Orc
Skeleton Legionaire
Inspired Lieutenant (I know some have had problems with her but minei look great!)
Frost dwar.... just kidding [)] | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11768 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 03/12/2006 4:21 PM |
| | Good paint jobs: Arcane Ballista, Large Bronze Dragon, Orc Wardrummer, Hill Giant Barbarian, Combat Medic, Orc Mauler. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11768 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 03/12/2006 4:24 PM |
| | Good paint jobs: Arcane Ballista, Large Bronze Dragon, Orc Wardrummer, Hill Giant Barbarian, Combat Medic, Orc Mauler. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 03/12/2006 5:51 PM |
| | Well there were plenty of good peices that were painted well. Its just the bad ones were more noticable than the good ones. And thats the sad truth of it. But there are several, as I mentioned before, that they definetely did a good job with. Also, some peices are painted well sometimes, and other times not. I mean that happens. Its eems the Aspect of Hextor is one of these. I have two good ones, but it seems some ppl didnt get good ones. | |
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