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03/15/2006 6:37 PM  
http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/v/gamatradeshows/gts2006/games/minis/reddragon/IMG_5061.JPG.html

Seems if you remove the flame there will be an unsightly rectangular hole in the base. :(

Also why is it red insted of black?
I know its a silly gripe, but (although necessary) the fact that it isnt round already makes the CRD stand out as not uniform with other DDM.
At least make the base BLACK!

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03/15/2006 6:38 PM  
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Originally posted by Count Dooku

http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/v/gamatradeshows/gts2006/games/minis/reddragon/IMG_5061.JPG.html

Seems if you remove the flame there will be an unsightly rectangular hole in the base. :(

Also why is it red insted of black?
I know its a silly gripe but the fact that it isnt round already makes the CRD stand out as not uniform with other DDM. At least make the base BLACK!

We don't know if that is the final base or not .... there was some question regarding that issue ...

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03/15/2006 6:51 PM  
all things considered, that's not bad if that was the only modification they did to make it removable.

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03/15/2006 7:56 PM  
And that money wasn't folded correctly!

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03/15/2006 8:58 PM  
I would have rather had it round, but honestly in the grand scheme of things I dont think it matters. It is kind of weird that its not black like everything else.

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03/15/2006 9:35 PM  
Um, repaint it and glue on a few piles of rocks?

Not that hard to do.

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03/15/2006 9:37 PM  
I don't know if it's the final base. Did WotC say it was?

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03/15/2006 11:48 PM  
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I would have rather had it round, but honestly in the grand scheme of things I dont think it matters. It is kind of weird that its not black like everything else.


I can understand that to a degree. But, if you go round, then your base is less stable and you have less room to put the actual figure over the base to help stabilize it.

There is also the issue of the actual space taken up on a map. Because of the size (4" radius, 8" diameter) there would be "unused" squares at the corners making it possible for illegal setups if someone miscounted or wasn't paying strict attention.

Square, in this case, is better (even if it is out of place).

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03/15/2006 11:48 PM  
The hole doesn't bother me, but I do hope the base is the black we are accustomed to. I like the round base as well, but the rationale behind why they used the square base makes sense (round not covering all the grids which should be filled by the dragons base size).

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03/16/2006 12:11 AM  
I believe it is square because, like the SWM AT-AT, it is possible for smaller figures to move onto some of the spaces on the base, but the base needed to be that size for stability.

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03/16/2006 4:32 AM  
Whether there is a hole or not, I'm very happy you can take off the fire. I doubt I'll really have the thing on that much, and I can deal with the hole a lot better than what I could with having to have the fire always there.

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03/16/2006 5:50 AM  
That's not a hole worth worrying about. The flame would need something to hook onto so it doesn't go falling off every three seconds like a drunk Rikka mini (sorry kiddoc). [)]

To me, a hole in a miniature would have to at least be something that goes all the way through an object, and it has to be large enough to affect the piece. Since this "hole" does neither, and only affects a small portion of the base, I don't see any problem.

It's in the base, not the dragon. [:P]

If the base is coloured, so what? If I'm dropping that much money for an icon, I don't want to see it on black. Besides, red can be repainted just as easily as black.

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03/16/2006 5:56 AM  
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That's not a hole worth worrying about. The flame would need something to hook onto so it doesn't go falling off every three seconds like a drunk Rikka mini (sorry kiddoc). [)]

To me, a hole in a miniature would have to at least be something that goes all the way through an object, and it has to be large enough to affect the piece. Since this "hole" does neither, and only affects a small portion of the base, I don't see any problem.

It's in the base, not the dragon. [:P]

If the base is coloured, so what? If I'm dropping that much money for an icon, I don't want to see it on black. Besides, red can be repainted just as easily as black.



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03/16/2006 10:45 AM  
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And that money wasn't folded correctly!

[:D] I'd forgotten all about that. It's practically DDM lore now.


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03/16/2006 11:24 AM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu

And that money wasn't folded correctly!

[:D] I'd forgotten all about that. It's practically DDM lore now.


Thanks. [:)]

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03/16/2006 12:17 PM  
If you look at this picture of the Dragon in the box, the base looks red or orange. I'd say that is the color for this dragon.

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03/16/2006 1:22 PM  
I wouldn't judge anything based upon what we saw at the con. THere is still plenty of time for these things to change. Even the figure in the box is probably just a mock-up to see what it would look like in the box ... and is probably still subject to change. I'm sure we'll get more info when the info is known ...

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03/16/2006 1:32 PM  
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03/16/2006 1:48 PM  
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Originally posted by Mindtrick

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And that money wasn't folded correctly!


What is this in reference to?


The thought that we could include a $20-bill in a $12.99 booster, and we'd get complaints that the money wasn't folded correctly.

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03/16/2006 2:03 PM  
HAW! too true! [:D]

bottom line, we do love these things, you know [)]

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03/16/2006 2:07 PM  
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And that money wasn't folded correctly!


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One day, shortly after Harbinger came out IIRC, I grew tired of all the bitching and moaning about how this was wrong and that was bad and yada yada yada and so riffled off "If WotC were to put out a box full of free money there'd still be people who'd come on the boards to complain about how it was folded." It struck a chord and stuck around.

I guess that, along with coining Nightwanker and Snig and the Sniglets, ensures my place in DDM history (cos my skill and wins records sure as hell won't). [)]

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03/16/2006 2:08 PM  
Oh I understand that the base has to be square. If you draw a circle in a 6"x6" area I dont think it would touch the corners enough to look like its occupying the spaces....No problem at all that its square.

The base being anything other than Black on the other hand is dissapointing to me. All DDM have black base. I like the uniform look of it all.

Hey if someone can complane that a goats's head is brown instead of white without getting heckeled I dont know why Im getting it for this. :(

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03/16/2006 2:10 PM  
I don't understand how anyone can try and complain the base is square and have themselves be taken seriously. If it was round, there would be open squares on the corner and then it would be even worse. If you want to make a complaint, try not to argue against simple geometry.

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03/16/2006 2:10 PM  
It's not an ultimate disaster! Just a little off-putting.

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03/16/2006 5:00 PM  
doesnt the model's base fit into another base with squares on it? For some reason, I remember that being mentioned at WF. or was that supposition?

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03/16/2006 5:05 PM  
At least the flame is removable, the rest matters less. But, for stability and flanking
purposes, the base should be square, no doubt.

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03/16/2006 5:05 PM  
doesnt the model's base fit into another base with squares on it? For some reason, I remember that being mentioned at WF. or was that supposition?

damn these addled brains

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