Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
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 | | 03/27/2006 10:26 AM |
| I recently read some form of confirmation that WDQ would feature only 8 figures in a boosters, compared to what they did with GoL. Assuming that Huges won't be legal at the Prerelease or Release tournament for WDQ, that means we're only building warbands from 14, instead of 16 figures. Two figures seems like a pretty decent dent in the warband building possibilities...yes...no..maybe so?
Were Huges legal for the Giants of Legend prerelease? I didn't attend but seem to remember that they weren't. | | | |
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Vrecknidj
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| | 03/27/2006 10:30 AM |
| I've heard that the pre-release will be 500-point, and that everyone attending will get a Huge Fiendish Spider as a bonus mini, and that this bonus mini will be playable in the event (so, for instance, if you really want to play a Huge, and you pull a crappy one, you can play the spider--of course, this makes me sad that there are some Huges in the set that are less cool--or less playable--than a Fiendish Spider).
Don't take this as truth, it's just what I've heard.
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jooquase
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| | 03/27/2006 10:30 AM |
| | Don't forget that this time arround, we might still have a commander slot, so having only 14 creatures instead of 16 might not be such a big deal with a garanty that you will have at least 2 commanders. | |
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striderlotr
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| | 03/27/2006 10:31 AM |
| | I remember something about that as well. Again, don't quote me, but it sounds right. | |
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striderlotr
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| | 03/27/2006 10:44 AM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
And by making it fiendish or half-fiend they can monkey with the stats a bit. For one, it'd get some resistances, DR, SR and a smite etc.
I don't think fiendish gets wings. That's good. Spiders with wings would be bad for my sanity.
I'd bet your right though Chris. DR and SR would make it tougher and boost the point cost. Maybe poison or virulent poison as well. I think it would be cool if it had conceal 6 as long as it does not move (or something like that), but that is really not fiendish just something cool. | |
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Benimoto
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| | 03/27/2006 11:55 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vrecknidj
I've heard that the pre-release will be 500-point, and that everyone attending will get a Huge Fiendish Spider as a bonus mini, and that this bonus mini will be playable in the event (so, for instance, if you really want to play a Huge, and you pull a crappy one, you can play the spider--of course, this makes me sad that there are some Huges in the set that are less cool--or less playable--than a Fiendish Spider).
Don't take this as truth, it's just what I've heard.
Dave
I heard about the same thing as Dave, but with a slighty different spin. How I heard it wasn't necessarily that there were Huge figures that were worse that the spider, but more that they wanted to make sure that you could build a 500 point warband with your two boosters. There's a slight possibility that you'll end up with less than 500 points in the two boosters, and the spider will push you over the edge.
I can see that. The lowest-cost huge (assuming it's epic) might be 145-160 points. If you get two of those, you only have 300ish points. I can see where getting a spider for possible inclusion in your warband could help make up some missing points. | |
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| | 03/27/2006 12:04 PM |
| Well, I heard that the prerelease is going to be 4 boosters, and you build 1000 points, and then everyone places all their maps on the same table, and then everybody plays in one big brawl at the same time, and the winner is the last one standing.
That, or the prerelease is 500-pt, 2x boosters plus a spider.
In theory, the set can be used for 200- or 500- point sealed, but there are some combinations that might occur that could force you to play under those numbers. It's relatively rare, but it could happen. | |
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| | 03/27/2006 12:27 PM |
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Originally posted by Shoe
Well, I heard that the prerelease is going to be 4 boosters, and you build 1000 points, and then everyone places all their maps on the same table, and then everybody plays in one big brawl at the same time, and the winner is the last one standing.
Typical Shoe like repsonse.[}:)]
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442 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 12:34 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Shoe
Well, I heard that the prerelease is going to be 4 boosters, and you build 1000 points, and then everyone places all their maps on the same table, and then everybody plays in one big brawl at the same time, and the winner is the last one standing.
That, or the prerelease is 500-pt, 2x boosters plus a spider.
In theory, the set can be used for 200- or 500- point sealed, but there are some combinations that might occur that could force you to play under those numbers. It's relatively rare, but it could happen.
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2122 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 1:32 PM |
| | the spider part would be cool if true. im looking forward to the next pre-release as you are guaranteed a titan. if its a promo and repainted then instead of say a black/brown spider it could be red. Fiendish would be cool if it had extra eyes or fangs | |
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striderlotr
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3370 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 1:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Shoe
Well, I heard that the prerelease is going to be 4 boosters, and you build 1000 points, and then everyone places all their maps on the same table, and then everybody plays in one big brawl at the same time, and the winner is the last one standing.
That, or the prerelease is 500-pt, 2x boosters plus a spider.
In theory, the set can be used for 200- or 500- point sealed, but there are some combinations that might occur that could force you to play under those numbers. It's relatively rare, but it could happen.
Always nice to get a straight answer... or in this case a slightly straight answer. Actually, if we got a straight answer we might not even believe it was true as we always look for something in what you post.
Thanks Shoe! | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 2:25 PM |
| | Thanks for the responses fellas (& any ladies). The huge spider idea is cool and if it helps everyone be able to field 500 points, great. Thanks for the specific confirmation Shoe...I just hope there's no last minute changes... | | | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 03/27/2006 3:15 PM |
| These are going to be expensive limited events - $40 - 50?
The question I have will be how they'll handle the map situation. Will we need to bring a map? Will they specify and provide a map for the prerelease (like the Broken Demongate for the release WD tourney?) Perhaps it'd be a huge map from an upcoming Fantastic Locations product ... | |
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Zoons
Underboss
1066 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 3:37 PM |
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Originally posted by jgsugden
These are going to be expensive limited events - $40 - 50?
I agree. This last set's pre-release was $35. I already can't afford to bring the kids.[V]
If this next one is $50 like I expect, I doubt I'll be able to afford to bring me. Bum deal as I enjoy the pre-releases as much or more than any other part of the game. | |
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Mortusbard
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| | 03/27/2006 4:40 PM |
| I agree with zoon it is exspensive but it also my favorite type of tourney to play in.
I like the idea of a Huge spider especially if it is a different paint scheme.
MAtter of fact I like just about every thing about a new set until it is about a week old. Then I start obseessing about the next set.[:D] | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 4:56 PM |
| WoTC doesn't set the prices for the release/pre-release events, that would be your local store.
Our sealed are normally 25 for 2 booster, with 30 for the starter/booster sets like Wardrums.
Talk them into dropping the price, especially if they aren't providing extra prize support. | |
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Underboss
1896 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 5:42 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kgradert13
WoTC doesn't set the prices for the release/pre-release events, that would be your local store.
Our sealed are normally 25 for 2 booster, with 30 for the starter/booster sets like Wardrums.
Talk them into dropping the price, especially if they aren't providing extra prize support.
Except, for a huge booster release, it's closer to being considered a starter/starter event.
Stores which run usually run "cheap" prereleases will probably be charging $35, most will probably charge $40, and I think they are authorized to charge as much as product cost + $10 (which, depending on sales tax rates, could be as high as $54 total).
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bonny81
Skirmisher
15 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 6:13 PM |
| quote:
That, or the prerelease is 500-pt, 2x boosters plus a spider.
Will we see the spider in european pre-release or it's only for US?
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 7:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
And by making it fiendish or half-fiend they can monkey with the stats a bit. For one, it'd get some resistances, DR, SR and a smite etc.
I don't think fiendish gets wings. That's good. Spiders with wings would be bad for my sanity.
Winged spiders?
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| | 03/27/2006 7:54 PM |
| | LOL. Just the fact that Shoe says "I heard...." cracks me up. | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 8:03 PM |
| | just as long as there are no winged spiders, I will be happy. | |
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kgradert13
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909 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 9:24 PM |
| Ours here will probably be 40, but our TO really likes getting as many people as possible for the events, he makes his money on the singles sales
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Zoons
Underboss
1066 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 9:43 PM |
| | I thought Wizards provided a case for the prize distribution. Is that the case (No pun intended)? | |
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5699 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 9:47 PM |
| Am I getting that old? [:)]
The GoL event was a release, held about 1 or 2 weeks after the set came out. It was a 500pt constructed event. 12 figs, huge figs were allowed. (no draft, no sealed) | |
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kgradert13
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909 Posts
| | 03/27/2006 10:10 PM |
| WoTC provides a case for the top 4, some locations also do door prizes and such as well.
I do think that if a location is going to charge more then the retail price, they should have some sort of additional prizes. Even only charging retail they (ones I know) are making at least 3-4 per booster based on case prices. With a captive audience, so to speak, since they are a select venue only event, advancing the game and ttrapping new players should be the goal :)
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Underboss
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| | 03/27/2006 11:29 PM |
| I was recently reading thru the wizards site looking for "alternative" rules and found the rules for the GoL release tourney. it was "make a 450 or 350 point band".. and if you faced a 450 point band with a 350 point band, you didnt have to kill the whole band.. only leave the opponent with 1 model on the table to win.
If they go with something like that, its not bad. | |
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jacksonm
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5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2006 7:47 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kgradert13
WoTC provides a case for the top 4, some locations also do door prizes and such as well.
I do think that if a location is going to charge more then the retail price, they should have some sort of additional prizes. Even only charging retail they (ones I know) are making at least 3-4 per booster based on case prices. With a captive audience, so to speak, since they are a select venue only event, advancing the game and ttrapping new players should be the goal :)
But that's just one person's opinion.
The standard format is 6 boosters for 1st place, 4 for 2nd and 1 each for 3rd and 4th. For the latest release our FLGS did the standard case prize with and addition booster they provided themselves for third place (which worked great for me since that's wehre I finished [:)]).
In addition to that for the entry fee they brought in pizza and everyone got a nice T-Shirt they had made up for the occasion. | | | |
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wicked cool
Underboss
2122 Posts
| | 03/28/2006 9:04 AM |
| if this set delivers like i think t will then ill be first in line for pre-release. im hoping for large uncommons as well again. any chance u could get in a box
1 huge rare or uncommon
1 large rare
1 large uncommon | |
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jacksonm
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5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2006 9:13 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by wicked cool
if this set delivers like i think t will then ill be first in line for pre-release. im hoping for large uncommons as well again. any chance u could get in a box
1 huge rare or uncommon
1 large rare
1 large uncommon
No chance of the double rare. As I understand it with 8 minis in this set there is only one rare per booster 6 of them huges. So you'll either get a Huge Rare or a normal one and an Uncommon Huge.
I'm sure there will still be some uncommon larges though, I doubt they'll go away. | | | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/28/2006 12:14 PM |
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Originally posted by jacksonm
No chance of the double rare. As I understand it with 8 minis in this set there is only one rare per booster 6 of them huges. So you'll either get a Huge Rare or a normal one and an Uncommon Huge.
You are wrong, WotC has confirmed a couple of months ago that WotDQ will have per booster:
1 huge, 1 rare, 2 uncommons, and 4 commons
so double rares will still be possible! Jippieeee!
D.
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2006 12:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
No chance of the double rare. As I understand it with 8 minis in this set there is only one rare per booster 6 of them huges. So you'll either get a Huge Rare or a normal one and an Uncommon Huge.
You are wrong, WotC has confirmed a couple of months ago that WotDQ will have per booster:
1 huge, 1 rare, 2 uncommons, and 4 commons
so double rares will still be possible! Jippieeee!
D.
My bad, I referenced some old information I guess. This way is much better, hopefully the loss of an Uncommon helps to keep the booster price down. | | | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 03/28/2006 3:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
No chance of the double rare. As I understand it with 8 minis in this set there is only one rare per booster 6 of them huges. So you'll either get a Huge Rare or a normal one and an Uncommon Huge.
You are wrong, WotC has confirmed a couple of months ago that WotDQ will have per booster:
1 huge, 1 rare, 2 uncommons, and 4 commons
so double rares will still be possible! Jippieeee!
D.
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Teflon Jeff
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7535 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 03/29/2006 12:29 AM |
| | Where did you find the confirmation of the rarity scheme? Everything I found implied one rare per booster, either in the huge slot, or a huge uncommon and a regular rare. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/29/2006 6:12 AM |
| Shoe said it somewhere, don't know exactly if it was on the Wizards-boards or here. Merric states the same on his site as well.
still glad DDM doesn't do Very rares, [^]
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| | 03/29/2006 10:54 AM |
| | Nice, I had tremendous luck in GoL pulling 2 rares per pack. I had more HGD's and warforged titans' than any of the uncommons. | |
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