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04/28/2006 1:58 PM  
Now THIS is how a "X-Spawn Godslayer" should look like:



Now compare to our Blue Barney here:


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04/28/2006 2:02 PM  
So...paint Barney orange? [:P]

I think Blue-Barney's trouble is he suffers from the Glabrezu's "goofy-grin" syndrome.

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04/28/2006 2:02 PM  
I kinda like the Blue Barney guy.

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04/28/2006 2:02 PM  
Yeah defintely better.

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04/28/2006 2:03 PM  
Aside from it being a new creature, I don't understand the hatred for the Bluespawn Godslayer. Personally, I think it's pretty fierce looking, and I don't really see the Barney likeness. Y'all do understand that he's got the typical blue dragon "rhino horn," but it's tough to make out because it's foreshortened in the pic, right?

(On the other hand, I'm not really sure what the point of having a double-sword is -- arguments that it's a goofy weapon aside -- if you're going to be using a shield ... )

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04/28/2006 2:06 PM  
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Aside from it being a new creature, I don't understand the hatred for the Bluespawn Godslayer. Personally, I think it's pretty fierce looking, and I don't really see the Barney likeness.



It's the big fat jowels.

Me, I'm waiting till I get it in hand before judging, as I always do. Judging the appearance of a 3D object based on a 2D image is just silly IMO.

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04/28/2006 2:07 PM  
I like it. I can see using it as a virtual siege engine in my reptilian armies, almost like the Goristo for demonic armies.

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04/28/2006 2:08 PM  
I don`t think he suddenly does NOT wield a doublehanded sword in 3D.

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04/28/2006 2:12 PM  
I actually want to see this creature in hand. I'm curious as to how it looks from different angles.

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04/28/2006 2:15 PM  
I'd prefer to see it in someone else's hands, that way I didn't pay for it... [)]


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04/28/2006 2:18 PM  
It's going to be interesting to see the mini in person, I think it might even look better from another angle. Of course how the production paint job looks will tell as well.

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04/28/2006 2:24 PM  
I agree Wayne. I mean, it's new but it looks pretty mean.

I'm also not sure that's a double-sword versus some sort of horn thing on the shield/head.

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04/28/2006 2:25 PM  
Yeah, I think if you are going to go and slay gods, you might want to wear some armor. A huge armored lizard would be way, way cool. This thing's armaments just aren't all that well thought out.

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04/28/2006 2:28 PM  
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04/28/2006 2:30 PM  
Seen from the angle of the picture he looks like he has round chubby cheeks.
And his shield is just redidulus...I think if he lost the skull shield hed be tons better looking.
And presonally I think scaley skin would have made it look better than the smooth skin.

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04/28/2006 2:35 PM  
Yeah I agree it's just the angle of the picture. It probably looks like one mean mother when you're not looking straight on at it's pseudo smile.

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04/28/2006 2:37 PM  
Hey wait a second. Something looks very familiar on the cover of the MMIV...

Take a look:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/953767200

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04/28/2006 2:38 PM  
Really, I think all the dislike is based on the fact it's using up a precious huge slot. This is only our second selection of 12 huge minis, and we're overly protective of those. The vast majority of us want to see classic monsters, not new ones.

I'm not be the bleuspawn's stanuchest supporter (even if it is a dragon), but I will certainly keep any I receive in my cases, and possibly trade for a few extra.

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04/28/2006 2:38 PM  
I like the blue guy, I just wonder what he looks like from the side and other angles. The 3d image you posted looks nice too, but I dont mind the blue guy at all.

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04/28/2006 2:40 PM  
Horn on the nose? Lightning? Thats him!

Now we know why the mini was made...Hes on the book cover!

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04/28/2006 3:11 PM  
I think it would look infinitely cooler with clear plastic saliva dripping from it's jaws. I fear it may suffer from goofy grin as well. I can't see enough of it to judge, but I think it'll be cooler than we give it credit. It can be painted red from some nasty looking hellspawn as well.

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04/28/2006 3:27 PM  
Great Amurayi, combine both of my favorite hobbies in one thread. Of course after a year of playing I finally got my first level 60 (male troll mage on the Dragonblight server named Irie), so I am just getting introduced to these dudes.

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04/28/2006 4:25 PM  
Wayne:

For me the problem is the combination of double sword with ugly, totally impractical shield.

Otherwise I don't mind it at all.

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04/28/2006 5:43 PM  
Count Dooku... you are spot on!



They are trying to introduce a new super monster type which shall be clearly recognizable.

I still would prefer a classic approach.

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04/28/2006 5:56 PM  
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It's going to be interesting to see the mini in person, I think it might even look better from another angle. Of course how the production paint job looks will tell as well.



I really think this is a production paint job. Notice that there isn't a whole lot of colors and the scales on his back appear washed in grey (not standard for master paints).

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04/28/2006 7:40 PM  
As far as I can tell, it's a production model, and it may be that the original master paint was a darker shadw of blue.

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04/28/2006 7:42 PM  
I think the piece looks good. I'm just annoyed he's taking up a huge slot which I would much rather go to a core Monster Manual creature.


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04/28/2006 7:45 PM  
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I think the piece looks good. I'm just annoyed he's taking up a huge slot which I would much rather go to a core Monster Manual creature.

That's what I was going to say! It's not that the mini is such a bad sculpt as much as it's a huge slot. I must say the blue barney thing is pretty funny however, and there is a family resemblence.

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04/28/2006 11:48 PM  
Well, just like any other set, we're going to get some "stinker" Huges. We've had stinker Commons, Uncommons and Rares (for one reason or another). If WotC put out all four Elementals, all 10 Dragons, and the Huge Giants right away, there wouldn't be a reason for us to keep buying their crack--er, minis.

You win a few, you lose a few--but hopefully you win more than you lose!

Of course, at this point, I'd consider the Celestial Trike a "win". [:o)]

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04/28/2006 11:53 PM  
I hope the problem with Barney is just the angle of the photo. Maybe the mini itself won't look as comical.

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04/29/2006 7:19 AM  
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Me, I'm waiting till I get it in hand before judging, as I always do. Judging the appearance of a 3D object based on a 2D image is just silly IMO.



Good point. The Behir ended up looking a whole lot better 'in the flesh' than it did in the picture. But then again, it's going to take a massive improvement to make this miniature look good compared to the 2D image[)].

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04/29/2006 9:59 AM  
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Well, just like any other set, we're going to get some "stinker" Huges. We've had stinker Commons, Uncommons and Rares (for one reason or another). If WotC put out all four Elementals, all 10 Dragons, and the Huge Giants right away, there wouldn't be a reason for us to keep buying their crack--er, minis.

You win a few, you lose a few--but hopefully you win more than you lose!

Of course, at this point, I'd consider the Celestial Trike a "win". [:o)]



I think everyone's point on this is that there are only 12 huge slots and they have only rolled around once a year or so. A crap huge (especially a rare one) lasts forever, while a new set (every few months) gives 24 rares so that the good outshines the bad in a quick way. You can say, "Ok, we got x,y,and z so it isn't a big deal we got z's ugly little brother with a mole," with a regular set. This way, I'll look at Ol' Blueface there for a year before getting any huge relief. Grrr.

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04/30/2006 1:19 AM  
Oh, I understand the complaints. I really do. I'm just trying to balance out the desires of the community with the reality of the business world.

Sometimes I do a better job of that than others.

Personally, I'm not exactly in love with my Nightwalkers, Fiendish T-Rexes or the Warforged Titan, but I understand that A) Those fit very well into SOME campaigns; B) The "stinkers" are as important as the proven hits and; C) Sometimes you gotta take chances on unproven concepts/figures.

It's a side-effect of the business model, an attempt to continue interest in the game, and an attempt to build the game. In order for us to keep gettin Huge sets, there must be more Huge monsters (and especially more DESIRABLE Huge monsters) for us to go nuts over. It's just the way the world works--for good or ill.

As for my uses for Blue Barney--I'll keep a couple and the rest will go to "trade stock". Who knows? In thirty years he might be worth something! [)]

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04/30/2006 4:07 AM  
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