English Ghost (OP Program Manager) Talafenix Sneak
 128 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 12:27 PM |
| Much like the TV show Deal or NO Deal... people have speculated if we will turn our Drow hero into the Epic hero he deserves.
Answer... how could we not?
So when? Soon Padawan soon. We like to make you guys drool in anticipation for a while. Like a GM playing with his players before unleshing the big boss monster on them.
Will he be in Kits or at shows> Yes. I make a good GM [}:)]
So one mystery is solved... he will be appearing... like you didn't know that [:o)]
It's all going according to plan so far... drool on [:D]
Ian | | Ian Richards RPGA Program Manager Program Manager for D&D, Star Wars and Axis & Allies Miniatures. Organized Play Wizards of the Coast | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5100 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 05/11/2006 12:31 PM |
| Yay! Service the fanboys and the complaints will (slightly) abate [:P]
The bigger question isn't whether or not Epic Drizzt is coming, it's whether or not Epic Drizzt is playable....[)] | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Almalik Warrior
 266 Posts



 Vancouver-ish, Canada
 | | 05/11/2006 12:32 PM |
| | I think the figure is already valuable enough that the card is going to have enough value without only releasing it at Gencon or another show. Hopefully it is in a retailer kit (or avilable both ways) so that it isn't too tough to get a copy. | | Champion of Aspect of Juiblex (with Oozemaster) and Aspect of Skurmsh! | |
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True_Blue Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 12:33 PM |
| | While thats good to know for those of us who have a Drizzt figure, have you taken into consideration what it will do to the already high price of Drizzt as it is? It makes basically only the people got a Drizzt early enough to have any use out of the card. Because there arent many ppl who are going to go pay $100 to use one epic figure. | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
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 The G Spot
 | | 05/11/2006 12:33 PM |
| | Darn, Talafenix-firmation doesn't roll off the tongue like Shoe-firmation. [:p] | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM | |
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Dordledum Commander
 3398 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/11/2006 12:33 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
Yay! Service the fanboys and the complaints will (slightly) abate [:P]
The bigger question isn't whether or not Epic Drizzt is coming, it's whether or not Epic Drizzt is playable....[)]
I think another question is:
will Epic Drizzt be an epic card only or a completely new Epic figure in some upcoming set?
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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English Ghost (OP Program Manager) Talafenix Sneak
 128 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 12:34 PM |
| Hey I'd play with him... his ability to.... oh wait I can't tell you... but then his huge amount... no can't tell you that either.... hummm... guess you'll have to wait [)]
Sorry... [:D]
Ian | | Ian Richards RPGA Program Manager Program Manager for D&D, Star Wars and Axis & Allies Miniatures. Organized Play Wizards of the Coast | |
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Sammael Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 12:35 PM |
| | Considering I would never, ever pay $100 for a plastic miniature, I have no use whatsoever for an Epic Drizzt card. | | Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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Username Warlord
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 | | 05/11/2006 12:37 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Ghendar
Darn, Talafenix-firmation doesn't roll off the tongue like Shoe-firmation. [:p]
But Tala-firmation does.
[)]
YUS! If it is at a Con, can someone please get it for me??? | | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5100 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 05/11/2006 12:37 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Talafenix
Hey I'd play with him
Well, sure you'd play with him...but would Fenris or Doubtofbuddha? [)]
I don't think I want to know about Drizzt's huge amount of anything....[XX(] | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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bshugg Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 12:41 PM |
| | I don't think of it as a 100$ price tag. I think of it as a reward for having faith in the game since the beginning and buying bunches of the early sets. Of course I feel kind of sad when I think of the Harbinger and Archfiends boosters I choose not to buy because I thought I had enough of them. [:(] | | Looking for someone to cosponser a midwest DDM event. let me know if your interested! Check out my brand new blog: http://bshugg.blogspot.com | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
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 The G Spot
 | | 05/11/2006 12:44 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by bshugg
Of course I feel kind of sad when I think of the Harbinger and Archfiends boosters I choose not to buy because I thought I had enough of them. [:(]
heh. I did have enough of them and still wish I'd bought more. | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM | |
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Count Dooku Commander
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 New York
 | | 05/11/2006 12:46 PM |
| I hope its just a card.
Id rather not have a Drizzt resculpt. Hes to recognizable to use him in RPG other than as Drizzt. So a 2nd one isnt high on my list of wants.
Id like to see the Epic Card for the Archfiends one though. | | Champion of the Skulk Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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True_Blue Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 12:52 PM |
| I'm worried that the epic could would only be given out at a Con. That makes even Retailer Kits epics look like they are everywhere. Do you realize just how rare it would be and cost? The epic card that is. To me, that would be just a bad bad thing. I dont want to spend $50 on ebay just for the epic card. I know you can download them eventually, etc.. but I still dont believe the epic cards should *start* out that high. Thats crazy in my opinion.
If they gave it out at a Con and in a retailer kit, then it wouldnt be so bad. I dunno, now I'm kind of worried about how much it'd end up costing to have one of those. Especially if they actually made him viable in skirmish, I highly doubt this will happen considering past epics heh, but you never know. *sigh* | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 12:55 PM |
| I think each Epic card should come with the Archfiends Drizzt.
And then they should all be sent to me..
Yes.. | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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trollbill Warrior
 176 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 1:01 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Talafenix
So when? Soon Padawan soon.
In keeping with the message board practice of reading far too much into an official Wizard post, I'm going to claim the new Epic Drizzt will have levels in Jedi Knight! | | | |
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Thousandsofminis Warrior
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:04 PM |
| | Read into it this way then? When is the next Star Wars set due out? Maybe the Drizzt epic will come out in that month? | | | |
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Sharn Inquisitor Underboss
 1623 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 1:19 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
The bigger question isn't whether or not Epic Drizzt is coming, it's whether or not Epic Drizzt is playable....[)]
Said perfectly. We know he's coming...I suspect whomever said GenCon was probably on the ball... | | | |
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Professional Fan of DDM Shoe Sergeant
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:20 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
Yay! Service the fanboys and the complaints will (slightly) abate [:P]
The bigger question isn't whether or not Epic Drizzt is coming, it's whether or not Epic Drizzt is playable....[)]
I'm pretty sure he can take Artemis 1-on-1, though if Arty gets his Backstab to work, and gets to add a few kobold miners to provide flanking bonuses for some sneak attack, Arty would be favored. There's that 60- or 70-damage backstab conceal roll that becomes very key. | | Professional Fan of DDM | |
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True_Blue Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:21 PM |
| | heh well.. you dont see many Artemis bands in epic, so I dont know how encouraging that is =) | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 12441 Posts



 The G Spot
 | | 05/11/2006 1:22 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
The bigger question isn't whether or not Epic Drizzt is coming, it's whether or not Epic Drizzt is playable....[)]
Well technically, every figure is "playable." [:p]
| | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM | |
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PatEllis15 Commander
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:29 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by True_Blue
I'm worried that the epic could would only be given out at a Con. That makes even Retailer Kits epics look like they are everywhere. Do you realize just how rare it would be and cost? The epic card that is. To me, that would be just a bad bad thing. I dont want to spend $50 on ebay just for the epic card. I know you can download them eventually, etc.. but I still dont believe the epic cards should *start* out that high. Thats crazy in my opinion.
If they gave it out at a Con and in a retailer kit, then it wouldnt be so bad. I dunno, now I'm kind of worried about how much it'd end up costing to have one of those. Especially if they actually made him viable in skirmish, I highly doubt this will happen considering past epics heh, but you never know. *sigh*
I'm not so sure. It really depends on how WotC treats it.
Go do a Ebay Search for Gen Con Dark Naga, and see what the price is for card and figure. Of course, a similar search for "edCon", has a high price.
The difference? the naga was handed out like candy, while Elminster was only produced in very limited quantities for the signing.
Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 1:32 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by PatEllis15
quote: Originally posted by True_Blue
I'm worried that the epic could would only be given out at a Con. That makes even Retailer Kits epics look like they are everywhere. Do you realize just how rare it would be and cost? The epic card that is. To me, that would be just a bad bad thing. I dont want to spend $50 on ebay just for the epic card. I know you can download them eventually, etc.. but I still dont believe the epic cards should *start* out that high. Thats crazy in my opinion.
If they gave it out at a Con and in a retailer kit, then it wouldnt be so bad. I dunno, now I'm kind of worried about how much it'd end up costing to have one of those. Especially if they actually made him viable in skirmish, I highly doubt this will happen considering past epics heh, but you never know. *sigh*
I'm not so sure. It really depends on how WotC treats it.
Go do a Ebay Search for Gen Con Dark Naga, and see what the price is for card and figure. Of course, a similar search for "edCon", has a high price.
The difference? the naga was handed out like candy, while Elminster was only produced in very limited quantities for the signing.
Pat E
Remember also, this isnt Elminster or a Naga we're talking about...
This is Drizzt... | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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True_Blue Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:40 PM |
| Hey if they hand out *lots* of them, then great. I'd be more than happy with that. But as Vash said, the Dark Naga doesnt have the draw as something like Elminster or even Drizzt.
I'd be willing to bet even if there were more Elminsters given out and less Dark Nagas, that the Elminster would be going for more. Maybe I'd be wrong, but in my opinion I doubt it.
If they release lots of them, then I'll be happy enough. I'm just worried that at Gen Con or something like that, a few ppl would actually get multiples and then they would cost an arm and a leg to get. At least Retailer Kits are sort of spread out to various areas, and we roughly can guess how many are out. Obviously not exact or anything, but lots of stores get the retailer kits. We dont know just how many will go out at Gen Con, and that sucks.
I just want to be able to reasonably get an epic Drizzt card. Anyone can reasonably get an epic card of the ones that have been in the retailer kits. While sometimes they have gone really high, I've also seen them go for Uncommons, $2-$3, etc. While thats probbaly high for what they actualyl cost, I still consider it reasonable. $20+ isnt reasonable. So I hope whatever they do, there are lots available for the demand that will show. | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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Sulaco Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:44 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Ghendar
Darn, Talafenix-firmation doesn't roll off the tongue like Shoe-firmation. [:p]
Yeah, but "Ianformation" rolls just fine.
Note that Ian said "Epic Drizzt", not an "Epic card for the existing Drizzt"... | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. ~ Terry Pratchett | |
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Hejas Sergeant
 435 Posts



 Poland
 | | 05/11/2006 1:45 PM |
| I don't care.
No... I DO care. I hate that. There is no way I could ever get this mini or this epic card.
I hope his stats suck.
;) | | ~Polish~DDM~Elite~ ;-)
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 Avatar of the Tank Newtoncain Commander
 2985 Posts



 Land of 10,000 taxes
 | | 05/11/2006 1:46 PM |
| Very nice Ian,
I can't wait to see his stats for Epic play. | | They just don't know what's good in life...Conan, tell them what is good in life. To rip the boosters. To count the minis spilled out before you, and to hear the indifference of the women... | |
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synecdoche Warrior
 252 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 1:56 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by True_Blue
While thats good to know for those of us who have a Drizzt figure, have you taken into consideration what it will do to the already high price of Drizzt as it is? It makes basically only the people got a Drizzt early enough to have any use out of the card. Because there arent many ppl who are going to go pay $100 to use one epic figure.
Maybe there will be a new Drizzt in WotDQ. Ian's post is just the kind of sneaky hint that I would expect if he were ...
(plus, so far we haven't seen many epic CG minis in WotDQ) | | Champion of the Green Hag | |
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Benimoto Underboss
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 | | 05/11/2006 1:58 PM |
| | After the peek we got at the Epic Guenhyvar cards, I'm pretty interested in Epic Drizzt. Even if you never win a tournament with him, I think he'll lead to an interesting band. | | Champion of the Rakshasa. Check out my Mini Terrain Maker, or my new Dungeon Map Maker (under development). | |
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True_Blue Underboss
 2386 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 2:01 PM |
| heh I'd be all for a new Drizzt before an epic card for the existing one. I have multiple Drizzt minis from Archfiends, that isnt the problem. The problem is how hard for newer players to get one, and even how hard it would be for ppl to get the epic card. Now the epic card could be fixed, if they released enough of them, then no problem. But for more ppl to get the mini, thats not really viable.
Some ppl see it as a reward to the ppl who have been collecting from the beginning. And thats fine. Personally I dont think there needs to be any kind of "reward". Having the minis, playing, etc seems to be the reward in my eyes. I know, your eyes are getting misty from all the sappiness heh. Anyways, but seriously I'd rather see a reward that the *whole* community can benefit from, then something only a few can.. even if they are the loyal fans who have been here years. I'd rather see the whole community gain something and be able to enjoy it =)
I really dont find Drizzt as so Unique he cant sub as a different drow. If anyone has ever read Salvatore's books, craploads of drow use the double sword style, even dual scimitars. So personally I wouldnt have a hard time putting him in as a drow boss, etc. I know some ppl dont want a new Drizzt, but I personally believe it would be for the best in the long run. | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 05/11/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by True_Blue
heh I'd be all for a new Drizzt before an epic card for the existing one. I have multiple Drizzt minis from Archfiends, that isnt the problem. The problem is how hard for newer players to get one, and even how hard it would be for ppl to get the epic card. Now the epic card could be fixed, if they released enough of them, then no problem. But for more ppl to get the mini, thats not really viable.
Some ppl see it as a reward to the ppl who have been collecting from the beginning. And thats fine. Personally I dont think there needs to be any kind of "reward". Having the minis, playing, etc seems to be the reward in my eyes. I know, your eyes are getting misty from all the sappiness heh. Anyways, but seriously I'd rather see a reward that the *whole* community can benefit from, then something only a few can.. even if they are the loyal fans who have been here years. I'd rather see the whole community gain something and be able to enjoy it =)
I really dont find Drizzt as so Unique he cant sub as a different drow. If anyone has ever read Salvatore's books, craploads of drow use the double sword style, even dual scimitars. So personally I wouldnt have a hard time putting him in as a drow boss, etc. I know some ppl dont want a new Drizzt, but I personally believe it would be for the best in the long run.
Plus a new Drizzt may help drive down the price of an old Drizzt which would aid me in getting one of the darn things to complete my collection >_< | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Almalik Warrior
 266 Posts



 Vancouver-ish, Canada
 | | 05/11/2006 3:07 PM |
| | Of course I'm sure Ian, Shoe, et al realize they can't win this one. Either he will inefficient "I can't believe they hosed Drizzt's epic card, he should be way more powerful, what was WoTC thinking?" or he will actually be useable/effective in Epic "I can't believe they made Drizzt so powerful, I need one for Epic but he costs way too much, what was WoTC thinking?". Still, I'm looking forward to the card with rabid interest.[:D] | | Champion of Aspect of Juiblex (with Oozemaster) and Aspect of Skurmsh! | |
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Kepler Sneak
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 | | 05/11/2006 3:24 PM |
| | I think a new Drizzt is needed at some point. There is absolutely no reason not to release a new one. | | | |
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Runelord151 Underboss
 1203 Posts



 | | 05/11/2006 3:53 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kepler
I think a new Drizzt is needed at some point. There is absolutely no reason not to release a new one.
Hmmmm...Ian never said that the epic Drizzt isn't for a new mini... | | | |
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jacksonm Warlord
 5560 Posts



 River City
 | | 05/11/2006 3:54 PM |
| | I'd prefer that they do some of the other Iconic Forgotten Realms personalities before doing another Drizzt mini. | | | |
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tirwin Sergeant
 460 Posts



 North Dakota, USA
 | | 05/11/2006 3:58 PM |
| | RAISTLIN pretty pleeeaaaaaase!?[:D] | | Here is my have want list: http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=tirwin Successful Trades: Irav222 (x2), Darkfather, Kaya Kenobi, conanb1, dudeeehm, Uk, Master Elminster, tmertz, Shasack, Drewskie, et39100 (x2), Gaddszooks (x4), Romers, Weinbergphp, Vaasic, Navaire, lurch_E_bean, dobblegog, cjmax, jthm, Meds x2, hellfire2, w33zrfan, unmaker, sthig, Eldarion, drowdude, DM Lackey, griffat, eryador, tsech (not sure if this is his screen name?), Jordan, entropysoda, MikeWis, HalifaxDM, Targan, Drakul, wraith428, dmindock, mythoscreature, Tenlado,Chaotic Good, Asteroidjawa, Puggins, Bdog, slapdragon, Drakkengi,WarRabbit(2), Mnpatsfan, Greymouse, Snapdragon, Isondaho, Halofurry, Krush, Ekomega, Amator, Minatoman38, + many new trades recorded by maxminis, and never had a bad trade so please help keep the streak alive, thanks! Harbringer 80/80, Dragoneye 60/60, Archfiends 60/60, Giants of Legend 72/72, Aberrations 60/60, Deathknell 60/60, Angelfire 60/60, Underdark 60/60, War Drums 60/60, War of the Dragon Queen 60/60, Blood War 60/60, Unhallowed 60/60, Night Below 60/60, DoD 60/60, I'm done listing just assume I have them all because I do, thanks. | |
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striderlotr Commander
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 | | 05/11/2006 4:05 PM |
| Ian, you need to stop teasing the poor players... you know they really can't take that much abuse.
Glad to hear the news though... and I hope the specualtions continue. I love a good speculation... | | Sean Banks Champion of Elementals Official Organizer Gen Con 05 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 06 maxminis Event | Gen Con 06 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 07 Community Event | |
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
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 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 05/11/2006 4:10 PM |
| | Talafenix, I imagine you would make a good DM. Thanks for the word. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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striderlotr Commander
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 | | 05/11/2006 4:14 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Thenameless
Talafenix, I imagine you would make a good DM. Thanks for the word.
I think he would be a scary DM... he is way to good at this. | | Sean Banks Champion of Elementals Official Organizer Gen Con 05 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 06 maxminis Event | Gen Con 06 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 07 Community Event | |
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Beer Baron Sneak
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 | | 05/11/2006 6:46 PM |
| quote:
Will he be in Kits or at shows> Yes. I make a good GM
So He Will Be In BOTH Kits AND Show At Same Time! Quick When Is Next Show?! :)
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