Mjollnir
Underboss
1487 Posts
    
Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 05/29/2006 6:49 AM |
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I've been informed by a source I consider reliable that Large figures will be appearing as commons in an upcoming set of D&D Miniatures...
You can see it on the entry of Monday, May 29, 2006 at:
http://www.3rdedition.org/merricb/mini.htm
If this is true, they are great news indeed![:)] | |
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Humble Minion
Sneak
121 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 7:04 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mjollnir
If this is true, they are great news indeed![:)]
Wait until you see what they look like before getting too excited! The SWM Yuzzem was large, common, and looked horrible in its three blocked colours with no shading... | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 7:09 AM |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1487 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 05/29/2006 7:45 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Humble Minion
quote:
Originally posted by Mjollnir
If this is true, they are great news indeed![:)]
Wait until you see what they look like before getting too excited! The SWM Yuzzem was large, common, and looked horrible in its three blocked colours with no shading...
I want to believe at least some would be enough worthy...
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
Ahem. <-link.
Oooppss! Sorry there, Sammael. Seems I didn't realize about it [:I] | |
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Cheddar Bearer
Warrior
298 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 9:17 AM |
| | Hmm must have missed that discussion first time round. Sounds good definately want a large common spider or other vermin, although other really useful large commons are a bit hard to think of right now. | |
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IHawk
Underboss
1054 Posts
Lisle, Illinois
| | 05/29/2006 9:35 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Humble Minion
quote:
Originally posted by Mjollnir
If this is true, they are great news indeed![:)]
Wait until you see what they look like before getting too excited! The SWM Yuzzem was large, common, and looked horrible in its three blocked colours with no shading...
I'd bet that choices for large commons would be in the range
of large viper or something like that...little coloration and
no shading necessary. I would not be dissapointed in anything
like that. Large Astral COnstruct could be cool, but maybe too
powerful for a common slot 70 hp - fearless, 2 attacks for 15 dam.
actually that sounds pretty good for an uncommon :) | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6755 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 9:41 AM |
| I'm really hoping they don't go overboard with this. There are a few things we need as commons at large sized, but not that many. Guess, we'll see.
And hopefully this doesn't increase the price. | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 9:49 AM |
| | Unless this is in another huge set, I can see storage space becoming an issue with large commons. Still, as long as they're well-picked, I certainly don't mind. Many animals, vermin, or monstrous humanoids could be a good choice for a large common. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3394 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/29/2006 11:12 AM |
| Please let it be a Spider!!!
D. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 05/29/2006 11:17 AM |
| | As I said before it would be okay with a couple things like vermin and perhaps horses but there are few larges I would want in the common frequency. | | | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 11:29 AM |
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Originally posted by Dordledum
Please let it be a Spider!!!
D.
I'd say no large, common spiders please. Eight legs will not make for a simple miniture that looks decent, if you want those find some Halloween decorative spiders. Secondly, it could absolutely destroy any value the Dragoneye rare has far more than making a new large spider at uncommon.
Large animals would be OK and I could see several other large creatures with simple forms at common. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3394 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/29/2006 2:28 PM |
| I absolutely do not care for the value of older miniatures. I paid $80 for my LSD, but if a new Large Silver Dragon type of miniature would be released I'd be happy for everyone who can get their hands on the figure for less then that. a new large spider is a must for the RPG-crowd, uncommon would be fine, but Common would be great!
A few other things that they could make great commons for:
horses, dire wolves, scorpions, snakes, worms, pack lizards, etc.
D. | |
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yack
Commander
3261 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/29/2006 2:31 PM |
| Dordledum,
I agree with you, if you are in this game for $$ value I think later on you will be depressed cause yes there will be other versions of older mini released. The spider is a great example,or look at the troll. This is minis not comics. [:p]
But I also agree a spider is so much easier going too a kids store and buying them up and just gluing them on a base. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3394 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/29/2006 2:51 PM |
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Originally posted by yack
Dordledum,
I agree with you, if you are in this game for $$ value I think later on you will be depressed cause yes there will be other versions of older mini released. The spider is a great example,or look at the troll. This is minis not comics. [:p]
But I also agree a spider is so much easier going too a kids store and buying them up and just gluing them on a base.
I hear you and deep inside I know you are right. But I still want them to be real DDM figures nevertheless. [|)]
D. | |
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Ackrus
Warrior
282 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 4:44 PM |
| | Large commons. Awesome! For those doubters at least a few will look cool. I love large pieces. Great idea to make some of them common. [:D] | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5091 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/29/2006 4:55 PM |
| Khumat has 3 paint steps and he's a rare [:P]
There really aren't that many Large critters that would make for good common minis. Horses? Maybe. Vermin? OK. Reptiles? Snakes would be OK (especially another yuan-ti abomination [:P]). Much else? Ummm...uncommon large minis are perfectly fine for the vast majority of critters. I wanted a dozen fiendish girallons. They were uncommon rather than common. It was cheap and easy to acquire the requisite number. Uncommon larges are perfectly adequate. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 5:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Nobody Important
I'd say no large, common spiders please. Eight legs will not make for a simple miniture that looks decent, if you want those find some Halloween decorative spiders. Secondly, it could absolutely destroy any value the Dragoneye rare has far more than making a new large spider at uncommon.
I think paintjob is generally a more important factor than sculpt, though spiders can be sculpted easily enough -- otherwise you wouldn't see all those plastic spiders come Halloween.
With regards to your latter concern...well, I have a Dragoneye spider, I'm glad I have a Dragoneye spider, and no, I really don't care that its value drops.
The only reason pieces like that (troll, ogre, spider) have such inflated values is because they're rarer than they should be. Fixing that means prices drop. Get over it. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 5:37 PM |
| Prices of older minis won't decrease, because collectors want THE old mini, the newer one doesn't proxy for them. We have had ogres, trolls, and the prices of the harbinger ones haven't dropped at all.
As a RPGer, some large commons would be fantastic : troll, ogre, giants, large animated statue, spider... | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6755 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 6:19 PM |
| The more I think about it, the less inclined I am to think that Large Commons are a good thing. At this point I'm looking for variety, I honestly can't imagine getting 20 Ogres or Trolls in 1 set that all look alike.
Spiders? Cool.
Undead Giants? Cool.
Cavalry? Ok..
Ogres/Trolls? Maybe...
Standard Giants? Maybe...
Dire Animals? No. Unless it's a Dire Wolf.
Large Elementals? No... how many do we need? We already have 3 large earth elemental variants.
Horses? No. Skirmishers won't use em, so they'll be easy to trade for.
What does that leave? Dire Animals? I have 6 Dire Bears for trade, and they never move, the only one that I can think of is the Dire Wolf, that would be a good Large Uncommon. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 6:46 PM |
| | Honestly I'm just worried that we'll see a price increase because of it. And that doesnt thrill me at all. I wasnt happy about the 30% increase that we saw last time. If they can give us large commons without giving us anything negative, then I'm fine with it. If not, forget about it in my opinion. | |
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Warlord
5689 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 7:05 PM |
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Originally posted by True_Blue
Honestly I'm just worried that we'll see a price increase because of it. And that doesnt thrill me at all. I wasnt happy about the 30% increase that we saw last time. If they can give us large commons without giving us anything negative, then I'm fine with it. If not, forget about it in my opinion.
I think we will be seeing price increases, as we already have with WotDQ (GoL was 9 minis at 20$, but WotDQ is 8 minis at 20$). | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 7:38 PM |
| | I'm meaning more like during "regular" sets. The Huge boosters will vary, in my opinion. But I really really dont want to see an increase from $12.99 to something else. I already cut down on a lot of my booster buying because of it. If it went up more, I'd definetely get even less. The main reason I just dont buy random boosters is because of the price. I love getting them and finding out what I got, but sinking $14 after tax just isnt worth it. If it was even more, like $15-17, there's no way. Thats almost $20 just for a few figures. | |
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Luisjoey
Underboss
1704 Posts
Caracas Venezuela
| | 05/29/2006 9:37 PM |
| Nice we gonna get the D&D yuzzem!
Yuzzem was used in SW ROTS to prevent people taking the heaviest boosters containing AT-RT and Grievious Wheelbike.
I don´t know how it goes in a Huge set for D&D. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 11:30 PM |
| Mostly the Vermin types are the Large Commons that I would want to see. Ogres are done pretty regularly, and we've got another Large Uncommon coming up.
Are Giants really that common of an encounter that they need to be commons? I would think that Large Uncommon would work well enough for them as well.
As for the value of the DRA Large Monstrous...I've got FIVE of the little bastards. Produce another one, please. I don't care that the value will drop (because it will drop, significantly). I prefer the values to be a little more reasonable--I'm not expecting to put the kids through college on my DDM collection (because I'd have to sell it to do that).
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opus69
Sneak
136 Posts
| | 05/29/2006 11:47 PM |
| Geez - common larges?
I remember how thrilled people were when the uncommon larges came out - lots of excitement. This seems a little less impacting - I mean, look at it - one common slot per booster (4 minis per set) would certainly make opening them up a lot more exciting.
A common equiceph would be nice to go with my equiceph skeletons.
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 12:05 AM |
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Originally posted by Luisjoey
Nice we gonna get the D&D yuzzem!
Yuzzem was used in SW ROTS to prevent people taking the heaviest boosters containing AT-RT and Grievious Wheelbike.
I don´t know how it goes in a Huge set for D&D.
Didn't stop me. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 12:05 AM |
| Part of it is that we're giving data that's significantly skewed. Many (perhaps even the majority) of DDM purchasers here are "by the case".
Four Large Commons per case (assuming a single LC per set) times the number of cases. For me, that's between 3 and 5 for most sets. I only keep the first 6 of 98% of figures (Horde Zombies, Terror Wights, Abyssal Maws, Hell Hounds and Dire Rats are my weaknesses). Unless it's something along those lines, I'll only keep six (at most)and the rest will fall into trading stock.
A lot of folks don't want to trade Commons/Uncommons unless they're working a much larger deal--which pretty much means that those figures stay in peoples trading bins WAY too long.
No, Common Large is pushing things a bit too far IMO. Especially considering how easy it is to gather Large Uncommons. | |
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Darastrix Maekrix
dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 12:10 AM |
| | I wouldn't mind, but only if it was something we could use a decent amount of, like a large spider or scorpion. | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 12:30 AM |
| Some of my Yuzzems are better painted than others.
but I would actually soupport a common ogre if it were a totally generic one. vermin seems like the best bet, though. | |
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qillan_dvra
Underboss
1588 Posts
Oztraylya
| | 05/30/2006 12:59 AM |
| Snakes .... let it be Snakes ...
and Spiders .....
and Oozes .... oh my! | |
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Thenameless
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11587 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/30/2006 1:01 AM |
| | Large commons. Wouldn't this be a bit expensive to produce at the same cost per booster? I don't really know, but it's more plastic, and more painting for sure. | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 05/30/2006 1:16 AM |
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Originally posted by Thenameless
Large commons. Wouldn't this be a bit expensive to produce at the same cost per booster? I don't really know, but it's more plastic, and more painting for sure.
The cost of plastic is next to nothing. The question is the cost to paint, and simple paint jobs can be large or small. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3394 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/30/2006 4:36 AM |
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Originally posted by qillan_dvra
Snakes .... let it be Snakes ...
and Spiders .....
and Oozes .... oh my!
Oozes is a good one, I can see them doing a large uncommon Black Pudding or Gray Ooze.
D. | |
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Arandae
Sergeant
713 Posts
UK
| | 05/30/2006 6:45 AM |
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Originally posted by Dordledum
Oozes is a good one, I can see them doing a large uncommon Black Pudding or Gray Ooze.
I thought the Black Pudding is huge (along with the Brown Pudding), and the Gray Ooze is only medium (?). Of course, I only have 3.0 books, so it might have changed...
I agree with others that snakes and spiders would be great. I don't really want to buy toy figures and spend time re-basing them - and they still won't have the right look anyway. Nope. DDM large vermin would work for me.
quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
Part of it is that we're giving data that's significantly skewed. Many (perhaps even the majority) of DDM purchasers here are "by the case".
So is the implication of this that maxminis will tend to be more negative towards common larges than the wider DDM customer base?
I buy singles, not cases. Common singles just mean cheaper miniatures for me [:D], and (I believe) a good proportion of those likely to made as commons would be ones that are useful for RPG. (Or is that just wishful thinking?[)]) | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10147 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 05/30/2006 7:17 AM |
| | I'd love to see some nice looking large commons | | | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 9:10 AM |
| | Well large commons would be a huge pain to store. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 05/30/2006 3:32 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by robby
quote:
Originally posted by striderlotr
Well large commons would be a huge pain to store.
Agreed. But if its a cool enough figure, it will be well worth it.
I agree. Heck, I'd rather have cool larges than more TanarYucks which I also have stored. | |
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