KAGE
Sneak
150 Posts
    
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| Man the more I look at those dragonspawn the more they look stupid!
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how's that for short and sweet
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 3:59 AM |
| | I like dragonspawn. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 4:16 AM |
| | I like pie. | |
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Gristlemane
Sergeant
623 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 6:21 AM |
| I don't like them now, but I think we should wait until we have the minis in hand and have the Monster Manual 4 before we dismiss them.
They are really better than Abishai for one big reason. All of the Abishai are basically the same. They even have exactly the same spell-like abilities. With the Slaadi, you can make an enemy "adventuring party" out of a green, blue and red. Some Slaadi are beatsticks, other spellcasters. But the Abishai are all boringly similar.
So the Dragonspawn are nice because they are similar to Slaadi in function. They are not traditional, but would it really be any better if they retconned the Abishai to work like the froggies? I don't think so.
I probably won't use them, but they are a much better idea than dear old WTF. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5101 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/31/2006 7:19 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D] | |
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Skarnn
Sneak
169 Posts
Long Island NY
| | 05/31/2006 7:26 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!! | | | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 7:36 AM |
| | I'll definetely find a use for it. Since I usually DM in DL, I'll use it as a dragonspawn from DL. The Black Dragonspawn in Dragonlance are usually created in many different shapes, so this could be one of the abominations and such. So I definetely have a use for it. I actually think its one of the better ones we're getting. I mean the red one is just a red lizard, and the Blue Dragonspawn is a Huge, which for some reason I find annoying. So I'm pretty happy with this one. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 8:12 AM |
| | for what I've seen I am not impressed with the dragonspawn, but at least I can proxy the black as a mino, and that is not a bad thing. Young mino (medium sized black spawn right?). | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 05/31/2006 8:20 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)] | | | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3398 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/31/2006 8:22 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)]
I don't want a pie miniature.
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Orion72
Underboss
1917 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 8:25 AM |
| KAGE, you read my mind! [:)]
Blue Barney, Black Minotaur, Jurassic Redspawn... I shudder to think what the other two will be like.
Best case scenario for me, they'll be Common medium-sized soldier types which I would actually want in large numbers (or at all). Worst case... see "shuddering" above. | | | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 05/31/2006 8:28 AM |
| | Perhaps some strange half-dragon half-minotaur hybrid. [:p] | | | |
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yack
Commander
3270 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/31/2006 8:45 AM |
| | its about the only dragon spawn I like cause it can pass for a half-dragon. | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 9:24 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
Perhaps some strange half-dragon half-minotaur hybrid. [:p]
Starnge? Thats normal compared to some of the other things Dragons boink. | |
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Username
Warlord
5690 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 9:34 AM |
| | So far, I've only liked the redspawn. Here's the hopin' the green and white don't let me down. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 9:35 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)]
I don't want a pie miniature.
D.
Pie is a racial weapon for orcs. See Orc and Pie module. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 9:40 AM |
| Black Berrypie
Blue Berrypie
Red Berrypie
Green Berrypie?
White Berrypie?
See pretty much anything can be templated.
I don't like the Black Dragonspawn's rigid pose, looks like the Blackblade Goblin's big stoic brother... with horns. | |
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Zozo
Warrior
218 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 11:51 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)]
I don't want a pie miniature.
D.
I do. [:D] Half-Fiend Apple Pie. A burning hot apple pie "Flying" towards you, scary stuff. | |
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Arandae
Sergeant
713 Posts
UK
| | 05/31/2006 12:30 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
Black Berrypie
Blue Berrypie
Red Berrypie
Green Berrypie?
White Berrypie?
See pretty much anything can be templated.
That's just typical - only mention pies from the Berrypie Manual I, why don't you! I play a Vampiric half-puff-pastry were-Pumpkin Pie in the Vegetable Pie-world (TM) Campaign setting. Why should my needs always be overlooked? [:(!] | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 12:47 PM |
| | I'm not convinced it looks like a minotaur so much as a dude in a rubber suit. | |
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jedijon
Sergeant
474 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 1:06 PM |
| Why is it that pie always makes me laugh?
Oh well--I work in a frostings factory, so I can confirm the rumors of a "pastry" themed set, co sponsored by Kellogs/Ego (jealous of Dairy Queen's prominence in this set) for set 12 called "UnSyrup-ed".
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 05/31/2006 1:17 PM |
| Just a reminder: Pie comes in many shapes, sizes, colors, consistencies and flavors. If you think pie is 'good', you really need to distinguish between a boston cream pie, a cherry pie, a mincement pie or an 18 year old model. Each has a place, but they are not interchangeable. A problem with one pie is not necessarily going to be true of all pies.
Oh, and the same goes for dragonspawn.
Personally, I don't get all the hub-bub about the dragonspawn. They're new creatures. We know very little about them. Just like every monster in the MM III, it will take some time (years) before people accept them as a core part of D&D.
For RPG, they could still grow to be very popular. We have nto even seen the stats, yet.
For skirmish, they could be very strong or very weak, just alike any other figure. We'll need to wait and see how they pan out.
Based upon pure looks... well, you can draw your own conclusion. However, I must say that I thought the Chraal looked ridiculous when I first saw it in the MM III. Now, it seems pretty reasonable to me. Time will likely change (open-minded) perspectives on most of the MM IV monsters we see. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3398 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/31/2006 3:10 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Personally, I don't get all the hub-bub about the dragonspawn. They're new creatures. We know very little about them. Just like every monster in the MM III, it will take some time (years) before people accept them as a core part of D&D.
For RPG, they could still grow to be very popular. We have nto even seen the stats, yet.
For skirmish, they could be very strong or very weak, just alike any other figure. We'll need to wait and see how they pan out.
Based upon pure looks... well, you can draw your own conclusion. However, I must say that I thought the Chraal looked ridiculous when I first saw it in the MM III. Now, it seems pretty reasonable to me. Time will likely change (open-minded) perspectives on most of the MM IV monsters we see.
Indeed, don't throw/trade them away immediately. You can still do that in three years. Who knows, by then every campaign includes dragonspawn.
D. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 5:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Arandae
Why should my needs always be overlooked? [:(!]
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Cheddar Bearer
Warrior
298 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 5:36 PM |
| | Ahh pie based parady/satire how many other forums offer that? Seriously though no major objections to the dragonspawn models but I need to see MM4 before I really decide whether I like them. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/31/2006 5:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)]
I don't want a pie miniature.
D.
Pie is a racial weapon for orcs. See Orc and Pie module.
Pie times dionysius...er...that wouldn't be something I would be interested in either. Just pie a la mode, TYVM. | |
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Gristlemane
Sergeant
623 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 7:27 PM |
| | So if you randomly mention pies it gives everyone a great excuse to pad their post counts? Does cake have the same effect, or is there some quality of pie-ness that involves post padding? | |
It's deja vu all over again. | |
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I Tyrant
Warrior
178 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 7:33 PM |
| quote:
They are really better than Abishai for one big reason. All of the Abishai are basically the same. They even have exactly the same spell-like abilities. With the Slaadi, you can make an enemy "adventuring party" out of a green, blue and red. Some Slaadi are beatsticks, other spellcasters. But the Abishai are all boringly similar.
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kyrin
Commander
3168 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 8:14 PM |
| You people keep talking about pie.
Yet, I see no pie.
You're starting to make me hungry... er, angry.
I don't like Dragonspawn either. And a MM III argument cuts little ice with me. I've been revising my Random Encounter Tables, and I found very little I can use in the MM III. I may not actually buy MM IV. So many monsters, so little time.
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 9:06 PM |
| Theres a blackspawn ninja in the RHoD that this mini is perfect for don't know about it being usefull for anything else though but it looks okay to me.
now that thats taken care of where's this pie i've been hearing about [?] | | | |
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KAGE
Sneak
150 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 10:56 PM |
| | With all the stupid dragonspawn, i'd say Tiamat gives up her pie a little to easy, and should keep her le....ah....family show....ah oven mitts in the drawer! | |
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Grey Dragon
Sneak
75 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 11:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
quote:
Originally posted by Skarnn
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
I like pie.
Can't argue pie [:D]
I too like pie - especially a-la-mode!!
I'd rather have pie a-la-mode than a black dragonspawn[)]
I don't want a pie miniature.
D.
Only if the pie is also evil. [)] | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 11:57 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
If you think pie is 'good', you really need to distinguish between a boston cream pie, a cherry pie, a mincement pie or an 18 year old model. Each has a place, but they are not interchangeable.
They're not interchangeable?
oh. ummm. oops. That could cause some problems...
Seriously, though. Blue Barney could be a Half-Dragon mixed with a Huge giant of some sort. Sure, it's pretty thin, but it works.
Maybe. | |
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 05/31/2006 11:57 PM |
| | What? No Half-Dragon Pie of Legend with a Warforged Ice cream follower? [)] | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3398 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/01/2006 12:43 PM |
| Just got a copy of Dragon 344 from my FLGS today. After seeing the picture in there I don't think the blackspawn is that bad at all. It's the same picture as from the website but better resolution and stuff. I change my opinion: I kinda like the little black guy!
D.
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/01/2006 1:40 PM |
| | yeah, um... what KIND of pie? | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/01/2006 1:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Gristlemane
So if you randomly mention pies it gives everyone a great excuse to pad their post counts? Does cake have the same effect, or is there some quality of pie-ness that involves post padding?
I don't know. It might be... SEXUAL INNUENDO | |
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zhanteel
Sneak
173 Posts
| | 06/01/2006 3:19 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu
quote:
Originally posted by Gristlemane
So if you randomly mention pies it gives everyone a great excuse to pad their post counts? Does cake have the same effect, or is there some quality of pie-ness that involves post padding?
I don't know. It might be... SEXUAL INNUENDO
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