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06/01/2006 12:42 AM  
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Next week: Something to do with Scarlet, but not the Brotherhood, and something to do with Bane, but not Xvim. I'll applaud those who figure out this one.


Alright folks, let's get cracking!

I'm going to say I hope the Scarlet is a Scarlet Corsair from Stormwrack ... http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20050805b&page=1

Which would mean ... PIRATE!!!!

But maybe I'm just hopeful. It would make my wife happy to know the first pirate mini produced was female ...

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06/01/2006 12:51 AM  
The first pirate mini was male = Orc Raider from Archfiends. How else can you explain the bandana? [:P] Yaaarrr!

I wish it had to do with Xvim. I could use some beasts of Xvim. Alas....

Maybe next weeks mini will be a member of the "Scarlet Sisterhood of Bane, not Xvim"? [:o)]

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06/01/2006 1:00 AM  
Hmmm, maybe something to do with Gods that helped Bane? Oooooh, or something Zhentish?

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06/01/2006 1:01 AM  
Isn't there some kind of monk in the Red Hand of Doom that wears red or something? I don't have the adventure, so I'm not sure.

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06/01/2006 1:03 AM  
Doom Fist monks (clerics...well, anything Doom Fist) would be pretty sweet. They're associated with Tiamat, though, not Bane. Isn't Bane a Forgotten Realms deity?

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06/01/2006 1:22 AM  
Gee, the first one seems pretty obvious to me...

Miss Scarlet, Femme Fatale

Her special abilities will include Conservatory Setup and the mini will show her wielding a lead pipe. [:D]


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06/01/2006 1:57 AM  
In all seriousness...

I really hope you're right about the Scarlet Corsair. A pirate would be good. A female pirate would be better, especially if she were to have pale skin and red hair, and be dressed in flashy pirate clothes. And, heck, as long as I'm dreaming, lets make her Chaotic Good, make her an ex-Monk, give her a shock rapier, and call her Captain Jil Kestrel. (Yeah, it's a former character of mine. And my description might not be too far off the mark-- the illustration from Stormwrack at least has the hair and skin right, although it's more brutal and less stylish than I'd really prefer.)

As for the second part... I think Shoe's clue is implying that it has nothing to do with the FR deity Bane, but rather some other use of the word. Of course, the fact that he spelled it with a capital "B" implies that it's being used as some sort of proper name. Is there anything in D&D besides the FR deity that uses the word "Bane" as part of a proper name or title?

Lastly, I wonder if there isn't a "hidden" third clue in that final line, a clue centering on the word "applaud". Not sure what that would refer to, though. Some sort of performer, maybe? Perhaps a Lillend?

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06/01/2006 2:02 AM  
Shoe needs to start giving fake hints from now on. The ones we're already getting are absurd (Taxidermy?!?!)


Examples:

Next week's preview will have something to do with the letter X. or maybe G. or maybe both.
(answer: preview about orcs.)

For next week's preview, we've decided to focus on something commonly associated with druids. Elf druids, to be precise.
(answer: Medium Blue Dragon and a new Ogre)


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06/01/2006 2:08 AM  
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Doom Fist monks (clerics...well, anything Doom Fist) would be pretty sweet. They're associated with Tiamat, though, not Bane. Isn't Bane a Forgotten Realms deity?


They're also Hobgoblins. Hobgoblins might have scarlet colored skin in addition to them being in RHoD. We've also heard rumors of multiple RHoD minis being designed--this would tie in nicely.

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06/01/2006 2:09 AM  
Bane doesn't necessarily have to refer to the god, you know.

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06/01/2006 2:10 AM  
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Isn't there some kind of monk in the Red Hand of Doom that wears red or something? I don't have the adventure, so I'm not sure.


From http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/20060210a we know that "Some of the adversaries you may see as miniatures include the Doom Fist monk, the Blood Ghost berserker, the Kulkor Zhul sorcerer, and the hobgoblin warpriest."

You've got me on the Xvim clue. If it wasn't so similar to the Purple Worm, I'd guess that maybe a Banelar Naga could be the missing huge mini. But I don't think we'll get two huge, purple, serpent-y creatures in one set.

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06/01/2006 2:19 AM  
Who's Xvim?

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06/01/2006 2:20 AM  
It's a bit of a stretch, but I suppose the "Scarlet" clue could be a reference to Gone With the Wind-- maybe a Huge Air Elemental? Okay, so it's actually a lot of a stretch...

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06/01/2006 2:22 AM  
no, that would be the huge fire elemental again. As well as somebody else with the Enslave ability.

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06/01/2006 2:24 AM  
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It's a bit of a stretch, but I suppose the "Scarlet" clue could be a reference to Gone With the Wind-- maybe a Huge Air Elemental? Okay, so it's actually a lot of a stretch...



Taffy Elemental? [:P]

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06/01/2006 2:24 AM  
Or the burning of Atlanta...Did the Union troops use Mephits or Elementals for that?

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06/01/2006 2:26 AM  
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Isn't there some kind of monk in the Red Hand of Doom that wears red or something? I don't have the adventure, so I'm not sure.


From http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/20060210a we know that "Some of the adversaries you may see as miniatures include the Doom Fist monk, the Blood Ghost berserker, the Kulkor Zhul sorcerer, and the hobgoblin warpriest."

You've got me on the Xvim clue. If it wasn't so similar to the Purple Worm, I'd guess that maybe a Banelar Naga could be the missing huge mini. But I don't think we'll get two huge, purple, serpent-y creatures in one set.



At least I tried to remember something from that adventure! I know it's odd that I don't have an adventure with a dragon theme, but I wasn't *that* impressed with it. (Maybe it's why I stick with Dungeon.) *shrug*

I think it's a decent guess. [:P]

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06/01/2006 2:29 AM  
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Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer

Or the burning of Atlanta...Did the Union troops use Mephits or Elementals for that?



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06/01/2006 2:30 AM  
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no, that would be the huge fire elemental again. As well as somebody else with the Enslave ability.


[:D]

Or maybe a Union Pyromancer and a Spoiled Debutante...

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06/01/2006 2:37 AM  
Xvim is the FR god Bane's son and incarnation on the mortal world or something like that. So maybe its something that only has to do with Bane and not his son?

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06/01/2006 2:41 AM  
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Or the burning of Atlanta...Did the Union troops use Mephits or Elementals for that?



Wasn't the Union, it was Confederates, burning cotton in the streets so the Union wouldn't get it. Turns out that strategy works better when you burn the cottom OUTSIDE the city...

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06/01/2006 2:43 AM  
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Xvim is the FR god Bane's son and incarnation on the mortal world or something like that. So maybe its something that only has to do with Bane and not his son?



It's more than that-- after Bane's death, Xvim was the agent of his rebirth. Essentially, Xvim was a "seed" of sorts that allowed Bane to be reborn from death and reclaim his power. In a very real sense, Xvim was Bane, which is why I think "Bane, but not Xvim" means "not the FR Bane".

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06/01/2006 2:47 AM  
Hmm, looking at the books listed in the WotDQ product description, one sees Races of the Dragon.


Maybe it's the bane of an enemy? The Dragonborn certainly fit that description as banes of the scions of Tiamat.

Tossing another guess on the Barbie. It appears someone summond the Huge Fire Elemental BBQ Squad.

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06/01/2006 2:52 AM  
it's Barbie? As in, Barbie and ken?

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06/01/2006 3:38 AM  
Barbie, as in "Evermeet Wizard."

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06/01/2006 4:00 AM  
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Hmm, looking at the books listed in the WotDQ product description, one sees Races of the Dragon.


Maybe it's the bane of an enemy? The Dragonborn certainly fit that description as banes of the scions of Tiamat.

Tossing another guess on the Barbie. It appears someone summond the Huge Fire Elemental BBQ Squad.



Maybe its the FR character Gareth DragonBANE Paladin of Ilmater and the slayer of Tiamat

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06/01/2006 4:25 AM  
Given the fact that some of the minis to be previewed were changed because of the leaked minis shown in Preview X, I'm guessing we'll see two more of those.

Scarlet could be the red lizard creature in Preview X r1c3, which we suspect to be a Redspawn _something_.

Bane could refer to the _insert creature type here_ Bane special ability of some minis, and given the theme of the set, I think we might see Evil Dragon Bane (Melee attack +2, melee damage +10 Magic against evil Dragons). What better figure to have it than the (supposed) Sacred Warder of Bahamut which some suspect is the mini pictured in Preview X r1c1.

As for the applause, well... maybe it means that we'll be seeing a figure soon that can cast the silence spell [}:)][)]

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06/01/2006 6:13 AM  
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Doom Fist monks (clerics...well, anything Doom Fist) would be pretty sweet. They're associated with Tiamat, though, not Bane. Isn't Bane a Forgotten Realms deity?



Would fit:

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06/01/2006 6:18 AM  
Maybe its a bard...along the lines of Will Scarlet from Robin Hood. [xx(] Who knows...

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06/01/2006 7:29 AM  
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Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer

Or the burning of Atlanta...Did the Union troops use Mephits or Elementals for that?



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06/01/2006 8:06 AM  
So, here's what I did last night that got me all kinds of happy for a Scarlet Corsair:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-35%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=scarlet+-brotherhood+dungeons+dragons+site%3Awww.wizards.com

Basic google fu: scarlet -brotherhead dungeons dragons site:www.wizards.com

The "Bane not Xvim" clue is harder.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-35%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=bane+-xvim+dungeons+dragons+site%3Awww.wizards.com

Google fu for those of you playing the home game: bane -xvim dungeons dragons site:www.wizards.com

Nothing really jumps out on that one. Tiamat and Bane both share the Tyranny domain; that's kinda neat but doesn't lead me to a mini. There are some interesting ones, but which I think are unlikely like Xathcrism, the beholder that calls itself "Bane's Eyes" http://www.wizards.com/forgottenrealms/DnD_ES_009.asp

Anyway, my Google-fu is less strong on that path.

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06/01/2006 8:18 AM  
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It's more than that-- after Bane's death, Xvim was the agent of his rebirth. Essentially, Xvim was a "seed" of sorts that allowed Bane to be reborn from death and reclaim his power. In a very real sense, Xvim was Bane, which is why I think "Bane, but not Xvim" means "not the FR Bane".


So like Bane in the Batman sense???

I could use a mini of him....

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06/01/2006 8:22 AM  
The following are Bane Related creatures

Banelich: Bane over the years turned a number of his High priests into Banelichs and when Bane was killed during the time of troubles he invested his divine essense in 25-30 Bane Lichs he had created. The Banelichs never joined the Xvims church and Xvim actually tried to track down and kill them.

Banelar: Water Nagas who where corrupted by Bane and turned into Banelars (Huge naga's)

Banedead: Undead created when Cyric tried to kill off all of Banes worshipers

Beast of Bane: A Template that can be applied to creatures basicly making them Banes servants

Fzoul Chembyrl: The Chosen of Bane

Gareth DragonsBANE: My Wild card entry, Gareth is a Paladin and follows the Forgotten Realms deity Ilmater his achievements include Destroying the Wand of Orcus and killing Tiamat the goddess of Evil Dragons. The Fact that WODQ has a strong dragon flavour and that the Aspect of Tiamat is in the set makes me think that Shoe might be refering to Gareth Dragonsbane and that in DDM Gareth will be LGs Epic beat sticks for dealing with WODQ glut of Evil Dragons

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06/01/2006 9:33 AM  
when i saw the clue at 4 am - my first thought was batman (desmodu)
and scarlet from g i joe - maybe a cobra reference then as i drifted back to sleep- scarlet joe became scarecrow- also a batman villain.
so I think my subconscience is telling me we will see a desmodu and a scarecrow

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06/01/2006 9:36 AM  
Yippe for pirates!

ARGH!

I agree with more RHoD minis (wants a hobgoblin chainmaster!!!).


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06/01/2006 9:41 AM  
I think the 'Bane' reference will be to a LG mini that is a Draconic-bane figure. Likely a humanish PC type that will be able to dish massive damage to anything with 'dragon' in the type. Probably end up being speed 4 and sloooooooow tho.

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06/01/2006 9:49 AM  
There's also the 1st level cleric spell Bane. Perhaps it's a cleric of some sort. The BBEG from RHoD is a half-dragon hobgoblin cleric, he'd make a cool mini...

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06/01/2006 10:24 AM  
Wasn't there a rumor a while back of a figure wearing red dragon armor? That could be the scarlet part of the clue but, I'd prefer a female pirate, too.

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06/01/2006 11:01 AM  
Scarlet- clear Crimson ooze that somebody mentioned a while back? Or have we reached the limit of clear plastic minis for this set?

Bane- Dragon bane mini of some kind?

Does the word "applaud" have some meaning, or am I just reading way too much into Shoe's clues? [:p]

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06/01/2006 11:05 AM  
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Who's Xvim?


Here's a little bit more info on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyachtu_Xvim

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