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06/01/2006 11:11 PM  
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Originally posted by dj-chuckles

I love the leaks and everything, but I'm slightly disappointed with this set, I'm gonna limit myself on this set.

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I'm buying my 5 cases still maybe a few more.


5 cases is limiting yourself? I wish I had your budget.

Normaly I order 3 cases, but I saved up for this set. I am sticking with my 9 case preorder. After seeing all the pictures I can't wait to get them.

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06/01/2006 11:17 PM  
I enjoyed the poster preview.

I still haven't decided case versus booster's.

There may not be many pieces I use as a DM but sooner or later I imagine I will find someone to skirmish with again. there will be some good skirmish pieces in there.

Plus I collect the D**N things

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06/01/2006 11:54 PM  
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06/02/2006 12:21 AM  
The poster has only added to my satisfaction that I ordered 3 cases. Sure there are a few disappointments, but I like 95% of the set.

The poster has only helped the set in my opinion.

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06/02/2006 12:26 AM  
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Originally posted by dj-chuckles

Well,

I love the leaks and everything, but I'm slightly disappointed with this set, I'm gonna limit myself on this set.



Yup, out of the 'normal rares' there are 3 I want plus 2 I'll keep if I pull but won't try to get.

The Uncommon Huges is where its at though. Probably get 1.5 cases.

There just aren't enough 'classic' OGL monsters.



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I'm with you. Only 3 rares that I really want. There are 3 more I would keep if I pulled them, but only one of each. That is 6 rares that I find acceptable. I like 7 of the commons and about 10 of the uncommons. The rest are nothing I want. The huge uncommons are going to be interesting as I want 5 out of 6 of those and at least 2 of each. Only want one huge rare though (would've been 2 if the black didn't have that growth on its back). I would keep one Tiamat if I pulled her but the Dracolich is the only want I want to keep.

I have 5 cases pre-ordered. I haven't decided yet on how much I'm reducing it but I'm thinking of canceling my order completely. I'll get what I want off ebay singles merchants (if I can, it seems a lot of peeps are going this route). This set is the worst one to date in my eyes. I do not like the selection of minis at all. I don't like the mounted minis, they look great, but I don't want them. The only mounted minis I want are goblin worg riders and knight types on horseback, not nightmares, horses! There just aren't enough minis that I want in this set. Its sad really.

And for the record the 3 rares I want are:
Large Green Dragon (my favorite dragon species)
Magma Hurler
Redspawn Firebelcher (suprised?)

the 3 I would keep one of are:
Slaughterstone Eviscerator
Golden Protector
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That is only 26 minis that I want out of 60, 30 I would keep. I think singles would be best. I really wanted to open some boosters but it looks like I'm going to have to wait until Blood War. [:(]

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06/02/2006 12:45 AM  
No change in my buying plans - 3 or 4 cases, probably 4. I am both a set collector and an avid skirmisher/RPG'er so I need everyting; and some in fairly high numbers.

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06/02/2006 12:49 AM  
I ordered 3 cases before the poster and I'll be sticking with that order happily. Overall I think it's a nice set at least appearance wise. We'll have to see how the skirmish stats play out for wanting duplicates of rares but so far I'm pretty impressed.

The things that I didn't particularily like in the set I already knew about, the like Blue Dragonspawn thingy.

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06/02/2006 12:56 AM  
I'm more excited now that've seen the whole set. Until now I was thinking of reducing my pre-order. Now I'm wondering if I can afford to increase it.
Either way, I know there are a number of figs I'm going to have to buy singles of

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06/02/2006 1:00 AM  
The poster does alter my intended buying, but since I don't preorder it won't change anything as I'd already know how much (based on the appearance of the set) I was buying before I started.

This is down to a case (MAYBE two) and ebay. There are too many figures I want to avoid.

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06/02/2006 1:07 AM  
I'm actually probably going to up the number if cases from 3 to 4. I was a little wary at first, but man I love all the Huges, except the Blue Dragonspawn. Also regular Uncommons will be harder to get, and probably cost more. So I'm thinkin 4 might be the magic number. I think they did a great job in general.

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06/02/2006 1:14 AM  
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Originally posted by cerberuspuppy

I feel a little better about the set. Looking at the poster, the all important "booster factor" seems better than I was afraid it would be. There are only 7 minis out of the 60 that I actively dislike. They made some bad calls, but it could have been worse.

I'll get the 10 boosters that I was planning on, maybe more. I'll be curious to see what happens on the singles market.



I agree...I counted 10 that I really don't care for....overall an excellent set. A little too much mounted action, too many dragonspawn, and not enough diversity on the iconic monster front! I debated between 2 and 3 cases, and I am glad that I went with 3!

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06/02/2006 1:20 AM  
The poster hasn't really changed my plans: 2 sealed cases, and the equivalent of another case via pre-release and draft tourneys. Then it's trading and eBaying!

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06/02/2006 1:26 AM  
Neither the leaks nor the poster have affected my purchase decision. We had to commit to our pre-orders at our FLGS before the poster broke and I had only seen 19 greenbacks.

My order was 3 cases and just before the weekend, I upped it to 3.5 cases. That's also knowing that I'll probably play in 3 or 4 limited events, to bring that total purchase to 3.5 cases and 8 boosters. All in all, that's effectively 5 cases worth.

And all this despite my lack of excitement over the set in general. Sure, there are some minis that I really like alot, but overall, the set leaves me feeling meh. But I love the DDM line, I like the general direction of things, and I like enough of the minis to not call this set a failure.

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06/02/2006 1:47 AM  
Very happy with what I see, will buy extra for sure!! [:D]


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06/02/2006 3:01 AM  
I am extremely happy with the pictures i've seen yesterday. I already preordered 4 cases, but I'm thinking of getting 6 (2 extra) cases now.

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EDIT - It's official! I have now preordered 6 cases in total!

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06/02/2006 4:01 AM  
I know that we are not suppose to talk about the green pics but I think that is a mute point now that the poster is out. The release of the poster has not affected by buy plans, I really liked seeing the off the line minis in the green pics and looking forward to seeing the off the line minis in the future sets.

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06/02/2006 4:30 AM  
Some of the newly revealed minis are great. (The Tavern Brawler is a big help to those of us who want minis for non-combatants, and the piate is also great.) However, I'll be buying far fewer of this set than any previous one - probably less than 50%.

I think the problem here is that WotC tried to meet too many aims in a single set. The normal constraints in any set are: 1) the chosen theme, with some/many that must match it; 2) balancing the needs of new and existing customers; 3) balancing new creatures against core and commonly used ones; 4) spreading minis across the factions; 5) making the selection work in skirmish. For this set they also had 6) it's a rare case of a huge set, creating high expectations.

That's already a tough set of aims. But they also threw in:

6) this set will be the first to feature clear plastic;
7) this set will have a special focus on MMIV, i.e. completely unknown creatures;
8) as this is the year of the Dragon, the theme will be shouted about even more than usual!

All of these requirements narrow the choice of minis. Something had to give. Take the example of the Golden Protector. It could have been an ordinary Lammasu - but the need to have lots of dragon-related minis meant that it was the less used Golden Protector variant. Taken in isolation, that decision isn't a problem. But it isn't an isolated case. Blocking 5 slots with dragonspawn, and yet more slots with other completely new creatures really didn't help.

What 'gave' in particular was the balance of new and core creatures. It would have made more sense to have dropped the big focus on MMIV, and spread MMIV creatures (dragonspawn in particular) over several sets rather than cramming them all into one IMO.

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06/02/2006 4:39 AM  
I'm putting limits on my spending and this won't affect it. But if I hadn't preordered a case this time (my first full case!) I'd probably regret it now! I love this set!

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06/02/2006 4:39 AM  
I pretty much agree with everything Arandae said.

I'm still getting one case + singles (although there are only 5-6 creatures I want multiples of in this set). On the other hand, if Blood War is half as good as my expectations of it, I'll be upping my order to two cases.

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06/02/2006 4:40 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Arandae

Some of the newly revealed minis are great. (The Tavern Brawler is a big help to those of us who want minis for non-combatants, and the piate is also great.) However, I'll be buying far fewer of this set than any previous one - probably less than 50%.

I think the problem here is that WotC tried to meet too many aims in a single set. The normal constraints in any set are: 1) the chosen theme, with some/many that must match it; 2) balancing the needs of new and existing customers; 3) balancing new creatures against core and commonly used ones; 4) spreading minis across the factions; 5) making the selection work in skirmish. For this set they also had 6) it's a rare case of a huge set, creating high expectations.

That's already a tough set of aims. But they also threw in:

6) this set will be the first to feature clear plastic;
7) this set will have a special focus on MMIV, i.e. completely unknown creatures;
8) as this is the year of the Dragon, the theme will be shouted about even more than usual!

All of these requirements narrow the choice of minis. Something had to give. Take the example of the Golden Protector. It could have been an ordinary Lammasu - but the need to have lots of dragon-related minis meant that it was the less used Golden Protector variant. Taken in isolation, that decision isn't a problem. But it isn't an isolated case. Blocking 5 slots with dragonspawn, and yet more slots with other completely new creatures really didn't help.

What 'gave' in particular was the balance of new and core creatures. It would have made more sense to have dropped the big focus on MMIV, and spread MMIV creatures (dragonspawn in particular) over several sets rather than cramming them all into one IMO.



Very good points. I especially agree with the last paragraph. They tried to throw a bone in several directions, leaving many things out. While this hyena is far superior in appearance to the other (and I like it a lot more), I would have rather had some animal we haven't had from MM1 already. There were several remakes (wererat rogue, etc.) I don't really know if I want the five cases I preordered.

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06/02/2006 5:14 AM  
I'm in the "Cool, cant wait to get some!" club. The psoter definately had a positive effect on my plans to buy.

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06/02/2006 5:23 AM  
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Originally posted by IanB

quote:
Originally posted by dj-chuckles

Well,

I love the leaks and everything, but I'm slightly disappointed with this set, I'm gonna limit myself on this set.

Anyone else angry?

Anyone Happy?



Probably going up from 2 cases to 3 cases, myself. Even with all the missing saddles.


Same here. Even up from 1 to 3. If I can still afford it by then. :D

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06/02/2006 8:08 AM  
Hasn't changed mine,I was going with 3 cases and random impulse boosters and singles,still am.

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06/02/2006 8:33 AM  
I dunno, I've been debating 2 or 3 cases since this set was announced and I'm still not sure.

I may do 2 cases from GO and preorder about 2 of the 9 uncommons I want and a Large Green.

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06/02/2006 8:41 AM  
I've said since the beginning that this would be a 3 case set for me, and none of the leaks have changed that at any point. There are stinkers in this set, like any, and there are pieces to die for, like any set. Extras I don't want will be traded, more of what I do want will be sought. No one wanted Zakya Rakshasas, and I'm up to a dozen, my win...

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06/02/2006 8:57 AM  
Hmm just edited my trade thread. And I can safely say that I really only need probably 1 case (to assure myself 3 Huge Rares) and can second market the rest of the set. Maybe grab another case in August or something. But there's really only 4 rares that I want more than 1 of, and I want about a butt-ton of different UC/C that hopefully I can get off eBay in cheap lots of 10 or so.

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06/02/2006 9:06 AM  
I rated all the pieces in the set (which I always do)..

Highes
Aspect of Tiamat
Dracolich
Mountain Troll
Large Green Dragon
Ogre Skirmisher
Diseased Dire Rat
Cloudreaver

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Redspawn Firebelcher
Wizened Elder Watcher - Was a high before the rare issue arose
Whitespawn Hordeling

No, 0's or 1's in this set, which is a first.

Overall highest rated set so far to me, will rescore once they are in hand. I preordered 4 cases, this should hit all that I need, then fill up on the U/Cs from ebay.

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06/02/2006 9:12 AM  
The only thing this set is making me think about is finding some more Chainmail. There seems to be a lot of Chainmail pieces floating around in this set.

Maybe 3 cases... just not sure yet.

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06/02/2006 9:12 AM  
I had ordered 3 cases and will stick to that after failing my will save for a complete set.

HOWEVER I am still disappointed at this set and the poor choices for most of the Huges. I think I am going to have a +4 for my next save vs Blood War

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06/02/2006 9:14 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by glumag

I had ordered 3 cases and will stick to that after failing my will save for a complete set.

HOWEVER I am still disappointed at this set and the poor choices for most of the Huges. I think I am going to have a +4 for my next save vs Blood War



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06/02/2006 9:38 AM  
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Hmm just edited my trade thread. And I can safely say that I really only need probably 1 case (to assure myself 3 Huge Rares) and can second market the rest of the set. Maybe grab another case in August or something. But there's really only 4 rares that I want more than 1 of, and I want about a butt-ton of different UC/C that hopefully I can get off eBay in cheap lots of 10 or so.



I was under the impression that you get 2 Huge rares in a case and 4 Huge uncommons. Am I mistaken?
As for the set, I'm sticking with my order of 2 cases... I may up it to 3. I'm kinda disappointed that most of the LG mini's are rares... since LG is my favorite faction, having the majority of it's pieces as rares means that I'm going to be stuck with a bunch of common and uncommon CE junk (and my CE bag is already over full!) [)]
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06/02/2006 9:43 AM  
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quote:
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Hmm just edited my trade thread. And I can safely say that I really only need probably 1 case (to assure myself 3 Huge Rares) ...
I was under the impression that you get 2 Huge rares in a case and 4 Huge uncommons. Am I mistaken?
As for the set, I'm sticking with my order of 2 cases... I may up it to 3....
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06/02/2006 9:44 AM  
Er yeah 2

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06/02/2006 9:56 AM  
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Anyone Happy?


Yup; me.

Maybe I'm just not cynical enough but I just love minis. That fact that in a month's time I'll be cradling a new armload of plastic joy makes me incredibly happy, and the fact that so many of the minis are jsut fantastic makes it all teh better. There are some figures shown that make my jaw drop, and not in a bad way. In fact there is not a single mini on the poster that I look at an say "WTF," not even the much-maligned Griffon Cavalry.

So let me be a dissenting voice among the dissenters by saying that this minis fan is very happy with what he has seen.

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06/02/2006 9:57 AM  
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They'll never LEARN if you reward them ANYWAY, you know.


That presumes that they've done something wrong, which they have not.

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06/02/2006 10:35 AM  
I pre-ordered 4 cases and would add a 5th if I had the spare cash. I think this is an awesome set and will be one of the most valuable. The only thing that bothers me is how much I am obviously going to have to spend on singles to get enough Stirges. Which will undoubtedly be the most expensive Uncommon in the set due to demand.


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06/02/2006 10:47 AM  

Eh. The poster didn't do anything for or against this set. Some of the choices have me scratching my head, but I like most of the selections (yay Brawler and Pirate), even the already-much maligned Griffon Cavalry.

But, the poster certainly didn't break me out of the mindset of waiting to see the actual figures in hand before I buy any cases, that is for certain. In fact, up close and personal, the poster paint jobs look too nice, IMO. Won't get fooled again...



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06/02/2006 11:15 AM  
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Originally posted by trollbill

I pre-ordered 4 cases and would add a 5th if I had the spare cash. I think this is an awesome set and will be one of the most valuable. The only thing that bothers me is how much I am obviously going to have to spend on singles to get enough Stirges. Which will undoubtedly be the most expensive Uncommon in the set due to demand.


True dat.

I'm torn. I'd get a million cases if I could, but I can't. I'm trying to decide if it is worth it to get just one (and lots of singles) or two. Unlike past years, disposable income is rare ... I can't just order four or eight or whatever I'd like.


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06/02/2006 11:39 AM  
I'll get my pre-release boosters, and decide from there. If the paint jobs are "teh suck", I'll limit my purchases, since there are only 5 or 6 I feel the NEED to own, and a few that I don't mind getting.

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