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Originally posted by Username

I believe the Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat is from RHoD.

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Originally posted by Benimoto

Oops, to shorten the "Other" list even further, the Wardens of the Wood are a sect of Druids detailed in the Eberron Campaign Setting.

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

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I believe the Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat is from RHoD.

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The Talon of Tiamat is a PrC first introduced in Draconomicon.

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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

I really ove the minis they selected from Races of the Dragon. I couldn't have selected a better 4 for that book myself.

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Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra

The Yuan-Ti Halfblood Sorcerer was probably based on the artwork of page 17 in Forgotten Realms: Serpent Kingdoms. Now I'm expecting some more from this book to be in Blood War. Probably the Khaasta.

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I really ove the minis they selected from Races of the Dragon. I couldn't have selected a better 4 for that book myself.

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They're basically the only minis that can be pulled from that book. [:P]

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I really ove the minis they selected from Races of the Dragon. I couldn't have selected a better 4 for that book myself.

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They're basically the only minis that can be pulled from that book. [:P]

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In fairness, there are several PrCs and other options they could have done (1/2 dragons, draconic creatures, etc.). I'm happy that they did these 4 and I really like the way they all turned out.

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Originally posted by taliesin

Not counting the mounted minis (cause if it isn't pure, it might as well be a can of soup), that's only 19 minis drawn from MM1. Less than 1/3 the set. I'd be much happier at 25-29.

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Not counting the mounted minis (cause if it isn't pure, it might as well be a can of soup), that's only 19 minis drawn from MM1. Less than 1/3 the set. I'd be much happier at 25-29.

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And only a dozen or so are new to the game - the rest are retreads (or some sort of mounted freak). With retreads in, yes I would be happy in the 25-29 range.

On the up-side, Im' finding myself more interested in the uncommons in this set than the rares. That, combined with the low number of minis that grab me in this set means I can save money and buy fewer cases.

Jim
(rokeca)

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Originally posted by Dargoth

The Dracolich orgionally appeared in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting source book

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Originally posted by IanB

I don't remember seeing the cadaver collector in any of the Eberron books - as far as I know it is MM III only, with the usual sidebar in that book about where it is in Eberron.

I think people may be confusing it with the corpse crab?

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Originally posted by Count Dooku

Im all for promoting new books...But Id really liek to seea health dose of MM2 and Fiend Folio in future sets.

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I'd say it depends on the set theme, and how we feel we've addressed certain books and to what degree. There's an effort to include a certain number of "classic" creatures in each set - and those might be things that were from earlier editions but whose first 3e appearance may have been MoF, MM2, or FF. Things like the Hook Horror or the Grell, which are creatures I'd consider more "core" than something like the Achaierai or Rast.

We all have lists of what we'd like to see made as minis, and many of those creatures are in those other MM books. Some of us were contributors to those books (not me, though), and so have personal favorites.

As Matt will allude to in an upcoming article, it's a balancing act between what the designers/developers want, what the rest of R&D and the brand team asks for, what's in upcoming books/adventures, what we haven't done in existing books, what our fans clamor for, what Mat Smith's character is, and what we can put in to upset Ghendar. Usually, there's alot of overlap in those categories.

Some things have high priority, some things are on a more measured and deliberate pace.

Vague enough answer for you?

Bottom line is, we do look at those books, for the cool monsters that are in them. Jovoc, Juggernaught, Bone Naga, and Maug are examples of creatures that I think would make great minis - and there are a bunch more that could also fit the bill, though I think the Coolness Mine is close to hitting bedrock in the FF. I think MM3 and MM4 have more cool ideas, that sound and feel less random than something like the Phiuhl or Indricothere. (It might not be coincidence that MM3 was the first MM with a development team.)

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Originally posted by Count Dooku

Im all for promoting new books...But Id really liek to seea health dose of MM2 and Fiend Folio in future sets.

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Originally posted by Count Dooku

Thats a real shame.
I mean heres a list of super-cool monsters that really do need the mini treatment that are in the FF.
All 3 Demodands
Dark Stalker
Carytid Column
Necrophidious
Wicker Man
Blood Golem of Hextor
Swordwraith
Hecuva
Skulk
Mud Slaad

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Im all for promoting new books...But Id really liek to seea health dose of MM2 and Fiend Folio in future sets.

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They're saving that for the undisclosed set, "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes"

It'll be a huge set, full of resculpts and even crazier mounted figures:

A warforged gnome riding a half-dragon Aboleth of Legend with celestial Wrackspawn minions
A huge Snig mounted on Cerberus
A Hippogriff with rider done like the Griffon Cavalry
The "Ultimate NPC" from a recent issue of Dragon magazine (tons of translucent weapons
Succubus Paladin with Vrock Mount
Overworm for Age of Worms (Frost Worm would have been too cool)
Choker Champion
Fiendish wolf
Troll Skirmisher (with requisite bad sculpt)
Redspawn GodSlayer (just because they can)
Crawling Head (fiend folio)
Caryatid column (FF)
Bacchae (We'll need another Drunken Brawler stand in)
Disenchanter (for the cruel DMs)
Large Emerald Dragon
Small silver dragon
Small green dragon
Medium Shadow Dragon (for Ghendar [}:)] -- it would annoy him so)
Oh, and 14 gnome-based minis:
Gimble, Bard of Legend
Gnome Scout
Gnome Sorcerer
Gnome with Warforged mount
Orc Gnome Slayer
Half-dragon gnome barbarian
Half-fey gnome
Mounted Gnome on War Horse (Why? Why not! ha!)
Gnome Bodyguard
Tinker Gnome (for DL, y'know? Since it's "Dead" and all)
Gnome Giant Killer
Gnome Archer
Half-Illithid Gnome
Gnome Target (Gnome with bullseye painted front and back, and one on the head)

There you go, Dooku! [}:)]

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Wow with all the complaints about no MM1 monsters it's interesting to see this

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Wow with all the complaints about no MM1 monsters it's interesting to see this

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That may relate significantly to the number of rehashed/resculpted figures in this set. Yes, MMI dominates the selection of minis, but all of the following list have appeared in a similar form in past sets:

Aasimar Fighter (Abe Aasimar Favored Soul)
Azer Fighter (Har Azer Raider)
Cleric of Laogzed (Previous trogs from several sets)
Diseased Dire Rat (GoL Dire Rat)
Griffon Cavalry (DK Griffon)
Hunting Hyena (Har Hyena)
Ogre Skirmisher (Various Ogres)
Wererat Rogue (DE Wererat)
Yuan-Ti Pureblood Sorcerer (ArF Yuan-Ti Pureblood)

While many of these have alternate classes or templates from previous versions, they still lack the uniqueness that a Rust Monster, Pixie, Psuedodragon or someother totally new creature would have. Note that I didn't count different size minis like the diplacer beast packlord because we don't have a huge version of this creature in a preceeding set.

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