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06/02/2006 2:31 PM  
MUHAHAHAHA

I wonder how many more threads will be started. I would like to see some DL figs too, but seriously.... :)

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06/02/2006 2:37 PM  
*bangs pots and pans*

YOOOWWWLL!!!!

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06/02/2006 2:39 PM  
Hahaha.. I was ready with the "There's another topic, dude.." comments already.


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06/02/2006 2:43 PM  
Here we go again..... [:D]

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06/02/2006 2:46 PM  
DL minis are like gnomes. They're specifically NOT made just so that the designers can sit back and cackle madly over the never-ending complaint threads (here and on the WotC boards) [:P]

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06/02/2006 2:48 PM  
All I am asking is for a RAISTLIN mini pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase![:(]

I am literally begging![:p]

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06/02/2006 2:49 PM  
So, does that mean it's my turn then to say that Dragonlance is no longer owned by Wizards and that they cannot get the rights to the Material anymore?

/cue Planchet

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06/02/2006 3:49 PM  
Sink the Ebberon ship and bring back DragonLance~!!!!!!

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06/02/2006 3:50 PM  
Its because everyone hate's Dragonlance.

I am not gone.

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06/02/2006 3:55 PM  
Perhaps there never was any Dragonlance, maybe's it's all just another gnomish illusion. [:)]

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06/02/2006 3:59 PM  
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Perhaps there never was any Dragonlance, maybe's it's all just another gnomish illusion. [:)]

I think you've discovered the secret..


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06/02/2006 4:02 PM  
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Its because everyone hate's Dragonlance.



But....everyone hates you too, and you still keep showing up [)]

Or is it the Couatl shirt that people hate? I forget.


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06/02/2006 4:51 PM  
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/cue Planchet


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06/02/2006 4:57 PM  
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Sink the Ebberon ship and bring back DragonLance~!!!!!!



You can't sink FLYING ships.

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06/02/2006 5:01 PM  
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quote:
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Sink the Ebberon ship and bring back DragonLance~!!!!!!



You can't sink FLYING ships.

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Sure you can, just get your Couatl to cast Legion's Undeniable Gravity. [:D]

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06/02/2006 5:09 PM  
So anyone else think the guys at wizards place bets on which topic is going to be more prevalant on any given day? Gnome threads or Dragonlance threads? We seem to be have both going at the moment!

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06/02/2006 7:29 PM  
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All I am asking is for a RAISTLIN mini pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase![:(]

I am literally begging![:p]



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He is THE iconic character of D&D. I would say more so than the creator's Mordenkainen, or even the ever popular Drizzt.

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06/02/2006 7:36 PM  
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06/02/2006 8:07 PM  
Gee lets think about this

Eberron or DragonLance

Well I said in another thread we might see Dragonlance in Icons

my problem is seeing ebberron at all.

Why

WHY

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06/02/2006 8:11 PM  
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06/02/2006 10:19 PM  
i rally with my brothers. wotc will u respond to the question of no dragonlance?why not? is there hope for more?

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06/04/2006 11:51 AM  
Instead of spinning of a Dreamblade game which nobody wants and nobody will buy, why not spin off an Ebberon Mini game? That way we D&D guys won't have to buy anymore machine/dinosaur minis and their slots can be replaced with DL minis!

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06/04/2006 5:19 PM  
execellent suggestion

or we can just drop Jurrasticc Machine Head Altogether and keep thye slots

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06/04/2006 7:28 PM  
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quote:
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All I am asking is for a RAISTLIN mini pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase![:(]

I am literally begging![:p]



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He is THE iconic character of D&D. I would say more so than the creator's Mordenkainen, or even the ever popular Drizzt.



Umm I`ll get on my knees too for a raistlin... though I dont mind the wait if it's not ensure he gets the right eyes.

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06/05/2006 7:48 AM  
Wow. This makes me so tempted to start a thread called "Missing Paint Steps on Dragonlance Gnome with Rider". That way, everyone can just sit around howling with pain [:D].

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Wow. This makes me so tempted to start a thread called "Missing Paint Steps on Dragonlance Gnome with Rider". That way, everyone can just sit around howling with pain [:D].

The gun. Don't forget the gun.

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06/05/2006 7:57 AM  
You forgot to mention a gun and a dinosaur. Missing paint steps on the Dragonlance Gnome Pistolier on Celestial Triceratops.

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06/05/2006 9:11 AM  
Don't be silly, there are Dragonlance figures in WotDQ.

Draconians were such a good idea that they had to make a fiendish version and call them abishai. These didn't catch on quite as much as the draconians did, but were still a decent semi-new monster. The new staff's creative well had run completely dry and they needed new monsters for Monster Manual XLVI, so they ripped off the concept one more time for the rediculous pieces of garbage they put in this set.

If you think I am just an old grognard railling against everything new, just wait until set XXI where they rip off the idea for a 4th time since not enough people complained about the third version.

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06/05/2006 10:43 AM  
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Gully Dwarves.
Hordes and hordes of Gully Dwarves!!



LMAO!!! The cackling Beholder-like thing only makes it funnier.
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06/05/2006 1:02 PM  
Prolly for the same reason there aren't minis from:

Ravenloft (except Soth, who was a DL alumnus, BTW)
Mystara
Red Steel
Spelljammer (except mind flayers and beholders)
Maztica
Planescape (except Marut)
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06/05/2006 1:19 PM  
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Draconians were such a good idea that they had to make a fiendish version and call them abishai.


IIRC aren't Abishai from thw 1st Ed. MMII, which predates DL by about a year?


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06/05/2006 1:38 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Thailfi:
Draconians were such a good idea that they had to make a fiendish version and call them abishai.


IIRC aren't Abishai from thw 1st Ed. MMII, which predates DL by about a year?




You are absolutely right. I should have remembered them from MMII as many times as I have used that book. Okay, so draconians are a rip-off of abishai. Dragonspawn are still an uninspired knockoff.

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06/05/2006 1:47 PM  
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Dragonspawn are still an uninspired knockoff.



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06/05/2006 3:05 PM  
Pardon my ignorance, but where can I find stats for the Abishai in a 3e suppliment?

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06/05/2006 3:14 PM  
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Pardon my ignorance, but where can I find stats for the Abishai in a 3e suppliment?

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These threads are getting very comical. Even I'm starting to get sick of DL minis requests.



I THINK there's an FR supplement that has them, Monsters of Faerun or some such. I'm not sure, I dislike the setting so I don't keep up with it.

I KNOW you can find the stats for the Blue Abishai in Red Hand of Doom. From there it would be easy to modify them to whatever color/energy type you need

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06/05/2006 3:15 PM  
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quote:
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Draconians were such a good idea that they had to make a fiendish version and call them abishai.


IIRC aren't Abishai from thw 1st Ed. MMII, which predates DL by about a year?




You are absolutely right. I should have remembered them from MMII as many times as I have used that book. Okay, so draconians are a rip-off of abishai. Dragonspawn are still an uninspired knockoff.



Isn't it awfully early to call them uninspired? I mean we haven't even seen the MM IV yet.

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06/05/2006 3:33 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Thailfi:
Draconians were such a good idea that they had to make a fiendish version and call them abishai.


IIRC aren't Abishai from thw 1st Ed. MMII, which predates DL by about a year?




You are absolutely right. I should have remembered them from MMII as many times as I have used that book. Okay, so draconians are a rip-off of abishai. Dragonspawn are still an uninspired knockoff.



I'd have to agree with IanB on this one.

Plus, calling things a knockoff in our hobby is kind of funny. It's not as though DL is a completely original concept itself. Don't get me wrong, I like the setting-but I like it because it's well executed and entertaining-not beacuse it's totally original. I'll pass judgement on Dragonspawn once I see more about them and put them to work a time or two. In reading Shoe's campaign updates, they seemed to work out well in RHoD.

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06/05/2006 4:10 PM  
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Isn't it awfully early to call them uninspired? I mean we haven't even seen the MM IV yet.


It's not early at all. I have seen five of them already. WAAAAY more info than I need to pass judgement. Correct me if I am wrong, but are they not draconic, infernal, servants of Tiamat? Sounds like a knockoff of abishai to me.

I me, come on, we have;

A big green cricket.
An ugly, baby blue, Barney looking, goofball.
An albino kobold with wings.
A less than fearsome red lizard dog.
A black half-dragon with a different name on its base.

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06/05/2006 4:18 PM  
They aren't infernal. At least, the ones in RHoD don't have the extraplanar subtype, or the outsider type. They are monstrous humanoids or magical beasts. So, not a complete knock-off of abishai.

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06/05/2006 4:24 PM  
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Isn't it awfully early to call them uninspired? I mean we haven't even seen the MM IV yet.


It's not early at all. I have seen five of them already. WAAAAY more info than I need to pass judgement. Correct me if I am wrong, but are they not draconic, infernal, servants of Tiamat? Sounds like a knockoff of abishai to me.

I me, come on, we have;

A big green cricket.
An ugly, baby blue, Barney looking, goofball.
An albino kobold with wings.
A less than fearsome red lizard dog.
A black half-dragon with a different name on its base.




You've seen pictures all these things from one angle, without any of the accompanying flavor text or game statistics.

I'm willing to bet your mind was made up as soon as you had a sniff that they were going to be using slots on something new, and it doesn't actually matter how well-done it ends up being (or not being.)

They may suck, they may be great. It is, I think, too early to tell.

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