ktatroe
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572 Posts
    
 | | 06/16/2006 1:47 PM |
| (This is a repost of something I posted on Hordelings a few weeks back, but I figured given some of the talk here recently that it could stand to be posted here, too... [:)])
After the recent spate of complaining that "after 10 sets, we still have hardly any classic D&D monsters!" I of course had to check. Grabbing my trusty White Box, I took note of all the monsters given blackspace, and you know what? We grognards aren't just complaining to hear ourselves complain!
Can you believe that only 45 out of 68 (exactly two-thirds of them) of these monsters have been made in plastic? How can Wizards sleep at night?
These include: Basilisk, Centaur, Chimera, Dragon (Black, Blue, Golden, Green, Red, and White), Efreet, Elemental (Earth and Water), Gargoyle, Giant (Cloud, Fire, Frost, Hill, and Stone), Gnoll, Goblin, Golem (Flesh only, other golems are not D&D), Hippogriff, Hobgoblin, Kobold, Manticore, Medusa, Minotaur, Mummy, Ochre Jelly, Ogre, Orc, Pegasus, Salamander, Spectre, Treant, Troll, Unicorn, Vampire, Werebear, Wereboar, Weretiger, Werewolf, Wight, Wraith, and Wyvern. While I'm glad to have all these, they're nigh on useless without having the rest.
So what's left? Well, not dinosaurs, of course--they didn't show up until 1979's Supplement II: Blackmoore, so all dinosaurs can go to the Nine Hells as far as I'm concerned. They have no place in real D&D.
However, we are missing a number of truly classic D&D monsters--and until they're made, D&D Miniatures is truly lacking. First up are the Android and Robot. Sure, some people will tell you that the Warforged are substitutes for one or the other, but that's crap. Warforged are magically created and animated--robots are gears and fiddly bits.
Next, we're missing several indistinct piles of gooey plastic: Black Pudding, Geletinous Cube, Gray Ooze, Green Slime, and Yellow Mold. The Ochre Jelly is the only creature in this mold that we've seen so far. I tell you what--neither I nor my players can pretend something ochre is actually green.
Edit: I'm told that a Gelatinous Cube is coming in a future set. Can we get TSR some danged spell-checkers? It's "geletinous".
For reference, the remaining classic monsters that haven't been done yet: Caveman, Cockatrice, Cyclops, Draft Horse, Dryad, Gorgon, Hydra, Juggernaut, Living Statue, Merman, Mule, Nixie, Pixie, Roc, and Sea Monster.
Hop to it, designers! Make this game truly classic--we want to like it, but we're still 23 monsters away from being able to!
Signed,
k. "No rest 'til I get my mule" tatroe
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 1:53 PM |
| I'm guessing this was sarcastic, but, the sphinx is seriously lacking a rep.
And how about a dog.
Large Water Elemental?
Mephits...
I can't seem to stop myself... | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
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| | 06/16/2006 1:55 PM |
| WHOA! Robots and Androids were in the original D&D???
Out of the indistinct piles of goo...I wouldnt hold my breath for Green Slime or Yellow Mold. They arent "Monsters" anymore. They are more like Hazards or Traps and are in the ungeon Masters guide as such.
Correct me if Im wrong..But Cavemen and Living Statues dont exist in any WotC 3rd edition book.
Whats a Sea Monster? Are they serpents or dragons or plesiasaurs? I always though Sea Monster was a broad catagory.
Mules and Draft Horses arent likely unless someone is sitting on them.
Cool to see the truly original list though :) | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
572 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 1:58 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm guessing this was sarcastic, but, the sphinx is seriously lacking a rep.
And how about a dog.
Large Water Elemental?
Mephits...
None of those are real D&D. There's no differentiation of sizes in real D&D, so Medium Water Elemental works just as well as a Large Water Elemental would.
We need Robots and Androids before we get any new stuff designed only to fill a $34.95 (in today's dollars) supplement, like Sphinx, Dogs, and Mephits.
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Ghendar
Warlord
12463 Posts
The G Spot
| | 06/16/2006 2:01 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
Out of the indistinct piles of goo...I wouldnt hold my breath for Green Slime or Yellow Mold. They arent "Monsters" anymore. They are more like Hazards or Traps and are in the ungeon Masters guide as such.
Yeah [:(]
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:01 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
Edit: I'm told that a Gelatinous Cube is coming in a future set. Can we get TSR some danged spell-checkers? It's "geletinous".
From Dictionary.com:
ge·lat·i·nous
Pronunciation Key (j-ltn-s)
adj.
1. Resembling gelatin; viscous.
2. Of, relating to, or containing gelatin.
No entry found for Geletinous.
Sounds about right for TSR. [)]
BTW, nice work! Love the post! [:)] | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
We need Robots and Androids...
OBJECTION! no we don't. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm guessing this was sarcastic, but, the sphinx is seriously lacking a rep.
And how about a dog.
Large Water Elemental?
Mephits...
I can't seem to stop myself...
Nor should you. If you expand (as you should) to the 1st edition monster manuals then that list grows.
Also, I think most grognards complain because, on a set to set basis, there not enough classics being addressed in comparison with the newer stuff.
It is unfair to make the tabulations with those books since DDM is a d20 in the era of the 3.5 edition so to accurately compare you should use the modern monster core and then all you need to do is check the threads that addressed what's left from the monster manual 3.5, etc.
Fun read ktatroe, but imho, not too accurate to the actual motive of complain and the number of classics.
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 06/16/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm guessing this was sarcastic, but, the sphinx is seriously lacking a rep.
And how about a dog.
Large Water Elemental?
Mephits...
I can't seem to stop myself...
He is pulling out the ORIGINAL D&D. The "White Box".
This goes back to way before even the 1st edition Monster Manual.
I never owned it myself...Im surprised to hear Robots are in it. | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
572 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:09 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco
No entry found for Geletinous.
quote:
Geletinous Cubes: Underground creatures of near complete transparency which fit exactly the typical corridor of a dungeon. Metal objects absorbed into them would be visible thereafter within their body. These monsters would be difficult to harm and have a large number of Hit Dice.
Dungeons & Dragons: Rules for Fantastic Medieval Wargames Campaigns Playable with Paper and Pencil and Miniature Figures: Monsters & Treasure, Volume 2 of Three Booklets, Gygax & Arneson, Tactical Studies Rules, 1974, p. 22
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:10 PM |
| | As an old-time player I can understand your feelings however I also accept that DDM are a product of 3rd edition (why else would some of the figures look as they do?). DDM is a product of a later generation of D&D and as such those of us who are long time players have to realize that some of our favorites have been weeded out. (or look different - beholders, umber hulk) | |
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synecdoche
Warrior
252 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:14 PM |
| We don't have a Hippogriff. We do have a Griffon, but they are not at all the same creature.
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:20 PM |
| IIRC, there was a 1 paragraph blurb in the original Monsters & Treasures book that mentioned dinosaurs for the campaign, but gave no stats.
Oh, and BTW, there were no Treants (or Halflings for that matter) in the original books. There were, however, Ents and Hobbits. | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
572 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:27 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
IIRC, there was a 1 paragraph blurb in the original Monsters & Treasures book that mentioned dinosaurs for the campaign, but gave no stats.
Oh, and BTW, there were no Treants (or Halflings for that matter) in the original books. There were, however, Ents and Hobbits.
Even for someone as crusty as myself, the Treant miniature makes an acceptable (if disappointingly named) Ent substitute.
There were also no Manticores, but there were Manticora, nor a Gold Dragon, but there was a Golden Dragon.
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:29 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco
No entry found for Geletinous.
quote:
Geletinous Cubes: Underground creatures of near complete transparency which fit exactly the typical corridor of a dungeon. Metal objects absorbed into them would be visible thereafter within their body. These monsters would be difficult to harm and have a large number of Hit Dice.
Dungeons & Dragons: Rules for Fantastic Medieval Wargames Campaigns Playable with Paper and Pencil and Miniature Figures: Monsters & Treasure, Volume 2 of Three Booklets, Gygax & Arneson, Tactical Studies Rules, 1974, p. 22
Well, you can add it to Wikipedia but I doubt dicitonary.com is going to be hopping on that one any time soon. [)] | |
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:31 PM |
| | Heh, I just remembered. There weren't any Humans either. Just Men. Wonder how they reproduced? | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
572 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
Heh, I just remembered. There weren't any Humans either. Just Men. Wonder how they reproduced?
With the help of the Martians, maybe?
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:39 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
Heh, I just remembered. There weren't any Humans either. Just Men. Wonder how they reproduced?
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Ghendar
Warlord
12463 Posts
The G Spot
| | 06/16/2006 2:48 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
Heh, I just remembered. There weren't any Humans either. Just Men. Wonder how they reproduced?
With the help of the Martians, maybe?
No, they were too busy building the pyramids for the Egyptians. [eyes] | |
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Kithmaker
Commander
3926 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
Edit: I'm told that a Gelatinous Cube is coming in a future set. Can we get TSR some danged spell-checkers? It's "geletinous".
In what language?!? Every English dictionary I can find does not include the spelling with the 'e' instead of the 'a' -- presumably because the base word is 'gelatin,' not 'geletin.'
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ktatroe
Sergeant
572 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
In what language?!?
I'm telling ya, I'm looking at my White Box, and it's right there in faded brown and white: 'geletinous'.
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:10 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
Edit: I'm told that a Gelatinous Cube is coming in a future set. Can we get TSR some danged spell-checkers? It's "geletinous".
In what language?!? Every English dictionary I can find does not include the spelling with the 'e' instead of the 'a' -- presumably because the base word is 'gelatin,' not 'geletin.'
He's saying that the proper spelling is with an "a" but the TSR used an "e" instead, but the way he phrased it makes it sound like he's saying the reverse. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:11 PM |
| Thanks for the post...
I laughed a little my first read through, of course, I knew exactly what, and why you were writing it...
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
Edit: I'm told that a Gelatinous Cube is coming in a future set. Can we get TSR some danged spell-checkers? It's "geletinous".
In what language?!? Every English dictionary I can find does not include the spelling with the 'e' instead of the 'a' -- presumably because the base word is 'gelatin,' not 'geletin.'
ask Gary Gygax. He's the one who used that spelling. [)]
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
Huh. And it couldn't possibly have been a typo the first time around... [)] Spell-checker in 1974? Not likely.
Nonsense! Next you will be telling me a Ring of Three Witches, Brazeer of Fire Elemental Command and Minionions of Set weren't intentional. | |
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:27 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
Huh. And it couldn't possibly have been a typo the first time around... [)] Spell-checker in 1974? Not likely.
Nonsense! Next you will be telling me a Ring of Three Witches, Brazeer of Fire Elemental Summoning and Minionions of Set weren't intentional.
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
Heh, I just remembered. There weren't any Humans either. Just Men. Wonder how they reproduced?
With the help of the Martians, maybe?
Unlikely. Mars seems to suffer from the same fate.
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Zoons
Underboss
1066 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:33 PM |
| by the way, they've done plenty of androids and robots. They're in the SWM expansion of DDM. THey stuck a lot of "Retro Movie Memorabilia" in with them so they can be hard to find.
So, you can cross them off as done. No need to look any further there. And I hope to god they never try those Geometric atrocities from the first Monster Manual. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:37 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
I'm laughing even harder at our members who don't seem to have gotten it!
Care to bring us in on the joke? [)] I don't read every thread or forum out there... | |
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by glumag
quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
I'm laughing even harder at our members who don't seem to have gotten it!
Care to bring us in on the joke? [)] I don't read every thread or forum out there...
What, you just post to them all without reading them first? [:p]
I see this as a satire of people whining that such-and-such should be included (or excluded, really) because they are(n't) in *their* version D&D. | |
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memphisto
Warrior
213 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:45 PM |
| Unless it was mentioned in the Hobbit, LotR trilogy (not Silmarillion, etc.) or appeared in a Sinbad movie from the 60's (the one's with claymation), then it's not acceptable source material to become a classic monster. That means more hobbits and goblins. Less Gnomes and wyverns. I'd also like a Tom Bombadil iconic, with matching Epic card.
Any source materials that these mentioned works were derived from are also not acceptable, including but not limited to: historic tales/accounts, Fantasy BWILOTE (books written in languages other than English), word of mouth, immagination, Cthulhu pulp, pagan rites, and cave drawings.
One last thing: Kraken aren't big squids. They're huge, armored sea-men with beaks. Please recall Clash of the Titans (Oh yeah, add CotT to the previous mentioned list of acceptable source material).
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 3:51 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by memphisto
One last thing: Kraken aren't big squids. They're huge, armored sea-men with beaks.
And four arms. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3168 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 4:06 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
Huh. And it couldn't possibly have been a typo the first time around... [)] Spell-checker in 1974? Not likely.
In 1974, a spell-checker was standard with every mirror...
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 06/16/2006 4:12 PM |
| Obviosly ktatroe is being funny about the typo-misspelling in the Original D&D Box.
Either that or he thinks since Gary G invented the monster he cant possibly misspell the name he invented :)
Luckily the new WotC 3rd edition material never have typos or misspellings in them[)] | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 4:15 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by memphisto
Unless it was mentioned in the Hobbit, LotR trilogy (not Silmarillion, etc.) or appeared in a Sinbad movie from the 60's (the one's with claymation), then it's not acceptable source material to become a classic monster. That means more hobbits and goblins. Less Gnomes and wyverns. I'd also like a Tom Bombadil iconic, with matching Epic card.
Any source materials that these mentioned works were derived from are also not acceptable, including but not limited to: historic tales/accounts, Fantasy BWILOTE (books written in languages other than English), word of mouth, immagination, Cthulhu pulp, pagan rites, and cave drawings.
One last thing: Kraken aren't big squids. They're huge, armored sea-men with beaks. Please recall Clash of the Titans (Oh yeah, add CotT to the previous mentioned list of acceptable source material).
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
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| | 06/16/2006 4:19 PM |
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Now that you have in some way mentioned The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, I am happy. FAVORITE MOVIE EVER.
Wich one is that?
-The one with the Cyclops and the Wizards cave guarded by a dragon?
-The one with the animated Statue of Kali at the end?
-The one with the Prince that was turned to a monkey and the Minotaur Golem?
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 4:20 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by memphisto
or appeared in a Sinbad movie from the 60's (the one's with claymation
Am I going to have to do a retributive strike with my Staff of the Nerd Purist on this thread?
Unless you're talking about some Gumby movie I never saw, Ray Harryhausen used Stop-Motion Animation (which he also refered to as DynaMation, SuperDynaMation and DynaRama depending on the film), not Claymation.
Minis-wise we'd be missing the Cyclops (though I have an old lead mini that's the spitting image), a Golden Minotaur Golem, an animated statue of Kali, a Two-Headed Roc, a Homonculous, a half-naked Jane Seymour and an Epic Level Doctor Who Evil Wizard.
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 4:22 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
quote:
Now that you have in some way mentioned The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, I am happy. FAVORITE MOVIE EVER.
Wich one is that?
-The one with the Cyclops and the Wizards cave guarded by a dragon?
-The one with the animated Statue of Kali at the end?
-The one with the Prince that was turned to a monkey and the Minotaur Golem?
Harryhousen movies rule. :)
That would be the one with the Cyclops and the Wizards cave guarded by a dragon.
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