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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
    
 | | 06/19/2006 8:00 AM |
| http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786943475/qid=1150718150/sr=1-27/ref=sr_1_27/103-9004178-3348651?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
Does anyone know what this is? On Amazon monster manuals are hardback and miniatures are mentioned as paperback. It doesn't seem to be any monster manual that I've heard about. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 8:11 AM |
| | I have no clue what that is. Price-wise, it's not the SE Monster Manual (which is $75). It could be a gift set containing MM2, MM3, and Fiend Folio - like the Races of X gift set. | |
Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War
Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 8:37 AM |
| | I thought so as well but the mention of it being paperback is what's really throwing me off. There are very few monster manuals out that are in paperback. IMO not near the amount that would equate to the price they're asking. | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 8:57 AM |
| Non-Random DDM product that people have been clamouring for?
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 9:30 AM |
| | Intruiging. October 10th release, I'm sure it'll be shown at GenCon then. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2353 Posts
Australia
| | 06/19/2006 10:15 AM |
| Amazon often gets little things like paperback/hardcover wrong.
My guess is that it's MM2, MM3 & MM4 in a giftset box
Cheers! | |
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Tasmanian_tiger
Warrior
300 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 11:17 AM |
| | Hmm, those three would be nice, since I still only have MM1. | |
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Plantling
Sneak
147 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 11:29 AM |
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It'd be nice if it was something like Draconomicon, Libris Mortis, Lords of Madness or something of the sort. I would consider getting such a collection, but I'm afraid the price point is a little low for it. | |
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One_Wing
Sergeant
494 Posts
London
| | 06/19/2006 1:41 PM |
| | Wheres the optimism people? A rerun of twenty or so "classic" DDM monsters with nice new statcards would be awesome beyond belief, and would make most RPG players worship wizards. Many of us new players simply cannot easlily afford to buy, and often cant find for sale, relative RPG staples from older sets such as Large red dragon, umber hulk, displacer beast etc. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 3:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by One_Wing
Wheres the optimism people? A rerun of twenty or so "classic" DDM monsters with nice new statcards would be awesome beyond belief, and would make most RPG players worship wizards. Many of us new players simply cannot easlily afford to buy, and often cant find for sale, relative RPG staples from older sets such as Large red dragon, umber hulk, displacer beast etc.
While I certainly wouldn't mind, doing that would completely alienate a large number of collectors. I don't think that's going to happen. | |
Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War
Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 3:05 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
Amazon often gets little things like paperback/hardcover wrong.
My guess is that it's MM2, MM3 & MM4 in a giftset box
Cheers!
I agree with Merric's guess. Since they'd almost definitely need a new printing, it would be nice if they updated the MM2 in it to 3.5 edition. It would also be nice if they applied the eratta to the MM4. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 4:37 PM |
| Hmm... I've been making do with some borrowed copies. I'm been thinking it was time to get at least the FF, and perhaps MMII and III. I do hope it is some combination of II,III,IV, FF, rather than monsters of Faerun etc.
Pat E | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 4:53 PM |
| | If they update MM2 to 3.5 and incorporate errata into MM3, I'll buy it. | |
Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War
Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW
Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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Anaxagoras
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 5:04 PM |
| a set of classic monsters, with different base descriptions (set number, etc,) would possibly be the best thing ever done for the role-playing community
I'd say Umber Hulk, displacer beast, ogre, troll, Large Red Dragon, a handful of orcs, gnolls, and lizardfolk.
Good god I'd buy 4 sets.
As for collectors-well to be blunt screw'em if they are so offended. Real collectors will simply collect those versions as well for completeness...those in this game for a "profit" should leave and suck the soul from some other hobby.
But alas, I doubt that it is in any way minis...would be too good
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 5:58 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anaxagoras
a set of classic monsters, with different base descriptions (set number, etc,) would possibly be the best thing ever done for the role-playing community
I'd say Umber Hulk, displacer beast, ogre, troll, Large Red Dragon, a handful of orcs, gnolls, and lizardfolk.
Good god I'd buy 4 sets.
As for collectors-well to be blunt screw'em if they are so offended. Real collectors will simply collect those versions as well for completeness...those in this game for a "profit" should leave and suck the soul from some other hobby.
But alas, I doubt that it is in any way minis...would be too good
I would, too. However, I'm pretty sure it'll be the MM's slapped together -- as Merric said. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 7:01 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anaxagoras
a set of classic monsters, with different base descriptions (set number, etc,) would possibly be the best thing ever done for the role-playing community
I'd say Umber Hulk, displacer beast, ogre, troll, Large Red Dragon, a handful of orcs, gnolls, and lizardfolk.
Good god I'd buy 4 sets.
You probably would. But then you'd also stop buying D&D Minis in the regular expansions as much, especially if you had your basic undead/humanoids/giants/dragon/demons covered. And this sort of wide-scale fallout would kill off the line.
I do think we'll see monster sets, given enough time. But make no mistake, they will also signal the upcoming death knell of DDM. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6922 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 7:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
If they update MM2 to 3.5 and incorporate errata into MM3, I'll buy it.
Ditto. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/19/2006 7:34 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
quote:
Originally posted by Anaxagoras
a set of classic monsters, with different base descriptions (set number, etc,) would possibly be the best thing ever done for the role-playing community
I'd say Umber Hulk, displacer beast, ogre, troll, Large Red Dragon, a handful of orcs, gnolls, and lizardfolk.
Good god I'd buy 4 sets.
You probably would. But then you'd also stop buying D&D Minis in the regular expansions as much, especially if you had your basic undead/humanoids/giants/dragon/demons covered. And this sort of wide-scale fallout would kill off the line.
I do think we'll see monster sets, given enough time. But make no mistake, they will also signal the upcoming death knell of DDM.
More likley the deathknell of DDM skirmish. | |
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Grey Dragon
Sneak
75 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 7:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
But make no mistake, they will also signal the upcoming death knell of DDM.
Upcoming? I thought the Deathknell of DDM was 3 expansions ago? [:D]
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 7:52 PM |
| | Then why are the Star Wars minis going strong? They have some non-random sets for sale, yes??? | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 9:05 PM |
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Originally posted by Harneloot
Then why are the Star Wars minis going strong? They have some non-random sets for sale, yes???
Star Wars minis (of the 1 inch human variety) are almost at the end of their production for some time(at least) -- WotC is switching to ship battles for the next sets. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 9:10 PM |
| Oh, one more thing -- if you do an Amazon search for "dungeons dragons gift set", you'll notice that the Races Gift Set and the corebook gift set are -exactly- the same price as the "monster gift set". Additionally, an 89.95 miniatures set seems way out of line pricing-wise with other endeavours, including the SW nonrandom stuff.
Given that information, it seems very, very unlikely that the new gift set has anything to do with miniatures. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 9:52 PM |
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Originally posted by Plantling
It'd be nice if it was something like Draconomicon, Libris Mortis, Lords of Madness or something of the sort.
Now that I'd buy!
I'm not so impressed with the MM II-IV, or FF, MM II-III option. It's tempting, but with all the errata that I'd have to maintain...It just wouldn't be worth it so far as I'm concerned.
I'm not hopeful for the monstrous splat books, but it sure would be nice! | |
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ruhk69
Warrior
205 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 10:29 PM |
| | I don't think it's too far fetched to think it would be a paperback MM set of some sort. They put a paperback Players Handbook in a kit recently. It's probably 3 or 4 paperback versions of the different MMs. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 9:17 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
quote:
Originally posted by Harneloot
Then why are the Star Wars minis going strong? They have some non-random sets for sale, yes???
Star Wars minis (of the 1 inch human variety) are almost at the end of their production for some time(at least) -- WotC is switching to ship battles for the next sets.
Almost... The next set is another huge set, Bounty Hunters.
Star Wars Does have 1 non-random pack, with another on the way. However, they are designed as a package to distribute maps and scenario's as much as anything else.
A similar package from DDM might contain A Glabrezu, Tieflling Captian, and 2 abyssal skulkers, and the next set of Fantasic location maps.
Not nearly as exciting as a "greatest hits" of Har/DE/Arch.
Pat E | |
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One_Wing
Sergeant
494 Posts
London
| | 06/20/2006 2:34 PM |
| | They could be more helpful and do something like Orc champion, Cleric of grumsh and two orc warriors though. | |
Thousands of Zulu's, behind You!
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 8:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
A similar package from DDM might contain A Glabrezu, Tieflling Captian, and 2 abyssal skulkers, and the next set of Fantasic location maps.
Hmm. Drop the Glabrezu and put in a Large Red Dragon... [)]
Still, I don't mind the idea, so long as the minis come from discontinued sets. | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/21/2006 10:42 AM |
| | As soon as someone gets an official answer could you please post it? Even though you're not charged, I'd like to know before pre-ordering. | |
Positive trades: Tactician, Talistran, Chad the DragonLordofAiur x2,
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