Omand
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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/29/2006 12:17 AM |
| For those behind firewalls, here is the text:
War of the Dragon Queen Preview 11
Stop the Presses!
by Stephen Schubert
The War of the Dragon Queen is ready to begin. The prerelease tournaments are primed for this weekend, and by this time next week, you'll be able to get your own boosters at your preferred, nearby retail outlet.
Something that you may not notice in all the excitement is some of the behind-the-scenes action that occurred as the set was being packaged. Fresh off of the War Drums release, we spent time reviewing our production process to make sure that the minis in War of the Dragon Queen looked as cool as we could make them. And we noticed a problem -- one of the Rare miniatures from the set didn't have the level of detail we wanted. That mini was the Dragonborn Fighter, a mini inspired by the art on the front cover of Races of the Dragon.
Unpainted
Dragonborn Fighter, unpainted
Master Paint
Dragonborn Fighter paint master
First Production Paint
Dragonborn Fighter first production paint job
Final Production Paint
Dragonborn Fighter final production paint job
Allow me to provide a bit of insight into the production process. After we've agreed to a sculpt for a miniature, the molds are made and we get samples of the final sculpt. We make our minis from a black plastic, so when they come out of the mold, they look much like the dark image of the Dragonborn Fighter "black" shown here.
We send sample sculpts to talented minis painters, in many cases with references for how we'd like the final mini to look, though the painters sometimes have leeway in choosing colors or washes. Because the production minis are limited to a certain number of "paint steps," we encourage our master painters to create the best-looking paint job they can, within the constraints of the limited number of operations. The paint masters always come back looking awesome, and our painters get better and better at creating paint jobs that we can replicate on our production minis. The image to the left shows the Dragonborn Fighter's paint master.
Once we've evaluated the paint masters, each mini's paint job is broken down into its component steps, and each production miniature is each painted using that same process. Invariably, the paint masters are a little too detailed to replicate exactly, so the Art Director works with the production team to reduce steps and fit them into our paint budget. Rarity plays a part, because Rare minis can be more complex than Uncommons, which in turn are more complex than Commons. In most cases, these changes don't significantly impact the appeal of the miniature.
In the case of the Dragonborn Fighter, too many of the highlights and details were removed, producing the figure you see to the right. The resulting paint job didn't meet our expectations, but production and packaging of the set had begun by the time we noticed the issue. Instead of sending the set out with the underpainted Dragonborn Fighter, we instead stopped the presses and sent the Dragonborn Fighters back into the paint process, adding the detail that had been removed.
The result is the great-looking Dragonborn Fighter shown here, a mini that we can be proud of. Unfortunately, however, a small number of boosters had already been packed, and some of those included the mispainted Dragonborn Fighter. So here's the deal -- if you open a booster of War of the Dragon Queen and it includes a Dragonborn Fighter with only a few painted details (one that is primarily silver, with only its blue eyes and blue tabard), you can contact our Customer Service department, and they will replace it with a correctly painted figure.
That's it for this week and for the War of the Dragon Queen previews. I hope you've enjoyed the buildup to this set, and for those of you that are playing in prerelease or release events over the next week or two, I wish you luck and good pulls. The War of the Dragon Queen is on, but we have more war in store a few more months down the road.
About the Author
Stephen Schubert is a Developer with RPG/Minis R&D and is the lead developer for D&D Miniatures starting with next July's War of the Dragon Queen. He's also helped develop many exciting upcoming D&D products, including Player's Handbook II, Monster Manual IV, Tome of Magic, and Tome of Battle!
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/29/2006 12:26 AM |
| I like how Shoe provided a walk through of their trouble shooting procedure for this specific mini. The promise to replace any duds is also nice. Night and day compared to the response A&A fans got about the Messerschmidt/Spitfire mix up.
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5690 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 12:32 AM |
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
Username - he deals in minis
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/29/2006 12:33 AM |
| Thanks to Shoe for providing this article.
Also, to the Mods, we seem to have three threads running about the Preview now. If you want to lock any of mine down, go right ahead.
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Ridureyu
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1622 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 12:36 AM |
| | How much you wanna bet that the mis-painted Dragonborn is going to be worth tons of money? | |
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/29/2006 12:42 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu
How much you wanna bet that the mis-painted Dragonborn is going to be worth tons of money?
Well, some collector will want to have one stocked away for possible speculation or completeness I suppose.
I can't say I will be searching one out. Don't know if I will take them up on their offer either (although it is a rare).
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 12:44 AM |
| I wonder what happens to all the master paints, on display at some WOTC office, given to key people and for that matter is there more than one master paint of some of the minis?
In the back of my head,a scary place to be, I imagine someone somewhere having all the paint masters on display in a secret room only they have access to.[:)]
I would love to see them all displayed in person, but then the envy may eat me alive so maybe not. | | | |
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| | 06/29/2006 1:44 AM |
| | Interesting twist on a preview. Makes sense, since the stats are already out there. That master paint sure does look a lot nicer than the production version. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 2:06 AM |
| | Knowing my (incredibly bad) luck, I will almost certainly end up with one of the unpainted ones. Unless their market price ends up being $30 or something, I'll certainly be contacting the WotC customer support for a replacement. | |
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Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 2:11 AM |
| I very much like that WotC are owning up to any missteps on this set. It's a very good sign for the future (I think).
It's also nice to see the steps (and get a little explanation) that the mini goes through. Sure, it's nothing Earthshattering, but I do like the behind the scenes peaks.
For a future update, I'd love to see a mini that went through several sculpts before one was decided on. [)]
As to what I'd do if I receive a mis-paint: I honestly don't know. I've got three armless minis that need to be replaced, so I would probably send it in with the rest of them and get all of them handled in one shot. | |
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| | 06/29/2006 2:19 AM |
| | I'm very happy Shoe is filling us in on the possible issue with the Dragonborn Fighter prior to the sets release. Very cool that they caught it and had them re-done.... I wonder if the one missing the paint steps will turn out to be a uncommon find or not in the set. Wotc may have unknowingly created an ultra rare version of the figure. [:D] | |
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Adelaide
| | 06/29/2006 5:30 AM |
| Great to see WoTC being proactive about duds.
Looks like they took a lot of comments about wardrums to heart. | |
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606 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 6:30 AM |
| This is kinda funny, I think I like the "Black" best.
Good article too since we already kinda know the set. He slipped a new "Design & Development" article in. | |
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Kypdurron
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1206 Posts
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| | 06/29/2006 6:50 AM |
| | Nice I am feeling rally positive about the quality of this set since seeing this preview. WELL DONE WOTC | |
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lingster
Sergeant
778 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 6:50 AM |
| If I pull an unpainted one, It'll probabally go up onto e-bay and it'll probabally go for $200 after all the crazy bidding is done.
THEN, what'll happen is I won't be able to pull another, or buy one on e-bay for myself... Oh well.. [)] | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 06/29/2006 6:52 AM |
| Awsome preview.
Im glad they fixed the fist production mini. I cant believe it was originally accepted as OK to skip that many paint steps.
I guess complaining about WD did really pay off other than just showing production minis in previews. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:26 AM |
| I think the voice of disdain from the WotC staff about the painting in WD also had a lot to do with the change as well. I am glad they are gamers as well. I would think that would be like a job requirement, or something [:D][:P]
I am wondering what the MMIV says about the Dragonborn and if the other colors of them. I think this would be an interesting re-paint... | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:31 AM |
| OK, I think the 'unpainted' one is currently on the poster as the fixed one looks much better than I originally thought.
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC. Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
And anyone who doesnt want their mispainted Dragonborns, send them my way [:D] Ill take lots of both! | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:37 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
OK, I think the 'unpainted' one is currently on the poster as the fixed one looks much better than I originally thought.
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC.Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
And anyone who doesnt want their mispainted Dragonborns, send them my way [:D] Ill take lots of both!
I agree with this statement whole heartedly!! I said it before but the guessing of what the outlinese could be was awesome! I am not one for the "what do you think is going to be in this set or that set. But seeing the outline and then the slow burn from that really got me jazzed. I hope that is something the "powers that be" consider doing in the future....[:D] | |
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jedijon
Sergeant
474 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:40 AM |
| Well first, the number of dragonborn fighters/pallet of cases is not super high. Being in both Quality Assurance AND manufacturing, I think we can read between the lines of this articles admissions. "A small number of them had already been packed" clearly means that a LARGE number of cases had already been packed--too large an amount to make it cost efficient to rip them open and rework the figures back through the production line. My personal suspicion is that these will be a quite common find for those of you speculating on their e-bay value and your ability to get one. I'd guess that a high proportion of the first wave will contain nothing but this style--otherwise just open up a pallet and rework it. Labor is supposed to be pretty cheap in China. . .
This is definetely the kind of announcment from a trusted rep or this product that I find comforting, although I won't go so far as CooCB does above and find it encouraging (the distinction here being future expectations), AND on top of just guts to make the announcement--the offer to replace what we all consider a defect (e-bay value on this type of thing aside) is appreciated!!!!!!!
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Arnminster
Warrior
296 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:42 AM |
| So we have the Original which is Ultra Rare and the Repaint which is Extra Rare (Or well done as the case may be). This is going to drive all the collectors out ther nuts! [:)]
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Crystal King
Sneak
141 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 7:43 AM |
| | Even though there is a little bit of a difference between the master and the production minis, I am still very happy with the way that the production one turned out. If I had of gotten that first production version, without knowing all of this, I would be one disappointed big boy when I got mine.[:D] Mainly because I thought that last set was going to be a message. After this, I have really high hopes for this entire set! | |
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BigBC
Sergeant
620 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 8:45 AM |
| Well you can't get much worse then the paint jobs in War Drums, but even in looking at the final production version of this figure it seems like there is a lot more they could have done with it. I know it would be impossible to get it like the master paint but we've had alot more colorful RARE figures in past sets. Just using Angelfire (my favorite for paint jobs) as an example, they've used color effectively on the rares and uncommons in the past. Why has it changed so drastically? It seems to be taking a big step back. Do we really want to go back to the Harbinger days?
Harbinger - lots of brown and silver; not much else
Dragoneye - a step in the right direction, but still needs improvement
Archfiends - Nice! Now they're starting to get the idea
Giants of Legend - Now this is color! Who couldn't like these paint jobs?
Aberrations - Not everyone likes the choice of sculpts, but you can't deny the paint jobs were still up there with GoL
Deathknell - Ditto of Aberrations
Angelfire - Best paint jobs yet!
Underdark - Hmmmm. Some of the paint jobs don't look so great (Royal Guard, Monitor Lizard, and some others)
War Drums - GAH! What the F!? So...many...missed...paint steps
War of the Dragon Queen - What happened to the colorful rares and uncommons? Well, next week we will see if production figures can live up to some of the paint masters. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 9:34 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
Knowing my (incredibly bad) luck, I will almost certainly end up with one of the unpainted ones. Unless their market price ends up being $30 or something, I'll certainly be contacting the WotC customer support for a replacement.
If so then I'd happily trade you for it. I like the figure and I'd like one of each so I can differentiate them when used together. | |
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/29/2006 11:32 AM |
| Hello,
The more I think about it, the more this mini is growing on me. I will only want one, but either paint job could work. Of course, the paint master would be ideal, but I am not getting that.
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hardinjmm
Sergeant
573 Posts
Madison, WI
| | 06/29/2006 11:43 AM |
| | I personally didn't mind Wardrums at all, paint-wise. It was one of my favorite sets. | | | |
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 12:29 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC. Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
If you switch out "Greenbacks" for "Shoe" I would totally agree with this statement [:D] | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 12:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco
quote:
Originally posted by Sammael
Knowing my (incredibly bad) luck, I will almost certainly end up with one of the unpainted ones. Unless their market price ends up being $30 or something, I'll certainly be contacting the WotC customer support for a replacement.
If so then I'd happily trade you for it. I like the figure and I'd like one of each so I can differentiate them when used together.
Alas, the costs of trading are too high for me because of my country's idiotic government. | |
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Warlord
10152 Posts
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| | 06/29/2006 12:58 PM |
| | Interesting info on the production process | | | |
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Geddonight
Skirmisher
18 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 1:18 PM |
| I like the preview... it really goes a long way to assuage fears of poor quality paint jobs on our minis. I concur with earlier statements that this preview has probably done more for helping to convince me to buy cases than anything customer service has said with their "continuing to provide excellently painted miniatures".
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Zenako
Commander
3469 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 1:29 PM |
| | Paint masters have made their way onto EBAY on occasion. I know I picked up a few some time back. It is VERY easy to tell them apart since the base is blank on the ones I got. The set list and number was not set at the time they were sent out for painting, thus the blank base bottoms. The Harbinger PM I have are nicer, but not that much nicer than the regular Harb paint jobs. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 1:31 PM |
| Doesn't the HB paint master Mind Flayer have a completely different paint job than the regular one?
I remember GameRocket offering a paint master Human Blackguard for some ridiculous amount of money ($200?). Of course, the amount is not as ridiculous from today's $100-Drizzt perspective, but still... | |
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Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 2:24 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zenako
Paint masters have made their way onto EBAY on occasion. I know I picked up a few some time back. It is VERY easy to tell them apart since the base is blank on the ones I got. The set list and number was not set at the time they were sent out for painting, thus the blank base bottoms. The Harbinger PM I have are nicer, but not that much nicer than the regular Harb paint jobs.
"Paint master" in this case is a bit of a misnomer. You are probably instead looking at "first run" or "pre-production" paints. Many of these were produced in the early phases of the game, and a few of them found their way into boosters. (the same way some promo-version Combat Medics ended up in War Drums) | |
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TYGRHobbes
Sneak
149 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 2:47 PM |
| | Hey! I like those black unpainted minis. How about selling us some of those Shoe for those of us who like to paint minis [:D] | |
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Arnminster
Warrior
296 Posts
| | 06/29/2006 3:26 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zenako
Paint masters have made their way onto EBAY on occasion. I know I picked up a few some time back. It is VERY easy to tell them apart since the base is blank on the ones I got. The set list and number was not set at the time they were sent out for painting, thus the blank base bottoms. The Harbinger PM I have are nicer, but not that much nicer than the regular Harb paint jobs.
I picked up the Arcane Archer when those showed up on Ebay. I though they were the "examples" that the painters used to paint the final production run mini. The paint job was a little better then the final production run. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3168 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 12:47 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC. Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
Maybe not the best thing, but they certainly took that lemon and made some yummy lemonade.
I too hope that they do the silhouette thing again for future sets. That was big fun to speculate, and generated a lot of interesting funny discussion. I will always look at the Mountain Troll and think of Sigmund the Sea Monster with a Guitar. [:D]
If the folks at WotC see The Greenback Affair (soon to be a novel by Robert Ludlum) as a learning experience, it may well be one the best things that could have happened for all of us.
To the topic: Preview 11 was a very nice solution to the "nothing left to really preview" problem, and perhaps a subtle corporate mea culpa for the infamous War Drums Paintjobs.
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 1:11 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kyrin
I too hope that they do the silhouette thing again for future sets. That was big fun to speculate, and generated a lot of interesting funny discussion. I will always look at the Mountain Troll and think of Sigmund the Sea Monster with a Guitar. [:D]
Oh, if only. I really enjoyed the silhouette game. And, as an added bonus, it will give WotC valuable market research as we start calling out our most desired (or feared) minis in this PVC Rorschach test.
If Wizards aren't willing to do the silhouette game with all the minis (nice though it would be, I understand why they may not wish to do so), it'd be neat to see perhaps the silhouette of one mini for the next week's preview (ex: in Blood War we might see the Nessian Warhound, Bearded Devil Berserker and the Silhouette for a Hellcat).
We'd better hope 2.0 is up and running by then, I don't think that the servers now would handle it. | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 2:08 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC. Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
If you switch out "Greenbacks" for "Shoe" I would totally agree with this statement [:D]
No, let's be honest. Greenbacks really ARE the best thing for this game, as is plastic.
Greenbacks and plastic. | |
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Ridureyu
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| | 06/30/2006 2:10 AM |
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Originally posted by lurkinglidda
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Originally posted by Vash
Anyone else think that, in a way, the Greenbacks were the best thing to happen to WotC. Think about it, the previews for this set have been awesome and seem to have gotten a revitilization. Preview X, and weekly previews talking about different things other than just stats. This kinda of stuff should be done from now on, helps freshen the anticipation for a set.
If you switch out "Greenbacks" for "Shoe" I would totally agree with this statement [:D]
No, let's be honest. Greenbacks really ARE the best thing for this game, as is plastic.
Greenbacks and plastic. | |
Owner of The Original Rust Monsters!
DDM: Harbinger: 76/80 Dragoneye: 60/60 Archfiends: 56/60 GoL: 72/72 Aberrations: 60/60 Deathknell: 60/60 Angelfire: 60/60 Underdark: 60/60 War Drums: 60/60 War of the Dragon Queen: 60/60 Blood War: 60/60, Unhallowed: 60/60 Night Below: 60/60 Desert of Desolation: 60/60 Dungeons of Dread: 60/60 Against the Giants: 60/60
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