Talistran
Warrior
310 Posts
    
 | | 06/30/2006 6:00 PM |
| So, let me continue the story in more detail and fill in a few holes, so you slowly get the results of the contest.
Imagine that...
You were scrounging through a warehouse full of tools and boxes of items lost through the UPS / Fed Ex, etc carriers and then this warehouse bought those items for CHEAP and then sold them for CHEAP + $1. And that you saw 14 cases of Harbinger D&D minis in the corner.
Because I just did. A well-known national package company had 14 cases of Harbinger in their warehouse that they couldn't deliver years ago.
It has been sitting in this outlet's warehouse for the last several years until I, looking for some power tools (I regularly buy from this place for CHEAP $$$), saw them sitting in a corner.
Needless to say, I was EXCITED.
I asked them what they wanted for it... and John, the supervisor for the day who was helping me by telling me how much the tools I were looking at would cost me, tells me that I can have them for $20 a box... before he could finish what he was saying, I said "I'll take them!" and then he finishes "and if you take them all, I can give you 25% off the total." and I immediately said YES again when they quoted the price to me for all 14.
So, I forget about all the tools (Brand New Craftsman Table Saws for $5-10, etc) and start carrying the cases towards the counter. As we're checking out, he says well, I can't give you 25%, but I can give you 20% off instead.
To which I, the excited haggler timidly ask... "how about we split the difference?"
So he rings me up for 14 boxes at $20 each (a pretty flat number)($280) and then applies the discount for buying them all so that I end up paying $217 for all 14 cases.
$217 divided by 14 cases = $15.50 per case.
$15.50 per case divided by 15 boosters =
$0.96875 per booster... or rounded to $0.97 cents.
So... Lantis, you were CLOSE... only off by 1 penny with your guess of $0.98 cents.
But, I am feeling generous so... instead of just sending one deathknell booster to Lantis, I am going to send one to Lantis, and to Anothermullen (first guesser of $0.99 cents) and to WakeXX (first guesser of $0.95 cents).
So, if you gents or ladies would kindly email me your address, I'll get those out to you this upcoming week (mailing after Wednesday).
Thanks to all who played and were good sports... I had a lot of fun.
I don't know what I am going to do with the cases yet, but maybe I'll start a thread for suggestions.
One option I am thinking about is doing a big draft (where I keep the minis, but people can open and play with them for free)...
Or selling the cases... or something. I don't know. We'll talk more.
Congrats again to all and thanks for playing! Pretty damn close!
Semper Fidelis,
Kent
EDITED TO ADD: If Lantis or Anothermullen or WakeXX feel insulted in any way by the secondary prize, please let me know and I'll be sure to not send it. [:p] | |
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Daniel_Tick
Warrior
220 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:05 PM |
| Needless to say, you're a lucky bastard, but a very generous person nonetheless!
Congratz to the winners!
IF you're taking suggestions, how about a Vintage Draft at GenCon?
Should be fun! [:D] | |
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sage_raistlin
Sergeant
377 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:06 PM |
| OMFG, talk about a find, I'm going to go cry in the corner now over that........
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Zaukrie
Underboss
2007 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:07 PM |
| Um, holy @#$% that is amazing.
What's the name of this outfit again? | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:07 PM |
| excellent story, makes me want to do some research [:D]
You should sell them, at least some, hell, one will most likely triple your spending.
I thought there were 16 booster per case. In any case, seling single minis (1500+) could also earn you a hell of a lot of money and that way you can keep what you want [)]
Let me know if you plan on selling or eBaying or anything [:D] | |
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ArchMage7
Sergeant
358 Posts
CA, USA
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Caustic_Mouse
Sergeant
464 Posts
Tooele, Ut
| | 06/30/2006 6:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Talistran
One option I am thinking about is doing a big draft (where I keep the minis, but people can open and play with them for free)...
I want in. Great find! | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 06/30/2006 6:10 PM |
| | So what was the name of that warehouse outlet...maybe they have one in my neighbourhood.... | |
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angelfiend
Sneak
93 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:10 PM |
| There were only 15 boosters in each case? Oh, nevermind. You did the math for 16. Well, we were all wrong. Bummer. And to think I was .09 cents off.
What is this crazy outlet called by the way? | |
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Lady-Bast
Warrior
242 Posts
Central Illinois
| | 06/30/2006 6:11 PM |
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Thanks Kent for the contest. Man, did it ever get some attention!
Too bad no one won a case though. [:(]
You gotta amazing (understatment) deal!!!
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Oryan77
Sergeant
957 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:12 PM |
| Ah rats, I was really hoping to see someone nail that price and win a whole case! So close!
Heck, for some odd reason I'm even feeling lucky for only being 4 cents short. I wasn't thinking about rounding the number off (not that it mattered).
Ok, now all I can hope for is that one of you 3 guys gets a Beholder in that booster [:p]
I'm not sure what you should do with those cases. It depends on if you want to be generous or if you want to make top dollar. Either way, I think you should open them and sell them individually (boosters or minis). The top dollar method would be to sell them...well...for top dollar. You can make a ton of cash. The generous method would be to spread them around the community by selling each booster or mini for half of what it's worth. You'd still make a ton of cash.
But whatever you do, be prepared to deal with even more A-holes giving you a hard time while they try to get your minis than you were when you simply posted a contest. [V] | |
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byrns
Sneak
66 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:14 PM |
| Thanks for running the contest. I was sooo close at only $.03 off.
If someone doesn't want thier booster I'll take it! [:D] | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:14 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Beer Baron
So what was the name of that warehouse outlet...maybe they have one in my neighbourhood....
heh heh, I have asked this question yesterday already, people should understand (something I did not) that Talistran makes money from that venture so perhaps he is not willing to share the info for that simple reason and I can respect that...it is nothing hard to find if you know how to look [)]
Thanks for the contest Talistran, it was fun even tho I guessed 12 boosters per case...duh! [B)] | |
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HailSpork
Sergeant
545 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:15 PM |
| Can you tell us about buying from outlets like that? Perhaps more of us can find treasure troves (DDM related or not)...
Anyway, thanks for running the game. It's a shame a few people had to try to ruin it for the rest of us... Congrats to the winners. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:17 PM |
| First of all, congratulations to the winners!
What I would do with the cases is this:
1) Immediately open one of them. If pleased with the rares, I'd stop there and perhaps put one more away to open in a couple of years. If not pleased, I'd open another one.
2) Immediately sell 1 of them on eBay to finance purchasing for the next 2 sets (6 WDQ cases and 4 BW cases).
3) Put 3 more away to be sold at later dates (and to finance further DDM purchases).
4) Organize an exclusive vintage limited tournament (entry fee $30-$50) for up to 20 players (that's 40 boosters, or 8 boosters short of 3 cases; the winner would get 4 of the remaining boosters as a reward, 2nd place 2 boosters, and 3rd and 4th place 1 booster each).
5) Break up 2 cases (32 boosters) and sell boosters to Maxminis members at their retail price, with a limit of 3 boosters per member.
6) Put the last 3 cases into a bank vault. | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/30/2006 6:24 PM |
| | 2 cents off!lol,Nice![)][xx(][)]Thanks for throwing the contest,it's been a blast![:D] | | | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5101 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/30/2006 6:27 PM |
| Congratulations to the winners.
What a find! I'd probably intend to sell the cases on ebay for a ridiculous amount of money (I could pay off my student loans...almost), but I know that if I actually had the cases at hand, they'd be opened and the minis spilling all over the place as I pondered my own inanity [:D]
Whatever you decide to do with them, just be sure you enjoy it [^] | |
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Oryan77
Sergeant
957 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 6:39 PM |
| | Now that I think about it, you should open each booster and dump the bagged minis in an empty pool. Then swim in them. That way you'll be the only one in existence to have ever had the chance to swim in bagged Harbinger minis. You're like a DDM god now! | |
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IHawk
Underboss
1054 Posts
Lisle, Illinois
| | 06/30/2006 6:46 PM |
| Well 20 bucks a case, that is....i can't even come
up with a descriptive enough word so...CRAZY.
I would have stopped at the casino on the way home
and put some dough down the roulette table or stopped
to get a lottery ticket or something. [:D]
I am in agreement with zenthrus...have fun whatever
you do and ignore the rest, well after you read this
anyway.
Mark | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 06/30/2006 6:56 PM |
| There is another contest going on in crafter's corner called the "Uncommon Painting Challenge 2"http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22156[/url] It's a little smaller this time around than last. But it is a good thing and I hope to see it continue.
One of this site's best painters "smithmeg" is doing the work and donating one of the rare minis from his own collection as a prize.
If I could be so bold a to make a suggestion, and solicit a donation for a future contest. This is the second painting contest in as many months. The crafters corner guys are planning on running it every second month or so. I've offered to donate a booster or 2 from my own shop, and the others are donating rares from their own collections, or their own repainted minis.
If you were to donate a case of Harbinger to the cause, or even just 1 booster as a 1 time donation, this could help to elevate this contest on this site. A case of Harbinger (16 boosters) awarded at a rate of 1 booster every 2 months for a different repaint contest, could last crafters corner almost 3 years. I'd also petition to suggest that we name the contest the "Talistran Uncommon Painting Challenge" or something like that. This could give a chance at a Harbinger booster to a large audience, and would be most appreciated by the maxminis community.
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 06/30/2006 6:56 PM |
| Thanks for the contest. [:D]
Congrats to the winners. [:D]
Congrats on such a luck find. [:D]
Now I'm off to the Airport, Flea Market, any warwhouse I can find to scrounge around for lost cases of DDM mini booster. [:p]
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Venport
Sergeant
739 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 7:02 PM |
| | How amazing.... Thanks for giving us a chance at getting a case... | |
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Hejas
Sergeant
435 Posts
Poland
| | 06/30/2006 7:14 PM |
| Man... I've never opened a Harbinger booster in my current life. Wouldn't you sell just one or two of them? (I mean for a price that 17yr old can afford [:P]) I wanted to send you an e-mail but I guess your mail is flooded with them already.
Anyway: Congratulations for your find again. That's really great of you that you gave us all a chance to share your luck with you... But it was probably your only chance not to become "universally hated" for your damn luck. [xx(][)] (like the common psionic thing from WotDQ)
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Orion72
Underboss
1917 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 8:57 PM |
| | I didn't post my guess, but it would've been far over the mark. Congrats on the find, Kent, and congrats to the winners. All I can do is offer a fair price for the handful of Orc Warriors and Orc Spearfighters I still need. Oh, and an Orc Archer that doesn't cost $8 trillion. | | | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 9:39 PM |
| Congradulations winners!
And Congratz again Talistran for the incredible deal.
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 9:47 PM |
| Woo-hoo! I guessed the per case right and then just screwed up math from there. I never considered a discount on top, I just added the wrong tax rate as well. Still I had a blast. Such a cool thing to do, your offer. [:D]
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dumdragon
Sergeant
684 Posts
Amityville, NY
| | 06/30/2006 10:17 PM |
| Congratz to all.
Talistran:
Thanks for the game.
Enjoy your spoils.
And most importantly, keep me in mind if you decide so crack some cases and sell/auction off some boosters [)] | |
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Talistran
Warrior
310 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 10:30 PM |
| I make a significant living off of visiting this warehouse and reselling items from it. Unfortunately, I cannot share that secret or I have a huge potential loss of income.
I hope you understand. They have no more DDM stuff at this particular warehouse outlet though.
But, for those around the country... Airports, Carriers (UPS / Fed Ex, etc) have millions of "lost" packages every year. Shipping Address Stickers fall off during sorting and suddenly they can't deliver them. Someone puts the wrong address on the package to be delivered and thus the address is wrong. Or a hundred other stories on why those packages never show up. They have outlets throughout the US for people to buy them at auction. That is all this particular warehouse is. They buy packages from these places (airports do the same thing with unclaimed luggage) and then resell them.
That is all this is.
So, if you feel passionate about it, go find one or two and start looking. I earn far more scrounging these places than I do at my regular job, but you can't leave a family business ;)
Anyways, keep the ideas coming. I have some great offers so far from official and unofficial channels, some of which I am taking quite seriously.
We'll see what happens.
Thanks again and get me your addresses folks!
Kent / Talistran
Thanks again
Good luck,
Kent
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Fun little game...
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/30/2006 10:42 PM |
| | I'm seriously considering searching these lost goods warehouses for product...even if I don't find booster cases I may find some cool stuff anyways![:D] | | | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 10:51 PM |
| | Now it will be a panic of everyone trying to find warehouses heh. Especially if people can come across cases of Harb and Archfiends. Just imagine the possibilities =). Luckily I have enough, but I know there's plenty of people who would want more from these sets. | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/30/2006 11:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
Now it will be a panic of everyone trying to find warehouses heh. Especially if people can come across cases of Harb and Archfiends. Just imagine the possibilities =). Luckily I have enough, but I know there's plenty of people who would want more from these sets.
Might as well check out the ones in your area,you never know.I already searched all the gaming/bookstores/video game stores that might carry DDM for loose boosters in the area. | | | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11768 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/30/2006 11:14 PM |
| | What a find. What a find. That's like finding King Tut's tomb for us DDM collectors. | |
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yack
Commander
3270 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 06/30/2006 11:16 PM |
| Wow I blink and take some time off the boards getting ready for the weekend...celebrating Germany and I missed this!
Great Gosh good find!!! | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 11:20 PM |
| I't entirely up to you what you do with them Talisran but I still think what would be cool is to do a vintage tournament at a major gaming convention. Charging a modest fee and I'm sure you'd get some takers. Maybe GenCon SoCal or something would let you do one. Just a thought.
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King O Vrock
Sergeant
397 Posts
| | 06/30/2006 11:25 PM |
| As for what to do with the 14 cases:
Have a new contest.
Open all 14 cases and catalog all the miniatures. Keeping in mind Harbinger's completely random distributions, each contestant has to guess the exact number of each rare gleaned from the total cases. Anyone able to do that gets 1 rare of their choice.
Then you sell the rest individually and move to the bahamas! | |
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Damien the Bloodfeaster
Sergeant
885 Posts
Portland, OR
| | 07/01/2006 12:39 AM |
| If you're going to GenCon Indy, a case (or even a few boosters) would make a great prize to add to the pool for the Maxminis draft game.
And congratulations on your find!! | | | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 07/01/2006 12:46 AM |
| Thanks for the contest, Talistran.
I wonder if I could find any of those places locally...
Oops. I almost forgot to congratulate the winners...Congrats, guys! | |
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Thokk
Warrior
321 Posts
| | 07/01/2006 1:20 AM |
| | Thanks for doing the contest! You are an EXTREMELY generous man and deserve finding those cases! Enjoy whatever you do with them and don't be surprised if you see people mumbling about minis at the warehouse next time [)] | |
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Zenako
Commander
3469 Posts
| | 07/01/2006 2:04 AM |
| Glad to see my logic of $1 a booster was pretty spot on from the wholesaler warehouse...
It is amazing that noone else spotted those before you.
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Built the addition for this addiction, now on to the "gaming table" project....
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 07/01/2006 2:19 AM |
| Congrats & wow....
Disapear from the boards for a day or two and miss out
Glad your comp catered to one and all regardless of locale though. Was generous of you.
[:D] | |
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