Oryan77
Sergeant
955 Posts
    
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| Who is as lame as I am and likes to cherry-pick boosters from their own cases before opening all of the boosters?
I like to test my accuracy by opening a case, picking up each booster, weighing it in my hand, squeezing the sides, and then setting them in 3 stacks. One for the light boosters, one for the ones that feel "in-between", and then ones that feel the heaviest/thickest. Then I tear into all of them.
I really don't get anything out of this other than knowing how much more of a geek my gf would think I am if she knew. With WD, I was right about pulling a Hill Giant about half of the time. With Underdark, I was wrong 100% of the time when I thought I pulled a Balor...because I didn't pull a single Balor!
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Oryan77
Sergeant
955 Posts
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Originally posted by Kithmaker
Baby eater! Even your own babies!
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/06/2006 8:57 PM |
| I cherry picked in a store once... and it still makes me feel dirty.
However, I do study the new boosters I am opening to identify things that might make them easier to cherry pick. For instance, I can already tell you the exact weight of the Aspect of Tiamat and Bluespawn Godslayer... but I won't because I don't share the information that helps people cherry pick. Instead, I pass along methdos people can use to stop cherry picking... | |
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
325 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 07/06/2006 9:48 PM |
| | I don't cherry pick. Closest I've come is separating boxes from my cases by box art and then opening them from my favorite to least favorite boxes. Recently, however, I've been doing that for each layer of boxes in a case. Pick the best, middle, worst art, then repeat. | |
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yack
Commander
3259 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 07/06/2006 9:51 PM |
| | I shake them from my case and try too guess it..then open it. | |
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Narethkraag
Sergeant
848 Posts
| | 07/06/2006 10:04 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Oryan77
Who is as lame as I am and likes to cherry-pick boosters from their own cases before opening all of the boosters?
I like to test my accuracy by opening a case, picking up each booster, weighing it in my hand, squeezing the sides, and then setting them in 3 stacks. One for the light boosters, one for the ones that feel "in-between", and then ones that feel the heaviest/thickest. Then I tear into all of them.
I really don't get anything out of this other than knowing how much more of a geek my gf would think I am if she knew. With WD, I was right about pulling a Hill Giant about half of the time. With Underdark, I was wrong 100% of the time when I thought I pulled a Balor...because I didn't pull a single Balor!
it sounds kind of strange but as long as they are your cases it sounds ok to me...... | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/06/2006 10:35 PM |
| | Is it cherry-picking when I alternate between only buying boosters of my favourite artwork and buying them so that I have all of the artwork and try to have them as close in number as possible afterwards?[:p] | |
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Ethandrul
Warrior
301 Posts
| | 07/06/2006 10:45 PM |
| | my buddy and me went to buy a case today- there were 2 boosters on the wall- I asked if any rares were pulled- he said one had been- so, we opened our case til we found both rare huges- then swapped out 2 boosters for the ones on the wall- it netted us a stirge and a black dragon- ironically both regular rares were the same as ones we had already pulled ( tordek and spellscale) so i got huge black, tordek, spell scale, that fake urthok dude- and my buddy got tiamat, bahumet, tordek spellscale and wizened watcher. | |
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SYB
Warrior
328 Posts
| | 07/06/2006 11:56 PM |
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Originally posted by Ethandrul
my buddy and me went to buy a case today- there were 2 boosters on the wall- I asked if any rares were pulled- he said one had been- so, we opened our case til we found both rare huges- then swapped out 2 boosters for the ones on the wall- it netted us a stirge and a black dragon- ironically both regular rares were the same as ones we had already pulled ( tordek and spellscale) so i got huge black, tordek, spell scale, that fake urthok dude- and my buddy got tiamat, bahumet, tordek spellscale and wizened watcher.
Wow. That is about half a step from fraud and might very well fit into the definition of "bait and switch". Even if it isn't quite illegal, it is rude and underhanded and I am dumbfounded why the store owner/clerk would let you do that. If I witnessed that, I would never buy from that store again.
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Dordledum
Commander
3393 Posts
Netherlands
| | 07/07/2006 2:53 AM |
| ouch, this thread could get ugly fast.
I never cherrypick from stores, but i do admit that while opening cases at home, I tend to open the heaviest boosters last!
D.
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 3:00 AM |
| | I stopped cherry-picking my cases after not pulling a Beholder from my Deathknell case. Also, the lightest booster turned out to contain a LBD. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 3:05 AM |
| I really think switching boosters is a pretty messed up thing to do, especially if the LGS just sat there and watched you. Its just a messed up situation to do something like that.
I have no problem with someone picking up a booster and feeling it, and then deciding to buy it *shrug*. | |
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yack
Commander
3259 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 07/07/2006 7:04 AM |
| Why did this topic go this way it was about Cherrypicking your case when you get home!!! AKA shake your already bought boosters.
Sammael I feel your pain I never have pulled a beholder had too buy/trade for all 3. [:(] | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 07/07/2006 7:16 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
I really think switching boosters is a pretty messed up thing to do, especially if the LGS just sat there and watched you. Its just a messed up situation to do something like that.
I have no problem with someone picking up a booster and feeling it, and then deciding to buy it *shrug*.
Ditto.
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IHawk
Underboss
1054 Posts
Lisle, Illinois
| | 07/07/2006 7:59 AM |
| Ya, when we get our cases, my wife & I try to figure
out what is inside before we open them...figuring on the
weight and how it shakes. With the huges, we'll just have
to see...get them on monday.
I don't buy boosters in the stores anymore becuase of
cheery picked over boxes. We learned our lesson with
dragoneye & harbinger.
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Ethandrul
Warrior
301 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 8:23 AM |
| fraud? bah! I asked- they agreed- we yold them there was 2 rares/ case. poor management? sure. fraud? no. now- If he told the next person who asked that no rares had been pulled- that would be different.
Funny thing though- the manager wanted to see hoe the tiamat bosster felt- so he could cherry pick them later. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3393 Posts
Netherlands
| | 07/07/2006 8:29 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ethandrul
fraud? bah! I asked- they agreed- we yold them there was 2 rares/ case. poor management? sure. fraud? no. now- If he told the next person who asked that no rares had been pulled- that would be different.
Funny thing though- the manager wanted to see hoe the tiamat bosster felt- so he could cherry pick them later.
but what if the next customer thought: hey cool, a new set, i'll buy a booster. and he forgets to ask the shopkeeper? he'll be dissapointed indeed.
this is worse than cherrypicking. remind me of not buying there!
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Rising Dragon
Sneak
91 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 8:42 AM |
| | fraud? no. Unethical? Yes. You and the shopkeeper just robed unsuspecting costomer his chance of getting a huge rare. If ever found out a store was pulling a stunt like to this, I would stop going to that store. | |
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Zoons
Underboss
1066 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 8:56 AM |
| | Which store was that exactly? I want to make sure I don't accidentally shop there. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 07/07/2006 8:56 AM |
| When I open my cases I just go left-to-right across the top...then the next row and so on.
I dont see a need to shake and weigh in my hand to guess whats inside...I already own the box so theres no putting it back to find a heavier/not as much sliding around/lighter one at this point.
Besides opening cases takes me forever as it is with looking over every mini to make sure they arent broke, putting the cards in order, opening all the littl eplastic bags, marking up my Have/Want list ect. | |
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Tooninki
Warrior
272 Posts
Finland
| | 07/07/2006 9:17 AM |
| Cherry hunting in stores, no good, in home with your own boosters go ahead! ΖD]
I got lucky today, our store got WotDQ cases (3) yesterday, clerk opened one, got Eldritch giant, i bought one case (still unopened) and 3 single boosters 8 boosters for our fun sealed game tomorrow and 1 for me!
there was 3 boosters on the self and 1 whole case in the backroom, clerk opened the case and handed me 2 boosters from the case and 1 from the self, i opened my booster (the one from the self) and... Bahamut and LGD! [:D]
So we could have 4 huge rares (2 for certain) in our 8 boosters witch are calling to me right now, i just hope that i can keep my hands off them until our game starts... [:p] | |
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 1:57 PM |
| | I always open my heavy boosters last, since I mainly RPG (and can paint), and large monsters are much more valuable to me than mediocrely painted PC types that I can get cheap from reaper or rakham. | |
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Tooninki
Warrior
272 Posts
Finland
| | 07/07/2006 2:05 PM |
| | BTW My friend flashed me his Eldritch giant,it is HEAVY! Heavier than Tiamat? cos i havent seen Tiamat yet... | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 2:08 PM |
| I usually Cherry Pick my own cases.
It gives kind of a buildup for me. I open something lite and junk pops out, it's nice to think to myself "Don't worry, there's still those 4 monster boosters sitting over there" | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 2:30 PM |
| I try to cherry pick my own cases but i'm not very good at it.[:D]
The thrill of opening the booster is magnified by the thrill of guessing right. Unfortunatly I almost never guess right I just don't have the cherry picking skills. That's why,amoung other reasons, I never cherry pick the very few boosters I buy in stores. | | | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/07/2006 4:59 PM |
| If you feel you (and the store) did nothing wrong, I would love for you to let us all know the name of the store, the location of the store, and the person behind the counter at the time you made this switch.
As for whather your actions constitute fraud: that depends upon the definition. There are legal definitions, and then there are the definitions used by the people in line behind you that decide to kick your %#$@. When it comes down to $20 products, the second definition tends to be more relevant.
Legal =/= ethical. | |
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Oryan77
Sergeant
955 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 6:56 PM |
| | If an employee at a LGS would allow a customer to swap boosters like that, I wonder if they actually pick through booster like that on their own. Do they open boosters and sell singles in that shop? | |
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Ethandrul
Warrior
301 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 8:20 PM |
| first of all- it was gauntlet games in lincoln nebraska- it was no different then if I wanted to buy 6 packs- asked him- have any rares from those been bought? then saying- ok i will take 2 from this pile, now i'll take 2 more- now, i'll take those 2. it's not fraud, its maximizing the efficiency of my booster choices. if you knew 1 pack was a rare and one might be a rare would you honestly not buy the rare one?
a year ago- the barnes and noble near me had an issue with packs being opened. I went in to buy some and asked the counter persone to check and make sure all the pieces were there.
well, the rare sucked so i didnt buy it.
i used all tools and information at my disposal to make a perchasing decision.
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 11:18 PM |
| | Whenever I open my boosters, I pretty much always just open them as fast as I can. I never weigh them, etc. I guess I should start doing it, just to see if I can notice a difference in things. | |
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King O Vrock
Sergeant
397 Posts
| | 07/07/2006 11:24 PM |
| Back in the day (before huge uncommons) I would actually get my kitchen scale out and weight each booster. Then I would open the lightest ones first, bitch about my 3rd Drizzt (who the hell knew then...) and look forward to openeing the 12 ouncer that might have my large red dragon...
*edit* i guess that doesn't make much sense since those are minis from 2 different sets.
Oh well, you get the point.. | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10147 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 07/07/2006 11:35 PM |
| | I hefted each booster I got from my 3 cases to take a guess....they all felt about the same to me. | | | |
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Prince o the Raven Banner
Sergeant
606 Posts
| | 07/08/2006 4:32 AM |
| I've only gotten 1 case, and yes, I cherry picked it.
Rant/
I am a cherry picker.
A skirmish cherry picker. After my sixth HGB I started to grab the lightest boosters in the hopes that I'd get Flameskulls and Sacred Watchers. It worked for the Skulls, still no watchers.
Is it still Cherry Picking if I am not going for the heaviest boxes?
I've got a Balor, 2 AoK, and 2 Iron Golems (only 1 gained through picking). Not a single freakin HH though. I ONLY go light on Underdark as a result.
I give alot of C/UC minis away, I have like 10 "good" minis out on loan right now. Despite the fact that I spend (way too much) time on a trade site, I rarely trade.
To be perfectly honest, my FLGS gave me a heads up on the rares pulled from the 1 case they got today. I still bought 2 boosters though, I am an addict. Were they "cheating"? No, they were providing me with info to keep my buisness. I "could" always go buy a case online, for a steep discount. I don't, because I like them and supporting small buisness is a good thing.
The owner's wife once even put boosters on a postal scale! Because I stood there for a good 5 minutes trying to figure out which one had the best "Rare Mojo". I bought the one in the middle of the 3.2oz. to 3.9oz weight scale because of what I was wanting at the time. I thought that was really funny, and actually laid off the metaphysical, psychic probing of booster content for a while.
My Mojo was not so good today.
Why? I am a great Cherry Picker.
Because WotC is on to me. Elemental Walls weigh more than Dragons. Flame skulls counteract HGB's. And more importantly Rares can be small. So With U/C larges and skirmish pieces in all 3 rarity slots it is a crap shoot even when I cherry pick.
This baby eating nonsense was valid in the days of Harbinger to Deathknell. It is just not as valid now. Funny thing is the most vocal Anti-Pickers buy cases online. I am supporting the hobby at the grass roots level! And I teach the Youngins' too, at least the cool, polite ones. Because $14.00 is alot of money when your ten.
I doubt it is the ten year olds that people worry about, however. It is themselves and how much the possible Rare will go up in value. Uhh dude if it is an investment, go see an investment banker/financial planner. These are TOYS.
End Rant/
Yes I am that lame.
Also, while swapping boosters is kinda shady. He did buy his cases from the locals, at the locals markup. Karma will bite him in the butt if needed. And the Huge rares in WotDQ are less useful than the Huge uncommons RPG wise. So lets scold him and be done with it. The Aspects are overpowered Skirmish wise and I don't think that they will prove to be good for the Epic Format. So this is a moot point. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3168 Posts
| | 07/08/2006 8:03 AM |
| I was able to control my mini-lust enough to do a little hefting as I opened my cases. The light ones usually had a DBeast Pack Lord in them, although one was a Dracolich. That is one light huge mini.
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