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07/14/2006 8:51 AM  
At last we have developed and released a version of Bifur that doesn't need the user to own a copy of MS Access 2003. [:p]

The new version comes in two formats - one for those who own MS Access 2002/3, and one for those who don't. The latter version includes a runtime version of MS Access 2003 and is thus much larger than the first one (8MB v 40MB). The runtime version requires an install step - unzip the file into a folder and run the resulting "SETUP" file.

The new version has a lot of collection functionality added:
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* Ability to track wants and haves in the Collection Management screen
Import facility from Maxminis includes the collection fields (Want and Have).
* Import facility for the consolidated costs from Gamesters.ca
* Reports for collections - 1) List of Haves/Wants, 2) Consolidated Collection report - includes total value of your collection based on Gamesters, 3) Haves list with all stats and 4) Wants list with all stats.


As usual - let us know what you think. Once we have settled this version we'll start on more suggested functionality.

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Special thanks to Luc for his reporting and collection ideas.

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07/14/2006 9:04 AM  
I'm still downloading the file (my DSL is usually puttering along at about 660), but, I'll thank you ahead of time.

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07/14/2006 9:08 AM  
:so excited:


Man I hope this works!

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07/14/2006 9:51 AM  
Maybe it's just me and my computer, but:

I have MS Access 2002 and I cannot open the small one (for those who own MS Access 2002/3). I am told:

The database is an unrecognized format.

The database may have been used with a later version of Microsoft Access than the one you are using.

I bring this up because I still have Bifur v2.10.2 and it works fine. Did you do something different for the v3.10.0?

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07/14/2006 10:15 AM  
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Originally posted by agcooper1

Maybe it's just me and my computer, but:

I have MS Access 2002 and I cannot open the small one (for those who own MS Access 2002/3). I am told:

The database is an unrecognized format.

The database may have been used with a later version of Microsoft Access than the one you are using.

I bring this up because I still have Bifur v2.10.2 and it works fine. Did you do something different for the v3.10.0?




That should work - that's how it is here on my machine. Have you unzipped it?

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07/14/2006 10:58 AM  
Yeah, I unzipped it. I'm not sure if this means anything, but the file has ".mde" listed as its extension instead of ".mdb". I get the same results whether I use open it as a ".mde" or if I change it to ".mdb".

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07/14/2006 11:02 AM  
I DL the access version it says

"The viual baisc for applications project in data base is corrupt"

any ideas?

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07/14/2006 11:08 AM  
Very strange - I'll re-release a version without the .MDE functionality. Very sorry. Check online in 1 hour or so. [:(]

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07/14/2006 11:12 AM  
NO reason to be sorry i love this program than you for all that you do for the DDM community....

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07/14/2006 11:38 AM  
awesome

hopefully i can finally use this at work


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07/14/2006 12:16 PM  
Thanks!!!

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07/14/2006 12:28 PM  
New version up.... hopefully will fix those strange behaviours.

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07/14/2006 4:43 PM  
works for me now

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07/14/2006 4:48 PM  
Thank you for going to the effort to hook up those of us who use non-MS products for office functionality.

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07/14/2006 5:03 PM  
wont even install on my work pc

need admin authority.. but my pc is the only pc my admin doesnt know the pw to cuz he installed it differently :o


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07/14/2006 5:07 PM  
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Originally posted by Wakalimasu

wont even install on my work pc

need admin authority.. but my pc is the only pc my admin doesnt know the pw to cuz he installed it differently :o




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07/14/2006 5:10 PM  
I attempted to use the freestanding version. It downloaded and installed just fine.

When I launch it, it opens (after several warnings about "unsafe references") and hangs. Eventually I get the message "Your Bifur Warband Editor, Advanced database or project contains a missing or broken reference to the file 'COMCTL32.OCX' version 1.3. * To ensure that your database or project works properly, you must fix this reference."

Then I have to kill the Bifur process.

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07/14/2006 5:29 PM  
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Originally posted by Wayne

I attempted to use the freestanding version. It downloaded and installed just fine.

When I launch it, it opens (after several warnings about "unsafe references") and hangs. Eventually I get the message "Your Bifur Warband Editor, Advanced database or project contains a missing or broken reference to the file 'COMCTL32.OCX' version 1.3. * To ensure that your database or project works properly, you must fix this reference."

Then I have to kill the Bifur process.


That's a new one - are you using version 3.10.1?

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07/14/2006 5:31 PM  
I'm new to Bifur, so I have a seemingly simple question: where is it available for download?


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07/14/2006 5:37 PM  
check alepup's website

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07/14/2006 9:34 PM  
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Originally posted by Wayne

When I launch it, it opens (after several warnings about "unsafe references") and hangs. Eventually I get the message "Your Bifur Warband Editor, Advanced database or project contains a missing or broken reference to the file 'COMCTL32.OCX' version 1.3. * To ensure that your database or project works properly, you must fix this reference."




Mine's doing the same - though I can run it after the error message

I'm running MS office 2003


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07/14/2006 10:18 PM  
Looks good as always! thanks again for all the effort!

however, im in the same boat as opus. also the import TSV collection doesn't seem to work. It just sits there and looks at me.

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07/14/2006 10:39 PM  
Awesome! Thanks alepulp, now I can finally use it and not have people call me a loser for using the other one. [)]


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07/15/2006 9:52 AM  
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Awesome! Thanks alepulp, now I can finally use it and not have people call me a loser for using the other one. [)]


I hope the other one you are referring to is not the KB Warband Generator. KB is certainly nothing to turn your nose up at...in fact some of the features of bifur, like importing have/want list and pricing, were available on the KB generator first [:)]

Anyway, this is big news for the ddm community. Finally something that is free for everyone to use. I guess Bmutha will have to continue to develop innovative features to stay ahead of the game (and then maybe bifur will continue to improve [)])

Thanks to the bifur team for being so devoted to the ddm community, bifur certainly makes warband building easier!

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07/15/2006 10:05 AM  
The newest version you put up works fine for me. Thanks!

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07/15/2006 10:15 AM  
Awesome Alepup!!!

Works great on the laptop! Now I acn spend time at work making warbands!!!! [)]

Thank you SO much for all your hard work!

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07/15/2006 11:36 AM  
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr

Awesome! Thanks alepulp, now I can finally use it and not have people call me a loser for using the other one. [)]


I hope the other one you are referring to is not the KB Warband Generator. KB is certainly nothing to turn your nose up at...in fact some of the features of bifur, like importing have/want list and pricing, were available on the KB generator first [:)]

Anyway, this is big news for the ddm community. Finally something that is free for everyone to use. I guess Bmutha will have to continue to develop innovative features to stay ahead of the game (and then maybe bifur will continue to improve [)])

Thanks to the bifur team for being so devoted to the ddm community, bifur certainly makes warband building easier!



He he - you guys also rock. Maybe, just maybe, we should combine efforts? Seems a shame that we duplicate so much between us.

Thanks for all the kind feedback from the community - as usual - you're always welcome. Also note that, although I'm the official face of the tool now, I'm far from alone, with Korvax, Greyhaze, Stone Crusher and Zippy heavily involved! That's why we can release the data so early - a lot of us work on it.

EDIT: Mustn't forget Sammael for his import code and ManoVega for his cool Bifur Image - see my Avatar!

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07/15/2006 11:41 AM  
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Looks good as always! thanks again for all the effort!

however, im in the same boat as opus. also the import TSV collection doesn't seem to work. It just sits there and looks at me.


Also on version 3.10.1? I had an issue with .TSV files from Hordelings (which are subtly different from Maxminis .TSV files - basically each end of line has a Linefeed only from Hordelings and Maxminis has a Carriage Return AND Linefeed - there's also a minor data error from Hordelings on one of the Figure Numbers which is set to R1 rather than a '0'). Testing on 3.10.1 seemed to work fine with both imports though after the code had been changed.

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07/15/2006 9:17 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr

Awesome! Thanks alepulp, now I can finally use it and not have people call me a loser for using the other one. [)]


I hope the other one you are referring to is not the KB Warband Generator. KB is certainly nothing to turn your nose up at...in fact some of the features of bifur, like importing have/want list and pricing, were available on the KB generator first [:)]

Anyway, this is big news for the ddm community. Finally something that is free for everyone to use. I guess Bmutha will have to continue to develop innovative features to stay ahead of the game (and then maybe bifur will continue to improve [)])

Thanks to the bifur team for being so devoted to the ddm community, bifur certainly makes warband building easier!



Haha, No! I know there's more than a couple out there I was just hinting at the "official" one.


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07/16/2006 6:12 PM  
Downloaded it again today from your website.

I tried the smaller Access version (3.10.1) and the standalone version - BOTH yeild the error message during startup, but seem to run fine once you click okay after the error message.

Other than that, I noticed a couple of errors in the new DB additions:

The Huge Purple Worm is 200 HP, not 220 as listed in the Program (this caused me a bit of embarassment at the prerelease tournament)

As well, several of the Organised play repain promos are missing from the list - I have a few that I own, but can't enter in. The missing ones should be easy enough to identify as they're numbered in series.

Other than these minor problems, I'm LOVING the Generator. It's made warband development SOOOOOOOO much easier.

Please post and let us know when the glitches are fixed

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07/16/2006 11:30 PM  
Having a problem importing collection into Bifur 3.10 from 2.10.

I follow the easy to use instructions and it gives me the following errors:
syntax error in FROM clause

error: The microsoft jet database engine cannot find the input table or query 'Miniatures_import'. Make sure it exists and that its name is spelled properly.

Thanks for the help in advance.

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07/17/2006 4:24 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by CTSparky

Having a problem importing collection into Bifur 3.10 from 2.10.

I follow the easy to use instructions and it gives me the following errors:
syntax error in FROM clause

error: The microsoft jet database engine cannot find the input table or query 'Miniatures_import'. Make sure it exists and that its name is spelled properly.

Thanks for the help in advance.


Make sure you have the correct release of Bifur selected on the import screen. A common mistake - but the error message seems strange. Try that first though

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07/17/2006 7:40 AM  
I checked and tried to import from both pre and post 2.8 and it still does not work. I'm at a loss here. Also the purple worm HP has not been changed. I DL'ed 3.10 from your signiture redirect Alepulp.

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07/17/2006 8:20 AM  
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That's a new one - are you using version 3.10.1?
Yes. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and encounter the same behavior.

I'm on Win Xp Pro SP 2, FWIW.

I don't know enough to have any idea if it could be related, but I also ran into problems installing argwinkle's MapExplorer software. It ended up being some issue with how WinXP handles command-line stuff if set in a certain way. He fixed the issue on his end.

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07/17/2006 8:37 AM  
quote:
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quote:
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That's a new one - are you using version 3.10.1?
Yes. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and encounter the same behavior.

I'm on Win Xp Pro SP 2, FWIW.

I don't know enough to have any idea if it could be related, but I also ran into problems installing argwinkle's MapExplorer software. It ended up being some issue with how WinXP handles command-line stuff if set in a certain way. He fixed the issue on his end.


I also am using XP Pro SP2 (Don't know what FWIW is ). I use office 2003. The version I'm using is 3.10.1

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07/17/2006 9:04 AM  
I'm also having no luck with the Import feature. There's no error message ... it simply does nothing until I hit the Exit button.

Oh, and I tried the non-standalone version with Access 2003 (on a different machine, but also XP Pro SP 2) and got exactly the same error messages. The app did load, though, and mostly works.

(This isn't urgent on my account ... I'm pretty happy with BMutha's Excel warbander. Just trying to help you get any bugs out.)

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07/17/2006 12:53 PM  
quote:
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I'm also having no luck with the Import feature. There's no error message ... it simply does nothing until I hit the Exit button.



I too, am having difficulties with import. I was able to import the 2.10 data with little difficulty. However, I can't import maxminis tsv. Nothing happens. I've left it to see if it needs more time, but after 20 minutes I gave up. No error message, no activity, it seems to ignore any attempt to import the tsv file. I've also renamed it to .tsv, .txt, .htm and had no luck with any of them.


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07/18/2006 8:17 AM  
Some testing code was left in by accident. New release shortly on the website.

Purple Worm HPs corrected also

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07/18/2006 9:01 AM  
New Version up. 3.10.2 - as usual, please provide feedback. Thanks

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07/18/2006 11:41 AM  
I don't have a need for the freestanding version myself, but I thank and applaud the working group that broughtthis to fruition. While I have access on my home machine, it is getting dated (Access 2000), and I know that it won't work forever. I'm unlikely to buy my self a new version, so I'm very happy to see this development work move forward!

Thanks all!

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