Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
    
North Carolina
 | | 01/07/2007 11:06 AM |
| I remember the Tarrasque from MM2 AD&D. As A DM I really didn't like it then.
As a plyer I thought it was silly.
As A skirmisher I think that the sculpt would have to be so over the top to even consider buying one.
I am just curious as to why everyone seems to love and want one. It is unique unbalancing and erally imho kind of silly. | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1485 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 01/07/2007 11:13 AM |
| | Just because it could work pretty good in a rpg high level encounter, though it may not be used so often, but anyway, how many times do you really use a CRD? | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 01/07/2007 11:15 AM |
| I tend to agree. If they make one I won't be buying it - but then I haven't bought the two icons they've already released (I may buy the blue dragon and would buy a white if they made it).
The problem for me is how often I would use it. I would never use it in skirmish except perhaps in a casual game and I would probably never use it in D+D. I've been playing D+D for almost 20 years and have run across exactly one Tarrasque as a player. I've never put one in a game that I've run but if I did I would be using it only once. So it's a cost versus benefit thing for me. | |
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yack
Commander
3259 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 01/07/2007 11:19 AM |
| | A CRD at least you can use 2-3 times in your life time of gaming, a Tarrasque once and thats it. Its a unique and $$$ it would at that. I'll pass.......... | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3393 Posts
Netherlands
| | 01/07/2007 11:23 AM |
| Never cared for the concept myself. Granted: there is one out there somewhere. But even if my players would end up in a situation that they would encounter one (odds are very very very low), there is no way they can survive longer thatn 1 round in a combat encounter with the thing. No need for a mini then.
The CRD is more useful IMHO. There can be several at the same time (not just one in the entire universe), so chances for an encounter are more plausible. And dragons are intelligent, so they can be used for non-combat situations as well (where the pea-brained Tarrasque just lives to destroy).
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 01/07/2007 11:24 AM |
| | Also you can have a CRD on your shelf (which it would normally be because you won't use it very often) and your friends will say "Wow, cool dragon." While if you have a Tarrasque on your shelf most of your friends - even many of your gaming friends - will say "What is that?". Point is that the dragons make for better display pieces. | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 01/07/2007 12:28 PM |
| The attractive quality of the Tarrasque in RPG is that is simply a big, tough, but stupid killing machine. It takes a little creativity to bring it in but it should be incredibly easy to play.
As an Iconic I don't know. It may be nice but different looking but would it play so differently than the dragons whos skirmish stats just make them brutes? | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 01/07/2007 1:21 PM |
| The tarrasque isn't that impressive...
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6979/tarasqueel5.jpg
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1485 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 01/07/2007 1:38 PM |
| No intention to offend you PaSquall, but I do prefer this picture   
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dmg2_gallery/90120.jpg
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 01/07/2007 2:28 PM |
| | I think the attraction for me is they have been around for so long, and are really the iconic collossal FR monster out there.. It even used to define the size category Collossa (Tall). To me, while cool, there is more out there than dragons. | |
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tourette's
Skirmisher
24 Posts
Colorado
| | 01/07/2007 6:21 PM |
| | I would buy one. Only because WotC is relying on foolish people like me to purchase everything they make and I don't want to let them down. Only half of my players even know what it is. I can see using it and having the characters banish it away, not kill it, and it could have a re-occurring role until maybe they could kill it in an epic adventure. I doubt they will make this one for a while, if at all. It would be cool if it had other purposes. Maybe a nutcracker. I could put a little santa hat on it and display it during the holidays. Maybe a lamp. Maybe you could store bad dice in it. Just roll the offending die down his throat and into his belly and a day later he could discharge it. | | | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
4274 Posts
West Virginia
| | 01/07/2007 6:26 PM |
| I've used the Tarrasque 3 times in adventures I've ran and I've faced it twice....
well, once I fled in terror. For me, if they made one it would all come down to what it looked like when it came time to decide if I wanted one. If it looks like the pic in the 3e MM that looks all happy like he should be strolling through the forest singing "I got me a baby bumblebee" then no thanks. If it looks angry and devastating, like the pic in the 2e MM or the one in Mjollnir's post, then I'd be much more likely to try and find a way to pick one up. | |
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 01/07/2007 6:48 PM |
| | What Warithborne said. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6723 Posts
| | 01/07/2007 8:07 PM |
| I like godzilla the tarrasque... would I buy one? I guess so. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11526 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 01/07/2007 8:52 PM |
| | I'd probably end up with one somehow, though it certainly wouldn't have the same impact as the CRD for me. | |
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Anaxagoras
Warrior
307 Posts
| | 01/08/2007 12:01 PM |
| | Would buy it in a heartbeat. I dunno, surprisingly as a DnD player I LOVE GIANT MONSTERS! | |
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wicked cool
Underboss
2123 Posts
| | 01/08/2007 12:31 PM |
| | a lot of people might like the tarrasqu because its their chance to fight godzilla. until the gargantuan and colosal figs had been made i had never thought of throwing thses type of monstrs against a party. i would like to see moe huges made and a huge separate pack would be a big seller in my eyes | |
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Vocenoctum1
Sneak
51 Posts
| | 01/08/2007 1:17 PM |
| I've never cared for the Tarrasque myself. I certainly wouldn't buy one. The red is a nice looking figure and the tarraque is ugly.
There are plenty of horror style figures that'd be better IMO, Kyuss for one. | |
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yack
Commander
3259 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 01/08/2007 2:11 PM |
| Posted By wicked cool on 01/08/2007 12:31 PM
a lot of people might like the tarrasqu because its their chance to fight godzilla. until the gargantuan and colosal figs had been made i had never thought of throwing thses type of monstrs against a party. i would like to see moe huges made and a huge separate pack would be a big seller in my eyes
I agree they should do huges as non random singles and release say one every 3 months with a set release. | |
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delguidance
Sergeant
394 Posts
| | 01/08/2007 7:16 PM |
| Why not a love affair with the Tarrasque? It destroys stuff but know one knows where its at. There's an air of mystery there. There's only one of it. In a fantasy world where mythological and rare things like magic are sort of mundane, this is a mythical and rare thing.
Its not broken, it doesn't ruin DnD. A competent DM could use it. A good DM could use it multiple times.
I'd buy one in a second and have a blast explaining what it is to all watchers. I'd make it a hood ornament on my car. I'd hollow it out and store minis in it. | |
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Zyla
Underboss
1191 Posts
| | 01/08/2007 8:26 PM |
| | The Tarrasque is mostly for high level Epic adventures, however i would prefer a Collosal Prismatic Dragon as an Icon, now there is a true Epic dragon for a party fo face. | |
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Skyscraper
Sergeant
659 Posts
Montreal
| | 01/09/2007 2:09 PM |
| The question may be asked about so many iconic D&D monsters. Myself, i like to see nicely drawn pictures of D&D creatures, i like to buy and own cool minis of D&D monsters, all that gets my imagination going. The tarasque is one of the greatest of all times! Back in the days of 1st E, it used to define what a strong monster was. Heck, you needed to cast "wish" to kill it once you got it to -30! I'v never faced it as a player, and i've never included it in a game as a DM, but legends about the tarasque abound in my world.
Unless the mini is really crappy, i'll buy one if they make it.
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6805 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 01/09/2007 6:00 PM |
| | I don't have any interest in a tarrasque, after thinking about it. If I ever use one as a DM, which I doubt, I still wouldn't want a mini for it. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 01/09/2007 6:04 PM |
| | I think it is inevitable it will end up in a Paizo adventure path at some point. | |
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 01/09/2007 7:20 PM |
| | Good call! | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3518 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 01/09/2007 9:21 PM |
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Dude, that's awesome. Â  | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 01/10/2007 4:38 AM |
| Posted By IanB on 01/09/2007 6:04 PM
I think it is inevitable it will end up in a Paizo adventure path at some point.
Oh very true I totally can see that happening.
Put me in the "I think its a cool monster and want to see one" camp. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 01/10/2007 4:59 PM |
| I used one for a session with mid level players, they had to cope with the stampede of animals and critters etc.
Was quite scary for them. Not knowing at first what they were up against, seeing first animals/birds running, then more mythical creatures and humaniods also running from cover, then seeing a huge beast in the distance catching up all too quick as they joined the running legions in trying to guess which way was safe to run to.
The only other time I have used one was linked to a bone spear the pcs had found. It had the standard ancient runes on it, later translated to read something like, 'for emergency, break spear'.
They carried it for ages in the campaign, not knowing that if they broke it, it would act like a homing beacon for the Tarrasque.
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As an icon, it would be one I would probably skip purchasing. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 01/10/2007 5:51 PM |
| I was in one game where we skirted around the Tarrasque and he never showed up (although a bunch of dwarves were potentially digging in the area where he was sleeping). Since we were all 1st level, that was fine with me.
Part of this Icon series to me has to qualify for the name, in other words, they have the be iconic. Now dragons are that, but just being a dragon doesn't qualify for the spot. When I told friends of mine that colossal minis were being made, the first question was always, "Is it the Tarrasque?" and were disappointed to hear it wasn't and one of these people even asked me when DDM first came out if they would make a Tarrasque. Some of these people aren't hard core gamers, either. It says something when even casual enthusiasts know the creature.
Now, I can see people saying they have no use for it and wouldn't buy it. That's a pretty big hunk of change to make a purchase that you are going to regret and no one says you have to buy everything or you are not a fan. But it's not a silly piece to make a mini out of. | |
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MuscledDestroyer
Sergeant
435 Posts
Prospect Park, Pa
| | 01/11/2007 12:52 AM |
| | Tarrasque = Awesome. Dragons get on my nerves and how many times would you fight a CRD! | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2711 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 01/11/2007 5:42 AM |
| Posted By MuscledDestroyer on 01/11/2007 12:52 AM
how many times would you fight a CRD!
More often than a Tarrasque.Â
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moonglum
Skirmisher
47 Posts
| | 01/11/2007 7:31 AM |
| The tarrasque looks an aweful lot like Gamera. If a person found the appropriatly sized gamera toy, they could use it as a tarrasque for that one game in a life time where the one was actually encountered.
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Ghendar
Warlord
12355 Posts
The G Spot
| | 01/11/2007 7:39 AM |
| Posted By Mortusbard on 01/07/2007 11:06 AM
I remember the Tarrasque from MM2 AD&D. As A DM I really didn't like it then.
As a plyer I thought it was silly.
As A skirmisher I think that the sculpt would have to be so over the top to even consider buying one.
I am just curious as to why everyone seems to love and want one. It is unique unbalancing and erally imho kind of silly.
I certainly don't need one. None of us really do.
The thing that irks me most is how the Tarrasque in 1st ED was THE most feared creature you could think of and then in 3rd ED it was pretty much just another 20th level type creature and a quick read through the Epic Level Handbook will show you several creatures even more powerful. Thanks guys. Thanks for totally nerfing the Tarrasque.
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Dordledum
Commander
3393 Posts
Netherlands
| | 01/11/2007 7:44 AM |
| Posted By moonglum on 01/11/2007 7:31 AM
The tarrasque looks an aweful lot like Gamera. If a person found the appropriatly sized gamera toy, they could use it as a tarrasque for that one game in a life time where the one was actually encountered.
What's a Gamera?
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