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Hejas
Sergeant
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Poland
 | | 03/16/2007 9:35 AM |
| I like Unhallowed. It's not as great as Blood War, it's worse than War of the Dragon Queen, but it's still not bad.
One thing I cannot understand though, is: how did the "flying carpet wizard" pass the quality selection? (or how's that called) It's by far the ugliest miniature I've seen in my entire life and it's a damn rare! It looks like a toy from "Kinder Surprise" and a pretty bad one. And the clear plastic base makes it even worse - it doesn't even mach rest of the minis. Champion of Yondalla is a freakin top rare compared to this piece of... I dunno. 
Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt? | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2711 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 03/16/2007 9:48 AM |
| Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM I like Unhallowed. It's not as great as Blood War, it's worse than War of the Dragon Queen, but it's still not bad. One thing I cannot understand though, is: how did the "flying carpet wizard" pass the quality selection? (or how's that called) It's by far the ugliest miniature I've seen in my entire life and it's a damn rare! It looks like a toy from "Kinder Surprise" and a pretty bad one. And the clear plastic base makes it even worse - it doesn't even mach rest of the minis. Champion of Yondalla is a freakin top rare compared to this piece of... I dunno. Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt?
Because we have some very, very nicely sculpted and painted C/U's, there's a trade off there. If every rare were say a, Horned Devil, then we wouldn't get minis as cool as the Celestial Giant Owl, Bat Familiar, Stormrage Shambler, Bugbear Gang Leader, etc. Â
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Personally I like at least half the rares in a set to be 'crappy'. It's usually a sign of a good set. I find the strength of a set lies in the C/U slot, particularly the large uncommons.    | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/16/2007 9:49 AM |
| Agree wholly with nyastul on this, great commons and uncommons can make a set. Aberrations had great commons for instance,
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 03/16/2007 11:46 AM |
| Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt?
Ectoplasm being only one color? When I think of them, multi-colored is not one of the properties. Much in the same way when someone says psionics I think "purple" and no other color.
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 03/16/2007 11:47 AM |
| Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt?
Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ?
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
948 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 03/16/2007 12:04 PM |
| | I hope only get one, and repainted in silver color!!! | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6802 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 03/16/2007 12:44 PM |
| | I like the clear base on the Wizard of Turmish. It makes me wish all the flying minis had clear bases. While I may not have been looking for a miniature on a flying carpet, this one is pretty good looking for what it is. It can be subbed for a PC mini when fly is cast on it. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 03/16/2007 2:25 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt? I can. Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ?
Hell yes, if that meant something worthy of being a rare occupied it's current slot. Besides, a quick coat of paint and they'd make excellent statues/golems.
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/16/2007 2:28 PM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 03/16/2007 2:25 PM Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt? I can. Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ? Hell yes, if that meant something worthy of being a rare occupied it's current slot. Besides, a quick coat of paint and they'd make excellent statues/golems. 
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zenthrus
Warlord
5081 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 03/16/2007 2:31 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM
Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ?
Yup. Astral Constructs are summonable. Pity they weren't uncommon since I'm not inclined to rare-chase them. If they were uncommon I'd want a few more.
Also, haven't seen one in hand, but judging by the pics I would not categorize that as a 'simple' sculpt. Asymmetrical sculpts with a variety of protrusions is likely rather unpleasant to create workable molds for.
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AnarionZelle
Underboss
1161 Posts
USA
| | 03/16/2007 4:28 PM |
| | Is the Wizard of Turmish really that bad? I was thinking of picking one up to use in our game - an annoying (perhaps insane) wizard that pops up every now and then to harrass PCs, only to fly away when they retaliate | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3912 Posts
USA
| | 03/16/2007 6:06 PM |
| I don't have a Wizard of Turnips yet.Â
I just got a LArge Astral Construct. And he's pretty one colored ugly, but I like him.Â
I like this set, some good paint jobs / sculpts, some meh paint jobs / sculpts, and a couple of poor ones.Â
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 03/16/2007 7:15 PM |
| I don't think that the Wizard of Turmish is that bad. I like the sculpt and the clear plastic base but the paint job could have been better.
I consider the Large Astral Construct to be a meh rare though. I'm glad to have one but wouldn't want more than that really. | |
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zoroaster100
Sergeant
873 Posts
| | 03/16/2007 10:43 PM |
| | The wizard of Turmish looks pretty bad, I'm afraid. At least the one I got has a worse paintjob for his face than any other miniature I've got. There is a large silver grey blob instead of eyes. I think it's supposed to be spectacles but it just looks like a single round glob. What I assume is supposed to be a beard is off to the side of his face, off center. He basically has no face. On the other hand, there were some great pieces in this set, like the bat familiar which looks awesome, and the shambling mound looks great too. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/17/2007 2:40 AM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt? I can. Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ?
with those skirmish stats? yes please!
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 03/17/2007 5:52 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 03/16/2007 2:31 PM Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM
Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ?
Yup. Astral Constructs are summonable. Pity they weren't uncommon since I'm not inclined to rare-chase them. If they were uncommon I'd want a few more.
OK for the summonable part, didn't think of this.
However it looks it's not gonna be a chase rare, in fact it's actually the cheapest rare in my online FGS right now. You can easily buy a few of them for quite cheap (for a rare) if you're in need of them. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 03/17/2007 5:54 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 03/17/2007 2:40 AM Posted By PaSquall on 03/16/2007 11:47 AM Posted By Hejas on 03/16/2007 9:35 AM Oh, and can someone tell me why the Large Astral Construct is a one-color rare with a simple sculpt? I can. Would you really want it to be uncommon and get 4 of them in your cases ? with those skirmish stats? yes please! D.
Multi LAC bands ? Is this the new trend ?
(I don't know much in skirmish, I must say... )
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 03/17/2007 5:56 AM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 03/16/2007 12:44 PM
I like the clear base on the Wizard of Turmish. It makes me wish all the flying minis had clear bases. While I may not have been looking for a miniature on a flying carpet, this one is pretty good looking for what it is. It can be subbed for a PC mini when fly is cast on it.
Ditto, I'd love clear bases and rods (?) for all flying minis.
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
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dmmandil
Sneak
142 Posts
| | 03/17/2007 7:09 AM |
| I don't mind the Wizard of Turnips or it's clear base. I show it to friends and say......"and the only mini ever made with a clear base....." I'm a geek like that.
I DO have a problem with the base of the bat familiar (I know, does not qualify as an "ugly rare" since it is uncommon). Why did they even bother to put text on there? It's not as if you can read it even with a microscope.
As for ugly rares, is it just me, or does Van Richten look like someone beat Christopher Lloyd with an ugly stick? | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/17/2007 8:42 AM |
| Posted By dmmandil on 03/17/2007 7:09 AM
I don't mind the Wizard of Turnips or it's clear base. I show it to friends and say......"and the only mini ever made with a clear base....." I'm a geek like that.
three words:
small fire elemental
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 03/17/2007 9:51 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 03/17/2007 8:42 AM Posted By dmmandil on 03/17/2007 7:09 AM
I don't mind the Wizard of Turnips or it's clear base. I show it to friends and say......"and the only mini ever made with a clear base....." I'm a geek like that.
three words: small fire elemental D.
and the Large Water Elemental has a blue base (not clear though) | |
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dmmandil
Sneak
142 Posts
| | 03/18/2007 8:56 AM |
| | The small fire elementals base is black from the side, as in painted. So that is why I do not count it. How about this instead, the only mini with a clear, non-colored base. Sheesh! | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 03/18/2007 10:08 PM |
| Posted By dmmandil on 03/18/2007 8:56 AM
The small fire elementals base is black from the side, as in painted. So that is why I do not count it. How about this instead, the only mini with a clear, non-colored base. Sheesh!
I wouldn't have counted the Small Fire Elemental as having a clear base either.
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zenthrus
Warlord
5081 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 03/19/2007 1:38 PM |
| My Auggie's order just arrived so I have a better idea of what most (there are still three rares I refuse to bother getting) of the rares look like.
Winner for ugliestt rare ever (yes, it beats out the Medusa) goes to the Wizard of Turnips.
I'm less repulsed by the clear base, more repulsed by the Chong/Garcia-esque nose-tip glasses (with slightly offset paint to boot) and complete lack of any other facial features.
The Large Astral Construct, while monochromatic, is still a striking mini (far better looking in-hand than in pics). It really stands out against the rather dark rest of the set. Also, the Pentifex Monolith looks MUCH better in-hand than in any of the pics I've seen. I assumed that would be ripe for the fugly-awards. Glad I was mistaken. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/19/2007 1:50 PM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 03/19/2007 1:38 PM
The Large Astral Construct, while monochromatic, is still a striking mini (far better looking in-hand than in pics). It really stands out against the rather dark rest of the set. Also, the Pentifex Monolith looks MUCH better in-hand than in any of the pics I've seen. I assumed that would be ripe for the fugly-awards. Glad I was mistaken.
Totally agree on both accounts. I was quite vocal against the construct until I saw one on the prerelease, I quite like it!
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10980 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 03/19/2007 5:17 PM |
| | The Monolith does indeed look much better in person than I thought. Pity about the issues with the Wizard, mine came out smashing. His specs look pretty good and he even has a pair of eyes peeping over them. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 03/19/2007 8:51 PM |
| I really wish the Large Astral Construct was Uncommon. They are summonable creatures so i want more than one. Â | |
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Almalik
Warrior
266 Posts
Vancouver-ish, Canada
| | 03/20/2007 3:51 PM |
| | Normally, I get pretty annoyed with the 'less desirable' rares like the Wizard and the Monolith (and Lyrandar and every other human rare) especially since I invariably get my personal 5 or 6 least desirable figs in whichever case I pick out of the stack at the FLGS. With Unhallowed I am feeling pretty good about it. If the D-Wolf or Stormrage Shambler had been rares, they would have been in my top 5 most wanted rares (and the Caller would have been up there as well). I never could break down and eBay a Shambling Mound from Harbinger because they were just so fugly, and I only have one dire wolf from GoL. Having them as uncommons really balances out getting the blah humanoid rares in this set. | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 03/20/2007 5:00 PM |
| Well for me I like the rare setup overall, while there are some pieces I'd prefer seeing in the U/C slots like Large Astral Construct, Ice Elemental and Shield Guardian (and especially the Displacer Beast) most of the other rares are precisely minis I'd only want 1 maybe 2 of each. (And I've long ago accepted the fact Dragons will be rares no matter how much I'd like to see them in U/C.)
Personally I hate seeing pieces like Lidda or other named humanoids as U/C's, unless they're really beautifully sculpted (which U/C's never truly are).
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Nyarlathotep333
Warrior
283 Posts
Alaska
| | 03/21/2007 12:06 PM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 03/17/2007 5:56 AM Posted By Corim Danex on 03/16/2007 12:44 PM
I like the clear base on the Wizard of Turmish. It makes me wish all the flying minis had clear bases. While I may not have been looking for a miniature on a flying carpet, this one is pretty good looking for what it is. It can be subbed for a PC mini when fly is cast on it. Ditto, I'd love clear bases and rods (?) for all flying minis.
Sure would have made the Celestial Owl look a bit better, not that it is a bad sculpt or paint, but the fact that it has an big black pillar supporting it is kind of ugly. Ultimately I can't figure out why they didn't attach it at the tail feathers, but having a clear support would have been better than having a black one IMHO.
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Dordledum
Commander
3388 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/21/2007 2:17 PM |
| I hate the clear base, uniformity all the way!
Clear stalks are cool though,
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