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03/21/2007 8:48 PM  
Ok, this is going to come off as me ranting & whining, but it's all in good fun.....or is it

I just got my cases of Unhallowed and saw the new minis for the first time today. I need to let the world know....I hate the new Displacer Beast!

I hate every single thing about it from a collector/RPGer point of view.

I hate the pose.

I hate the size.

I hate the sculpt.

I hate the paintjob.

I hate the way it looks exactly like a Panther with 6 legs & tentacles.

I hate the way the mouth hangs open like it does.

I hate the paw that reaches out as if he's attempting to shake my hand and say, "Hello good sir, my name is Tralfaz & I'll be your combat encounter for the evening."

I hate how it looks nothing like the Harbinger DB or the pictures from the Monster Manual & Dragon/Dungeon mags.

I hate the fact it's a rare.

I hate the fact that I pulled more of them from my cases than I did most other rares.

I hate how it looks more 'cute' than 'scary'.

I hate how it looks sitting next to the Harbinger DB.

I hate knowing that if I used it in a game along with the Harbinger DB, my players will laugh at the Unhallowed DB.

I hate the fact that it's probably going to decrease the value of the Harbinger DB when I spent so much money/minis buying & trading for my HB versions.

I hate how this piece of turd resculpt wasted a slot in Unhallowed so gamers can easily make a pack for the DB Pack Lord. Don't get me wrong; I was excited to hear about a resculpt so people can make a pack...but I didn't realize it would be a resculpt of Guenhwyvar.

I hate that manpower was wasted designing this mini when those employees could have left work early instead.

I hate not knowing if I should hate its worthiness for skirmish play.

I hate how this DB sucks so bad that it made me consider writing a thread about how much I hate it.

That's it for now. When I saw this thing for the first time, I actually had to go pull out my Harbinger DB just to feel better. I really like everything about the HB version, not so much this one!


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03/21/2007 9:48 PM  
if you hate them so much, you can send one to me.  Im not joking.

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03/21/2007 9:58 PM  
I don't have the same feelings about it, maybe because I don't own a HB displacer beast, but in comparison it looks like its spent some time in the gym & then supplemented with steroids & displacer beast growth hormone.
Yes he definitely looks juiced up compared to the HB one.
I still think its interesting that the DBMH is rare, original is rare & the pack lord is uncommon? oh well.

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03/21/2007 9:59 PM  
I hate how its a rare, and that I can never swap one for a harbinger one.
(Oh and skirmishwise it's quiote medicore)

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03/21/2007 10:04 PM  
I don't get it? Why don't you like this piece?

Just curious, did you hear about this piece before the set came out and if so, what were you hoping for?

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03/21/2007 10:33 PM  
Posted By vanrulzz on 03/21/2007 9:48 PM
if you hate them so much, you can send one to me.  Im not joking.

I could use one as well.

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03/21/2007 11:15 PM  
Posted By realmaster on 03/21/2007 10:33 PM
Posted By vanrulzz on 03/21/2007 9:48 PM
if you hate them so much, you can send one to me.  Im not joking.

I could use one as well.


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03/21/2007 11:27 PM  
Posted By Oryan77 on 03/21/2007 8:48 PM

I hate every single thing about it from a collector/RPGer point of view.
Don't sugarcoat it Oryan. Tell us how you really feel.


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03/22/2007 12:01 AM  
Posted By Oryan77 on 03/21/2007 8:48 PM

I hate how this piece of turd resculpt wasted a slot in Unhallowed so gamers can easily make a pack for the DB Pack Lord. Don't get me wrong; I was excited to hear about a resculpt so people can make a pack...but I didn't realize it would be a resculpt of Guenhwyvar.

I hate the fact that they make this piece so you can run a pack of them with the DB Pack Lord, then make it a rare, so that it'll cost you through the nose, to get enough for a pack! One of Unhallowed pieces that really should have been a U/C.

It being big 'n beefy is easier to accept then this issue.

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03/22/2007 12:23 AM  
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Yes and No.

I hate any mini that is good in the rpg and sucks in skirmish. Reason: I hate the rpg. It puts the ugly stereotpyical name on "d&d."


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03/22/2007 2:15 AM  
It is not wrong to hate a mini. I, too, dislike the new DBMH.

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03/22/2007 2:24 AM  
yes, yes, it is wrong to hate a mini. Yes. This is a phobia, known as displaceritusdiptherius and is curable only by releasing the mini from your ownership and sending it to a home for unloved displacers, supported by the Royal Society for Unloved Minis (the official RSUM, not a registered charity). The Valrunzz is your local officer. Do it now before the illness takes over your mind and causes an overload - these have been known to cause your body to be 7 inches away from your photoholistic image. A terrible terrible disease, especially bad when rolling a d20 straight onto the floor by misjudging it's trajectory. No... you must deal with it.

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03/22/2007 3:10 AM  
Posted By alepulp on 03/22/2007 2:24 AM
yes, yes, it is wrong to hate a mini. Yes. This is a phobia, known as displaceritusdiptherius and is curable only by releasing the mini from your ownership and sending it to a home for unloved displacers, supported by the Royal Society for Unloved Minis (the official RSUM, not a registered charity). The Valrunzz is your local officer. Do it now before the illness takes over your mind and causes an overload - these have been known to cause your body to be 7 inches away from your photoholistic image. A terrible terrible disease, especially bad when rolling a d20 straight onto the floor by misjudging it's trajectory. No... you must deal with it.
Exactly.  Definately seek professionsal help on this one.Â

On a side note, I can act as a proxy for relocating the Displacer Manhunter to a new home.  I am fully trained as a DDM foster care taker.  So feel free to send him my.  Your hated Displacer Beat will most definately find a new home.Â

All this from someone who does not own a single one of the originals and who now only can get 1 of the new ones.Â





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03/22/2007 3:27 AM  
Ahhh...this is not a cut but isn't the displacer beast suppose to be just a panther with more legs and tentacles? I hate how its a very large large!!!! It not even close to the one from Harb (which by the way from all the art over the years and even from Dungeon/Dragon mag is to that size!) Not a massive panther... could use more though please send my way they are used alot in the Realms.

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03/22/2007 3:31 AM  

I may not hate them as much as you but I certainly hope to never pull another.

I am Very disappointed in not only the sculpt but the decision to make it a rare. After seeing the sculpt though it would appear that the decision to make it a rare was a good one for me because it means I wont have a dozen of these pieces of C#@P.


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03/22/2007 4:13 AM  
I find the beast quite nice. What I don't like about it is the fct that it looks a little like my pet hasmter. Too friendly.

And I hate it's a rare. How can you assemble a pack, then?

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03/22/2007 5:19 AM  
I just think it's too big
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03/22/2007 5:24 AM  
Hate a mini? What utter (Wrackspawn) nonsense. How could anyone hate any (Wrackspawn) mini? I mean, c'mon now, there's certainly nothing wrong with this (Wrackspawn) mini.

I think you need to get a (Wrackspawn) grip.



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03/22/2007 5:47 AM  
Yeh, it's okay to hate a mini. I agree with most of what you've said. I think it's a good sculpt on it's own, but they set two precidents that they should've stuck with.

1) It's not a panther with 6 legs, it's an aberration like slender creature, look at the DBPL, they don't match at all.
2) Scale, the scale is enourmous, I guess this DBMH is inbetween the DBPL and the DB while it's growing up.

I don't mind the sculpt, other than the precidents set out before hand. Making it Rare was just silly.


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03/22/2007 5:52 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 03/22/2007 5:24 AM
Hate a mini? What utter (Wrackspawn) nonsense. How could anyone hate any (Wrackspawn) mini? I mean, c'mon now, there's certainly nothing wrong with this (Wrackspawn) mini.

I think you need to get a (Wrackspawn) grip.




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03/22/2007 5:58 AM  
I'm not a big fan either....I don't have one and, even though it's currently on my want list, I'm still not sure I want one. One would just make me want more to run encounters with, even if it's a hideous mockery of a DB, and I'm beginning to think proxying would be just fine, as opposed to $80 to get a pack of minis that shoulda been Uncommon in the first place.

It all goes back to the whole "They'll take it as a rare, because they'll be so grateful to get it in the first place" theory, which will be proved once again when they finally re-release an Umber Hulk.

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Posted By Wraithborne on 03/22/2007 5:52 AM

Don't hate the Wrackspawn Ghendar....Hate the boot...
Me too.  The boot was just silly.


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03/22/2007 7:17 AM  
Posted By WakeXX on 03/22/2007 5:19 AM
I just think it's too big

Personally I think the Harbinger one was just too small.

I love this one (have only 1 yet) and still want about 3 or 4 more.

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03/22/2007 7:21 AM  
See to me the new DB is much more like what a DB should look like.  Not that emaciated piece of crap from Harbinger.  That said I have always hated the DB as a monster so couldn't care less if it was remade.  And what is all this about "wasting" rare slots?  The uncommon slots have always been, for me, where the sweet minis are (oh Stormrage Shambler how I love thee).  Rares are just minis I don't have to bother collecting because so many of them suck or are just PC/NPC types.

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03/22/2007 7:50 AM  

So, I take it you're willing to trade them away, then?

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03/22/2007 7:56 AM  
Posted By yack on 03/22/2007 3:27 AM
Ahhh...this is not a cut but isn't the displacer beast suppose to be just a panther with more legs and tentacles?

Yes and no. Originally it was just that - a six-legged panther with tentacles - but 3e took a less literal tack. They made the appearance of the D-Beast - and "mash-up" creatures like the manticore - unique but in a manner that somone in the world who encountered it for the first time would likely describe it as "a panther with 6 legs and tentacles" - or in the case of a manticore "a lion's body with the head of a man and wings of a grat bird" - in much the same manner that real-world explorers described girraffes as "the offspring of camels and leopard" or elephants as having "a snake growing from the head."

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03/22/2007 7:59 AM  
I'm very dissapointed with this mini, but i don't hate it. Do you have a current trade thread? I couldn't find one.


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03/22/2007 8:11 AM  
Posted By derka_derka on 03/22/2007 12:23 AM
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I hate any mini that is good in the rpg and sucks in skirmish. Reason: I hate the rpg. It puts the ugly stereotpyical name on "d&d."
Either that's satirical or silly.  If it weren't for RPG sales, DDM would be dead in the water, or a lot closer to it.


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03/22/2007 8:38 AM  
i dont own one yet but i have 1 in the mail coming my way and i did see it at the pre-release. i love everything about it including that its a rare. I like the size creep of D&D mins. the old one looked like a mangy cat that just came out of a trash can. it was too small as were many mins from that first set especially the goblins,hobbits and gnomes. i dont have a problem with the paw raised as many of the dragons made so far have similiar poses and they are more of a staple in D&D and the outrages has not been as severe. the cover art shows the displacer beast attacking the half orc monk and it looks bigger than the habinger one. its a panther with legs and tentacles. Looks nothing likef Guenhwyvar. I have no probelm with man power on this min as the owlbear might have been done by the same people and i love that 1 as well. the old displacer beast is obsolete in todays skirmish so that doenst bother me either. If it decreases the value of the old one than sell the new one and buy more old ones while they are cheap . Make your players happy.


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03/22/2007 9:28 AM  
I hate that the new DB looks so chubby compared to the Pack Lord that was just released. (You'd think the Pack Lord would eat before the rest of them, no?).

I hate that I'll have to trade or eBay a couple, because the much better looking harbinger one is so expensive.

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03/22/2007 9:54 AM  
I'm happy with the look and sculpt.... the size is just the bad part.
Anybody got a shrink ray?

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03/22/2007 9:56 AM  
I actually dislike the DBPL's emaciated look more than this. In fact, I think this is exactly what a displacer beast should look like. They are hunters; they should look like they can catch something. They only thing I don't like is that they changed the look in 3E that made it more emaciated and that the first two DBs look like that, rather than the new one. The Pack Lord looks like it hasn't eaten in a month. The new one, while not the scariest pose, at least looks like it has the muscles to tear something apart. Size-wise, I think it fits the model of a large creature. The large figures have gotten a little bigger, but I think they are more to scale with what large figures should be.

The ones that bother me more (as if I ever really get bothered) are something like Strahd, as a medium-based figure, taking up a large amount of space. For the most part, scale has gotten better in my opinion.

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03/22/2007 10:06 AM  

    What irritates me is that we now have three (count 'em, three!) Displacer Beasts in various stages of emaciation, and zero Blink Dogs.Â

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03/22/2007 10:13 AM  
Posted By dagonet on 03/22/2007 10:06 AM

    What irritates me is that we now have three (count 'em, three!) Displacer Beasts in various stages of emaciation, and zero Blink Dogs.Â

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03/22/2007 10:17 AM  
Ok guys, I have mailed out all of my DBM's to you today via USPS. I did not pay for tracking numbers or insurance, so if you never receive it, someone at the post office must have stolen them

My "trade" list is at the end of my "for sale" list (link is in my sig). I'm only looking for D&D books at the moment because I pretty much have all the minis I need. But I'll be adding Unhallowed minis to my for sale list hopefully tonight. If anyone wants to purchase these DBM's, they'll be in my list.


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03/22/2007 10:32 AM  
Posted By Oryan77 on 03/21/2007 8:48 PM
Ok, this is going to come off as me ranting & whining, but it's all in good fun.....or is it

I just got my cases of Unhallowed and saw the new minis for the first time today. I need to let the world know....I hate the new Displacer Beast!




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03/22/2007 10:53 AM  
Posted By vanrulzz on 03/21/2007 9:48 PM
if you hate them so much, you can send one to me.  Im not joking.

I am ready to trade it/them for other ones like Count Strahd Von Zarovich, Vampire, Large Astral Construct, Thrall of Blackrazor, Lyrandar Skyfire Captain, Wizard of Turmish, Pentifex Monolith, Large Brass Dragon and even Bone Naga. Send an e-mail if interested.

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Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant
Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar
Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus
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Philly

03/22/2007 12:47 PM  
Here's a rather smaller displacer beast. Maybe it has the dungeonbred template



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03/22/2007 12:52 PM  
This is why I didn't bother picking up a DBMH (I buy singles so I get just what I want). Probably won't ever pick up a DBMH.

Of course, it helps that I have an army of Chainmail Displacer Beasts

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03/22/2007 1:27 PM  
I Never fought D-Beasts in D&D.  Given that the Uh D-Beast is a rare it's equally likely I'm not going to ever use a D-Beast against PC's.  The only the thing that I Hate about the Uh D-beast and the D-beasts we have seen, is that the Pack leader us Uncommon and the other two are Rare.

Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror.
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