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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
    
 | | 03/15/2005 6:18 PM |
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Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/15/2005 6:18 PM |
| Sorry, I guess this should have gone elsewhere....
Mike | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
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bugsy
Sergeant
557 Posts
United Kingdom
| | 03/15/2005 10:38 PM |
| | Sir, just because you have a problem with a trader here in the Philippines that you are allowed to blame the whole country for it. Other traders had problems with some people from other countries but they never dragged the reputation of that country in the controversy. I think you should be responsible enough to know that there are other traders which might be affected by your statement. Also, you misspelled Philippines. | |
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Kumag
Sergeant
450 Posts
The Philippines
| | 03/15/2005 11:26 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by milawjax
Nixlord and I have had problems....Now I see why People wont trade with the phillipines.
Mike
Mr. Mike Jackson, (if that's even your real name)
Unless you can prove that all of us here in the Philippines are bad traders as your post implies, I suggest you issue a public apology for your insulting remarks.
Else, please save our moderators the effort and ban yourself from this site.
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/16/2005 5:46 AM |
| I hereby Publicly apologize to all those whom I offended. My anger got the best of me. I humbly beg your forgiveness.
Now that I've apologized.....I was stung twice from the Phillipines. It has soured me to over seas trades.
I will no longer trade over seas.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Mike | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
My H/W list
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Nixlord
Underboss
2468 Posts
Quezon City, Philippines
| | 03/16/2005 10:15 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by milawjax
Nixlord and I have had problems....I sent my the mini's for a trade, then He said he didn't recieve....I sent a money order to cover it in an effort to square the deal....Over a month later he sais he still hasn't recieved the money and an email stating he is going to post me as a problem trader...Now I see why People wont trade with the phillipines.
Wow, that's a very bold and cocky statement. I've been very patient with you these past few months. You make it appear as if I really scammed you. And oh, for what, a Drider and a Valenar? You seriously think I'd risk my reputation for those two minis? If I'm ever going to scam someone, I might as well score big, right?. And I might as well scam someone who's sending first, not after I've already sent. Yes, folks, Milawjax has received. And now he says I scammed him of the Drider and Valenar, plus his money payment. And to top it all, he makes the statement "Now I see why People wont trade with the phillipines [sic]." If you think you're gonna squirm out of this and paint me as the problem trader, you're in for a big surprise.
Ok, allow me to review our trade:
We agreed to our deal October 26, 2004. This was 5 months ago. Here's the first series of emails that closed the deal:
quote:
From: mike jackson
To: 'Nixlord'
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:34 AM
Subject: RE: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Hey,
Sorry, I can’t accommodate the orc request, but otherwise the below trade was good.
My address is:
Mike Jackson
5 Hickory Ln
Elkton, MD 21921
Stacey Jackson
(410)398-3880
http://www.momswin.com/poodimbear/
-----Original Message-----
From: Nixlord [mailto:nix_hobbystop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:23 AM
To: mike jackson
Subject: RE: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Sounds great. Not trying to squeeze more out a deal does not make a good trader. : )
Although it would be perfect if you changed the 2 abyssal maws and 2 warforged fighters and just give me 1-2 orc warriors along with the drider/valenar. -> (My turn to squeeze.)
But your offer is already acceptable.
My Addy:
Mannix Manansala
1 Alzen St., North Fairview Subdivision
Quezon City, Metro Manila 1121
Philippines
What's yours?
Ok, it normally only takes 2 weeks before I receive when we send simultaneously. But for some, it takes only a week. Those who send via Global Priority are the ones that make this possible. This is why I always ask people I trade with to send via Global Priority. There have been a few that took more than 2 weeks, but never more than a month.
I also kept tabs on hiw H/W list. I regularly checked it, to see if he will ever update the status of his Drider and Valenar Commander, which both showed H:1, For Trade:1. This was the same status before the trade. And as of this posting (more than 4 months), he still has not changed them. I know its merely circumstantial, but still got me worried.
Now what do normal traders do when they send overseas simultaneously? They communicate after a week or two to check on each other's packages, right? When someone has received, you email the other guy and make the report. I waited patiently for nearly a month, and yet I received no such email. So I finally emailed him to inquire about my package. This was his answer:
quote:
From: "mike jackson" Add to Address Book
To: "'Nixlord'"
Subject: RE: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:11:31 -0500
Hey Nix,
Sorry about the late reply, my PC was down for a while. I did receive yours 2 days ago. I sent yours out a couple days after your were sent, so I would keep a look out for them any day now.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Nixlord [mailto:nix_hobbystop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:41 PM
To: mike jackson
Subject: Re: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Mike,
Hi.
I'm just double checking if you sent my package. It's been almost a month now and I still haven't received.
You probably received mine already.
Please reply asap.
Thanks.
Nixlord
Ok, now I get a little nervous. He made the very convenient 'my pc was down' excuse. How many times have we heard this response from a dubious trader? He also says he just received my package 2 days ago. Now wait a moment, he just confirmed that my package took 3 and a half weeks to get to him! For the record, that is the longest it took for any of my international trades to get to their destination. As my references will tell you, it normally takes only 2 weeks, sometimes less, for someone to receive. But fine, let's just say it really took that long.
But his reply of "I sent yours out a couple days after your were sent, so I would keep a look out for them any day now" made me nervous. That's almost a tell tale sign that he didn't send simultaneously, and probably waited for mine to arrive. But I waited nonetheless. 2 weeks went by and I made an inquiry again. He responded quickly, and after a couple of slightly heated emails, he promised to make amends. Here's the email responses:
quote:
Nix,
Cool. I never thought you were scamming me. I am sorry if I said anything that made you believe that I thought that. Tabba and Iksander aside, I appreciate how sometimes comments from the board can get people’s feathers ruffled. No harm no foul. As for checking with my post office, I didn’t send it via Priority or confirmation as they don’t work for international mail.
I also appreciate your patience in this matter. We both have decent records (and yes, your’s is better than mine) and I want to get the trade situated.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Nixlord [mailto:nix_hobbystop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:24 AM
To: mike jackson
Subject: Re: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Mike,
I read my email to you again and I feel I may have been too harsh.
I only wanted to assure you that I wasn't scamming you.
I was already annoyed when I was emailing to you, and most of that anger was actually directed to Iksander's remark in the reference forums, saying that anybody complaining against tabbas should be posted as scammers as well.
I was already a little pissed with Tabbas's disappearance and Iksander's reply made me see red.
Anyway, I appreciate that you are still replying and are willing to make this trade work. I'd rather be patient and see something materialize than be angry and see nothing in the end.
You said you were willing to send other minis, that's fine with me. But before we discuss that, have you already checked your post office? Can't you trace the package and determine where it is?
----- Original Message -----
From: mike jackson
To: 'Nixlord'
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Set From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Nix,
I never said you were lying. And I am kind of put off by that statement. I offered to try and make the trade right 2 weeks ago when you told me you hadn’t received yet and you told me you already considered it a bad trade. I would like to keep the minis you sent, and would be willing to pay fair market price or send some other minis to you. Let me know.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Nixlord [mailto:nix_hobbystop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:16 PM
To: mike jackson
Subject: Re: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Mike,
It's the end of the week and still no package.
If you think I'm lying, why should I do that now and why with only two miniatures?
What do you propose to do?
----- Original Message -----
From: mike jackson
To: 'Nixlord'
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:10 AM
Subject: RE: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Hi Nix,
I am sorry to hear you haven’t received yet. As you can tell from MM I have no negatives. I would like to keep it that way. Is there any thing I can do to make this a successful trade?
VR
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Nixlord [mailto:nix_hobbystop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:36 PM
To: mike jackson
Subject: Re: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Mike,
It's been two weeks now since your reply and I still haven't received.
That makes it more than a month and a week now that this trade hasn't been completed.
Did you wait for my end to arrive first before you mailed?
I do hope your end arrives by the end of this week. Otherwise, I will consider this a bad trade.
Granted, mail can be lost, but it has only happened once with Doctari (but he pulled through later on). Milawjax claims it happened to him twice. I can't see how considering I've already made over 60 overseas trades (most of them to the US), and most of them much much more bigger trades than the one I did with Milawjax. I then still continued to be patient. Maybe I thought he sent via surface mail. But January came by and still nothing.
I then emailed three times over January to Feb. But he never responded. I soon almost gave up. It was already a depressing time, because I also got scammed by Tabbas at the time as well.
But when I saw Milawjax come back in the forums, I emailed him again, inquiring about the money he was supposed to send. This was his quick reply:
quote:
I tell you what.....You report this as a problem trade....I will never trade with ANYONE from the phillipines ever again. This has been the most problematic trade I have ever had. I am a seller on E-Bay and have never had so much trouble. You do what you feel is necessary, and I will respond in kind. You e-mail me after my Postal order has been in the mail over a month and dare ask me if I will ever pull through? Friends and associates of mine said not to trade with some one from the Phillipines, and told them that I have been there, most people are cool. Here we are 3 months later and I have to be threatened by some one.........Look, I have a clean record, both here and E-bay.....I'm sorry, but at this point I'm out my Drider and spares plus 30+_ dollars. Im done........
Mike
And now he initiates this thread to somehow make you feel that he was the one wronged. This presents the dilemma then: who are you going to believe?
A guy from the US who has 10 completed trades, or the guy from the Philippines that has at least 61 international trades?
As anactive maxminis member and one who fought hard to clear the name of Philippine traders, why the hell would I do this? And since we were sending simultaneously, why bother sending at all if I was planning on scamming him? And why risk my reputation over just 2 figs?
And the money order he said he sent. Where are the details?
Another point I'd like to raise is that if I was the scammer, then how come I'M THE ONLY ONE INITIATING THE EMAIL/COMMUNICATION? Wouldn't it be normal for someone to check up on the other party, especially after he has already sent the said package, followed by a sum of money? I know I would. I'd double check every week If I can. That's big money. Weird thing is, he never did. NOT ONCE DID HE INITIATE AN EMAIL TO INQUIRE ABOUT HIS PACKAGE. ALL HIS EMAILS WERE RESPONSES. And if I scammed, wouldn't it be wiser to just drop this and never email the guy at all? What, I was milking him some more???
So if I didn't scam him, then the package and the money order got lost? Blame trading to the Philippines then. That's easy. Over 60 completed trades and Milawjax loses his package twice. His word over my references. I'll let you guys be the judge.
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 03/16/2005 12:15 PM |
| | Siding with Nixlord, I never had a problem with him, and I received my minis from him within 2 weeks. He got mine a month later (I think). I'll always trade with him over and over and I'd doubt he'd ever scam anyone. It seems to me that it isn't Nixlord doing the scamming, but that's beside the point.. The E-Mails confirm my thinking. | |
Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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bassman2972
Underboss
1675 Posts
The ville IN. AKA Hell on earth
| | 03/16/2005 6:47 PM |
| First of all, I seriously doubt Nix would scam anybody, Even though I personally have never traded with him, I know several who have. But I have traded in the Philippenes and haven't had any problems.
There's a simple solution to this delima.
*For the Money Order. To find out what happened to it, check the Tracer # All MOs have them. It's on the Stub you keep.
*As for the Original packege sent. If you used GPM, then you have a certificate of shippment postmarked. You could easily scan it and send it to Nix to show that the original was sent when you said it was. And even if you didn't ship GPM, your Postal reciept will have the destination and date shipped on it.
The dispute isn't what you sent. It's whether you sent at all. I'm not saying you didn't, but Nixs' reply is pretty convincing. | |
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/16/2005 6:54 PM |
| I've said my peace. I am finished with this. Those that have traded with me know Im good. I always get DC in the states and Canada. I have no Idea what GPM is. At this point I am cutting my losses. I still don't think Nix is scamming me. That never crossed my mind, but I don't have the money to keep sending money orders until he get one.
I don't hold any grudges against anyone who feels that I am scamming. I can see that 68 vs 10 doesn't look good in my favor.
I can't track the MO....It was sent over a month ago and I have no clue where the reciept is. I also know how that looks. Eventually it all points to me. So be it. I am a realist and can understand the facts. So I have decided to only trade with those in the US and canada. I can use DC there and make sure if something like this happens I have a route to cover my self.
I wish all a happy day and pleasant trading experiences. | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
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bassman2972
Underboss
1675 Posts
The ville IN. AKA Hell on earth
| | 03/16/2005 7:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by milawjax
I've said my peace. I am finished with this. Those that have traded with me know Im good. I always get DC in the states and Canada. I have no Idea what GPM is. At this point I am cutting my losses. I still don't think Nix is scamming me. That never crossed my mind, but I don't have the money to keep sending money orders until he get one.
I don't hold any grudges against anyone who feels that I am scamming. I can see that 68 vs 10 doesn't look good in my favor.
I can't track the MO....It was sent over a month ago and I have no clue where the reciept is. I also know how that looks. Eventually it all points to me. So be it. I am a realist and can understand the facts. So I have decided to only trade with those in the US and canada. I can use DC there and make sure if something like this happens I have a route to cover my self.
I wish all a happy day and pleasant trading experiences.
My apolagize. I had no intention of implying you being a scammer. I was simply trying to help By offering a solution to this issue.
"GPM" BTW is Global Priority Mail, Nix mentioned it in his reply.
It allows usually quicker and safer shippments internationally. | |
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/16/2005 7:17 PM |
| Bass- Nothing to apologize for. As I said I have good trades in the US and even one in Poland. I appreciate your advice, and will keep that in mind. But I have no intention of trading overseas again, as this will undoubtedly hurt my trade rep and feel as if I am doomed to be viewed with suspicion after this. I can understand Nix's point, but when I don't hear from him in a month and then BAM i get an email saying he is going to report me as a bad trader.....I admitted that I was wrong in my verbal attack on the phillipines. And I admit I should have looked into this GPM thing better. I also admit that I am a novice on this outside the US shipping.
So to summarize....Im sorry to the Phillipines,Bass-no harm, thanx for the advice, everyone else have a nice day.
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Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
My H/W list
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bugsy
Sergeant
557 Posts
United Kingdom
| | 03/16/2005 8:14 PM |
| | Being a good trader does not only involve sending and receiving packages. The most important thing is how you conduct yourself in this site and treat everybody with respect. It is not that I am accusing you of being a bad trader but I think you should be careful with that pride and temper of yours else you offend somebody else. We all try to build a good reputation and I think it is much more precious than $30 worth of plastic. Nixlord, you have my support. Bassman, thanks! and Milawjax, apology accepted. | |
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/17/2005 5:48 AM |
| Just a note...I sent Nix an email last night. I have an idea to solve the situation.
Nix, I used your Member address, as I dont have the emails you sent me.
Please let me know if you got the email.
Mike | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
My H/W list
http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=milawjax
Trade Ref's
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Nixlord
Underboss
2468 Posts
Quezon City, Philippines
| | 03/17/2005 9:44 AM |
| First of all, I'd like to thank Kaya, Bugsy, and especially to Bassman2972 (even though we haven't traded yet) for the support.
Milawjax, I'm sorry it has come to this. I further dug through my email to look for your very last one before your outburst. I remember you said something about sending a money order. It struck me that you didn't know about GPM. I found it after sorting my yahoo mail by date.
This was your last email, dated January 13:
quote:
Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:52 -0600
From: "Michael Jackson" Add to Address Book
To: "Nixlord"
Subject: Re: Sent From maxminis.com by Nixlord
Sorry Nix,
As you recall from a couple months back, I was having pc issues.....I
just bought a new one and got it set up yesterday. I agree with the
money order price and will send it ?Global Priority? this coming
Monday.
Thank you for all your patience in this.
Mike
Nixlord wrote:
> Mike,
> I sent you an email 3 days ago.
> You haven't replied.
> Kindly do so please.
> Sincerely,
> Nix
So you did send via GPM.
I emailed you thrice after that but you never replied. I was asking for the details of the money order you sent, remember? How to track it, etc? But I never heard from you again, until early this week. Your statement "but when I don't hear from him in a month and then BAM i get an email saying he is going to report me as a bad trader" is misleading. Why didn't you reply then? And now you tell me you've lost the details of the money order. Fine.
As for your offer to pay me through Paypal in your latest email, unfortunately, there's a problem. Paypal does not extend its membership to the Philippines, which is the reason why I never get to take advantage of Ebay.
But if you're willing to do so, why not send payment via Western Union? You could easily pay through credit card online. You only need to send me the details on how to track it. That was my original suggestion, right?
Again, I'm sorry it came to this. I was ready to accept the loss and simply mark this down as a bad trade. But when you start a thread like this, I have no choice but to fight back and clear my name.
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/17/2005 4:44 PM |
| Nix...
I don't want a fight. Your name is not the one in danger as you put it 68 vs 10. Western union is fine. I get paid friday afternoon. Lets plan for monday.
The GPM that I used is not what our fellow minis traders have said. I went to a larger post office today and asked some questions. I found that my lack of knowledge on GPM is staggering.
I apologize for going of the handle. In my own little world I felt that you were being "overly aggressive" since about our 4th email when you thought I thought you were trying to scam me. I hope you understood that sentence. Hopefully you remember the email I am refering to.
I honestly haven't recieved any emails from you. I assumed everything was fine between us. Your email caught me off guard, and I am man enough to admit I lost my cool and was wrong. I've apologized to everyone and want to make tthe trade right.
I am asking you to send me your mailing address (I believe I need it for Western Union). Email me at MIJACKSON20@comcast.net.
Thank you
Mike | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
My H/W list
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Nixlord
Underboss
2468 Posts
Quezon City, Philippines
| | 03/17/2005 5:56 PM |
| Mike,
I emailed you my reply but I want to post here as well so that it could be put on record.
Thanks, I greatly appreciate the apology.
However, I'd also like to apologize for "being aggressive" in my replies. I guess we both just lost our cool.
I am also telling you now, that I swear on my life, I did not receive anything from you. I hope you can find a way to track down the package and money that you sent before. As you are an active Ebay seller/buyer, could it have been mailed in error somewhere else? In any case, I am truly sorry for your loss.
I emailed you my complete address.
Kindly send me the details so I can track it from here.
Again, thank you for resolving this.
Sincerely,
Nix
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milawjax
Warrior
209 Posts
| | 03/17/2005 8:25 PM |
| All,
Nix is a bigger man than I am. I want to publicly apologize for loosing my cool. I should be more mature than that.
Nix and I are on are way to finishing this trade. | |
Lawful Good Dwarven Paladin
Str 14, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 18. I wonder if that's before or after racial modifiers.....
My H/W list
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