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07/23/2005 5:43 PM  
Well my friends after about 40+ trades I’ve finally been ripped off.
And this it was my first trade through MAXMINIS.
I guess it was eventually going to happen

He goes by JESTERGYPSY. I’ve also heard he has other alias' with JESTER in it.

He' goes by Dan Mumma, and his e-mail address is [jestergypsy@yahoo.com]
His mailing address is

208 East ST
Lynn Center, IL
61262

I have not received my mini in over a month now, and I get no return contact from my e-mails or messages.

I understand how easy it is to fake an name and sign up for a yahoo or hotmail e-mail address so, I will no longer be trading with anyone in Illinois, until I get my figure back or we figure out who this is.

I apologize to all those that do live in Illinois who are good trades.

My next step is to find a phone number for this address, and call there.

If anyone has any info on where this guy is, it would be much appreciated

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07/27/2005 11:18 AM  
This trader has corrected the situation.

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07/30/2005 3:15 AM  
I'm adding my dispute from January-March with CG:

Kaya sends:

Troll
Vandania
clay golem
Orc Champ

Cg sends:

Ice troll x2
WF Hero
Frenzied Berserker

Never got my end, and I was iffy on putting this up because of the dealings I had in the past with him (4 other trades).. Sad how he hated people ripping off his son, then he does it himself to a bunch of people here.

Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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08/02/2005 9:42 PM  
This could be resolved soon and if so, I will edit this post so the information is not here anymore.

EDIT: This trade has been resolved.

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08/03/2005 11:55 AM  
As an aside, I emailed Tysac two weeks ago about being included in the fraud lawsuit that he is arranging against CG.

He hasn't responded to my email.

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08/08/2005 11:43 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar

As an aside, I emailed Tysac two weeks ago about being included in the fraud lawsuit that he is arranging against CG.

He hasn't responded to my email.



Maybe CG has bumped him off?

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08/08/2005 3:31 PM  
Tysac and I were involved in a rather large trade about six weeks ago. He claimed to have sent his portion, which never arrived. I sent him an email just over a week ago that he has not responded to. I was hoping not to see any other problems with him when I came to this thread- ah, well....

UPDATE: Tysac pulled through- he contacted me a couple days after I posted this and Friday I received his package. He gave what I consider a good reason for the delay, so I still consider him a good trader.

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08/08/2005 3:34 PM  
I'm slightly worried about Gloom_, he said his trade was sent last Thursday... May have sent it 2nd class, I dunno... and still haven't had it. If nothin arrives by Thursday, then I'll be in serious contact (replace 'in serious contact' with 'Spamming' [:o)])

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08/09/2005 4:53 AM  
Gloom_ 's minis arrived this morning

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08/17/2005 4:43 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Pan

please add Bloody (David Graña) to the list. i have his name posted in my signature, but i'd like to have his theft receive a little more coverage.



Matthew (Pan):

I do not know why you're calling me a thief. It is true that our trade (my last trade since real life got me out of maxminis board) meet some problems on my side (ie: I sent later than expected due to a non-expected bussines trip, as I recall telling you) but I did send the minis to you. This is the last thing I know about our trade. It is true that I've not contacted you after that to see if you received them but it is also true that I never received any mail from you telling me you did not (and, as I said, until yesterday I've been out of maxminis boards).
I'm a bit lost here why my minis seem to have never arrived your home but the thing is that I'm now a bad trader thanks to it and, what is worse, I don't have anymore the shipping document that probe that I'm not a thief as I sent the minis (I usually keep these things for no more than 6 months as they expire after that) and also obtain any kind of compensation or confirmation from the postal company....
So, as I really want my name to be deleted from the bad trader list (I honestly think that I do not deserve to be on that list even when I send the minis later than expected), I will send you again the minis I send you (Drider Sorcerer, Wraith, Elf Pyromancer, Stone Golem and Frost Giant) as I have duplicates of all these while I do not have access to the minis that you sent me (two of them get traded a while ago). This is all that I can do now as soon as I came back from holidays (start of next week -August 23rd). Please, do report here when you receive them.

David (Bloody).

PS: Reply sent also by email.

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08/18/2005 11:55 AM  
Bloody,
I'm happy to remove your name, just have Pan post here that things are in the process of being resolved.

Also, this list above is just a list of trades in dispute. Unless you have multiple trades in dispute I don't think you need to worry about being labeled a bad trader.

Cheers,
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08/23/2005 11:13 AM  
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Well, after 140+ trades it was bound to happen[:(]. I really hate to post this, but under the circumstances I feel I must. litorian and myself had initiated a trade back on Aug 2. One argeement on this trade was that it had to be complete before the last week of this month, due to me going in the hospital for surgury, which gave him 3 weeks to send. I normally would give him more time before posting this, but with the lack of e-mail communication I feel I must. The last e-mail I recieved from him was on the Sunday the 14th. which stated that he would ship the next day due to not having the minis to fill our trade so he had to buy more boosters. Personally, I feel the trade should have never been made if he didn't have the minis, which I didn't know at the time.
I'm still keeping hope that he will come through with the trade, but until he does, I can't in good conscience recommend anyone to trade with him.
It truely is a sad, sad day.[:(]

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08/23/2005 11:34 AM  
I must add my name to those filing complaints against Litorian. The package I sent to him arrived several weeks ago, and though I have emailed him multiple times since then, I've heard nothing in response.

Sadly,

Lance H

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08/23/2005 11:44 AM  
Bassman and Lance H,
Done. Thanks for keeping us informed. It is sad to see respected members not come through on trades. Hope that it gets sorted out soon.

LM

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08/24/2005 12:47 AM  
Back in the first generation forum. I also have a bad trade with TechNoMercy.

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08/24/2005 3:22 AM  
I have an unresolved trade with Kaya Kenobi.

We agreed to a same day post on 4 August. I sent mine (LCD, Mounted Paladin, Ogre Mage, Hezrou, Barbed Devil, Blackscale Lizard and a magmin) but no joy from Kaya.

When we exchanged emails the following week he said he had forgotten to send his end. I guess it can happen. He said he'd post them first chance he got, but just dropped out of sight. He hasn't been online the last 10 days, so I'm not getting a response to my emails.

I believe he isn't enjoying the best of health, so I'm not going to call foul, but thought it best to have this on record.

If anyone has any info they can share with me as to Kaya's situation I would appreciate it.

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08/25/2005 3:21 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Bassman and Lance H,
Done. Thanks for keeping us informed. It is sad to see respected members not come through on trades. Hope that it gets sorted out soon.

LM



I do too. I'm keeping hope that there's some unforseen event that has stopped him from sending, but if I hear no word from him soon or no package in the mail from him, I will be having my friend file a report for me with the USPIS.
He's the Local PM, so I'm hoping he can push it with the investigation and help with filing the federal mail fraud charges.
Sometimes it pays to game with him. LOL[)]

But in all seriousness, I truely do hope he comes through with all his outstanding trades.

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08/25/2005 5:09 PM  
Update on the Litorian affair:

Today I received my minis from Litorian!

Yes, the delivery was very late, and no, he never replied to my emails, but at long last he has made good on our trade. Let the record show that I do not consider him a bad trader, just a slow and unresponsive one. [:)]

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08/25/2005 6:57 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Lance H

Update on the Litorian affair:

Today I received my minis from Litorian!

Yes, the delivery was very late, and no, he never replied to my emails, but at long last he has made good on our trade. Let the record show that I do not consider him a bad trader, just a slow and unresponsive one. [:)]


Please remove my name as well. I recieved today too.
I'm glad to see that he has come through with our trade. Better late than never.[)][:)]

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08/25/2005 10:55 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by bassman2972

quote:
Originally posted by Lance H

Update on the Litorian affair:

Today I received my minis from Litorian!

Yes, the delivery was very late, and no, he never replied to my emails, but at long last he has made good on our trade. Let the record show that I do not consider him a bad trader, just a slow and unresponsive one. [:)]


Please remove my name as well. I recieved today too.
I'm glad to see that he has come through with our trade. Better late than never.[)][:)]



Awesome. Litorians name is gone.

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08/26/2005 1:08 AM  
Just browsing the references topics, especially those with problems...

Great job LabMonkey keeping on top of things, both in this thread and the myriad other trading threads!


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08/26/2005 1:18 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by kestrel.ca

Just browsing the references topics, especially those with problems...

Great job LabMonkey keeping on top of things, both in this thread and the myriad other trading threads!



Thanks kestral.ca! It hasn't been too tough to maintain since I first put this together (with plenty of help from Phoenix and bassman). Glad to know that people use it.

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08/26/2005 7:05 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
Glad to know that people use it.



Oh yeah!! You are the man for staying on top of things. And boy howdy do I use this thread. An ounce of prevention is worth something or other...[:D]

Thanks for the hard work, it is greatly appreciated by many....

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08/29/2005 11:43 AM  
More good news, I recieved the replacement shipment that Alakhai agreed to send since the first one went missing. Hopefully Schooly_D recieves his soon too so we can remove another name from the list.

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08/29/2005 3:44 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Bloody

quote:
Originally posted by Pan

please add Bloody (David Graña) to the list. i have his name posted in my signature, but i'd like to have his theft receive a little more coverage.



Matthew (Pan):

I do not know why you're calling me a thief. It is true that our trade (my last trade since real life got me out of maxminis board) meet some problems on my side (ie: I sent later than expected due to a non-expected bussines trip, as I recall telling you) but I did send the minis to you. This is the last thing I know about our trade. It is true that I've not contacted you after that to see if you received them but it is also true that I never received any mail from you telling me you did not (and, as I said, until yesterday I've been out of maxminis boards).
I'm a bit lost here why my minis seem to have never arrived your home but the thing is that I'm now a bad trader thanks to it and, what is worse, I don't have anymore the shipping document that probe that I'm not a thief as I sent the minis (I usually keep these things for no more than 6 months as they expire after that) and also obtain any kind of compensation or confirmation from the postal company....
So, as I really want my name to be deleted from the bad trader list (I honestly think that I do not deserve to be on that list even when I send the minis later than expected), I will send you again the minis I send you (Drider Sorcerer, Wraith, Elf Pyromancer, Stone Golem and Frost Giant) as I have duplicates of all these while I do not have access to the minis that you sent me (two of them get traded a while ago). This is all that I can do now as soon as I came back from holidays (start of next week -August 23rd). Please, do report here when you receive them.

David (Bloody).

PS: Reply sent also by email.



I never received any minis from you. You claim that you sent them, and I'dlike to believe that, as I've had the postal service lose packages for me as well. You also mention that I never sent you any emails stating that they were missing, which is not the case. I sent many emails, both before and after you agreed to send the package.

I don't know if you sent the package. I don't know if you received any emails. I DO know that I didn't receive any minis or emails. I DO know that i sent my minis to you a full month before you even claimed to have sent back to me (i'm referencing your sudden business trip). Hence, I see no reason to have your name removed from the "Bad Traders" list until this situation is rectified. By current standards, the minis i sent you represent over $100 of investment, and i have nothing to show for it except this message that has apparently been 6 months in the making.

i'm sending this to your email address as well, and we can work things out privately.

so sad that they shelled my old sig...

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08/30/2005 4:16 AM  
Alright...some news on the C/G case...

I will find out by next monday if I can place a federal mail fraud charge to CG. There might be complications because i currently have a Canadian address, so there might be some 'mis-haps' for me to fit under the american law.

I am currently in Detroit Michigan, and will be returning home soon to collect whatever info I can for you all.

Thanks for the patience, and sorry about the temp leave of absence.

Tysac

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08/31/2005 3:46 PM  
My trade issues with Kaya Kenobi have been resolved, please remove him from the disputed list. Thank you.

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09/02/2005 12:39 PM  
Removed the following names today:

Eric Robertsson
JBlevo04
Fox78

All three were reported only by Cha0tic G0od making the claims of scamming highly suspect. Also, I can't find any record of any of these guys as being actual members of Maxminis.

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09/04/2005 6:26 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Removed the following names today:

Eric Robertsson
JBlevo04
Fox78

All three were reported only by Cha0tic G0od making the claims of scamming highly suspect. Also, I can't find any record of any of these guys as being actual members of Maxminis.



I'm not starting anything, but it just seems that CG might have been 1 can short of a 6-pack......

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09/04/2005 1:36 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Mixmaster

quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Removed the following names today:

Eric Robertsson
JBlevo04
Fox78

All three were reported only by Cha0tic G0od making the claims of scamming highly suspect. Also, I can't find any record of any of these guys as being actual members of Maxminis.



I'm not starting anything, but it just seems that CG might have been 1 can short of a 6-pack......



I think that is a pretty safe assumption. I sort of felt that way from the begining with the Kong stuff but it didn't stop me from making 3 trades with him I feel very lucky that I got all of my trades from him.

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09/05/2005 3:39 AM  
just letting people know that the disputed trade between myself (me_is_fred) and thatoneguy has been resolved

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09/06/2005 1:08 PM  
I am happy to say that I actually received my minis from Lance today in the mail !!! It wasn't the agreed upon trade, but was an equivalent substitute to me. I am just glad that he has resolved this with me and I hope it works out for all the rest of you.

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09/06/2005 4:41 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by me_is_fred

just letting people know that the disputed trade between myself (me_is_fred) and thatoneguy has been resolved


I removed your name from the list above. It would be helpful if Thatoneguy would post here as well to acknowledge that the trade has been resolved successfully.

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09/10/2005 10:05 AM  
Here is a heads up about CG.

He has been banned from Hordelings, might I suggest the same here??

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09/10/2005 10:22 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul

Here is a heads up about CG.

He has been banned from Hordelings, might I suggest the same here??

Already done. His title was changed from "Man of Mass Minis" to "Bad Trader", his post count was reduced from over 5000 to 0 and his account was permanently disabled/locked. That should about do it.

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09/10/2005 3:52 PM  
Perfect. I just wish that I had gotten his part of the deal. Races of Faerûn is something I really need for my collection.

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09/10/2005 4:01 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul

Perfect. I just wish that I had gotten his part of the deal. Races of Faerûn is something I really need for my collection.

I think a lot of us are very disappointed and angry with Cha0tic G0od. He ripped off more than many of the worst scammers combined.

As for RoF, check out Amazon. They have some discount sellers offering Races of Faerun for 4.99.

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09/11/2005 6:06 AM  
Thanx. I'll do that when I start gettin loot in my bank account.

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09/15/2005 10:36 PM  
I have reported a bad trader on Problem Trades or Traders. Was that good or should I also report here? Thanks.

Edit: Van Hoo III is now considered in my opinion a bad trader. Has received my minis 2 months ago. No reply to all my e-mails. No reply in those forums. Thanks.


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New York, USA

09/19/2005 4:51 PM  
I have had a pending trade with Satsujin Kingyo since August 2nd. He offered to send his minis first, but as to date I have yet to receive them. I have attempted to email him multiple times (4 or so) asking him what the status of our trade was with no reply. I also posted a request on the general forum for him to reply to me ragarding our trade status. To date still no response in the that forum. I also posted in his reference thread in an attempt to reach him, but nothing there as well. Although I haven't lost any minis considering he was sending first I think it is important to note that this trade has gone without completion or resolution as of this date. I will post any follow-up to the situation as it happens.

Thanks, John P (arbados)

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