Oryan77
Sergeant
957 Posts
    
 | | 04/28/2006 7:30 PM |
| I left my first negative feedback in the trade interface today and noticed that there is really nothing to alert people that a trader has any negative trades. It's just filed as a completed trade and you have to actually click the trade to read the feedback...no one is going to do that.
I just thought I should point this out. It doesn't do much good to keep track of feedback if no one is ever aware of bad traders.
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1684 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 11:17 PM |
| Out of curiosity, I checked your trades to see who it was you left negative feedback for. I couldn't find it so am assuming it is your one remaining Open trade.
So, not only does nothing alert anybody that there are negative trades, but someone can avoid even those being seen by never leaving feedback at all. (As others can't see your trades in progress.) | |
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Oryan77
Sergeant
957 Posts
| | 05/01/2006 1:15 PM |
| Actually, the person I left negative feedback for left me positive feedback in the same trade. It's also filed away as completed and isn't the one trade I still have open. Most likely you saw his "positive" and just didn't notice my side was marked "negative".
You actually WENT looking for the trade marked negative and still didn't notice it. That should prove that we need to get a better feedback alert system going in the trade interface. Maybe something like Ebay has like a scoreboard showing a total score of "Positive, Neutral, Negative"?
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Lead Moderator
LCS
Underboss
1899 Posts
| | 05/01/2006 4:10 PM |
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Which transaction was it, exactly? I don't have the time to click on every single one of your transactions, and I didn't notice a negative in the few recent ones I did check.
The page you see when you look at your own trades is different from what everyone else sees. It's possible that the trade isn't being listed on your list of completed trades that is available to other people.
Without knowing who the other trader is, there isn't any way we can check that it IS showing up on the other trader's list.
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Lead Moderator
LCS
Underboss
1899 Posts
| | 05/01/2006 4:13 PM |
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Also, Jai mentioned at some point that one of his plans for the trade interface was to add some sort of tally or visual indication of the trade feedback on the trade interface trade.
He's got a lot of stuff on his to-do list, including many non-maxminis things like unpacking from his move, so it might be a while.
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madda
Sergeant
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Oryan77
Sergeant
957 Posts
| | 05/02/2006 9:47 PM |
| Yeah it's the 2/10/06 trade with jeremiahcarissa and I feel crummy leaving it but he's given me the run-around for 4 months now.
Funny thing is, I got my first Ebay negative feedback lastnight. The guy sent me an item different from the picture he listed, he called me greedy when I politely asked him about it, I had to file a dispute with paypal & he gave me a partial refund, I left him positive feedback for doing the right thing with the refund, and the putz left me a negative in return & lied in his feedback. He was mad he had to give me the refund and took advantage of my appreciation & good intentions after I left him feedback first.
I guess that's karma for leaving jeremiahcarissa a negative here. I try my hardest to be fair in my dealings and this is the 4th time this year that I have had someone online screw me over in a deal. I hate not being able to do anything about this.
Sorry for the rant, I know this isn't the place for it.
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
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qillan_dvra
Underboss
1588 Posts
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| | 05/04/2006 11:46 PM |
| It would be much better if there was some way of indicating hegative feedback has been given in a trade.
Perhaps by highlight the "Trade Comlete" in red of by inserting an " *" beside it.
That would make it easy to see the bad jujus. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 05/05/2006 5:18 PM |
| I also kinda wish there were different categories for rating. It would be nice to have a positive and negative for speed of trade, courtesy of trade, etc.
But, if we did that, it would also be nice to have a rating other than a simple binary rating. A 1-to-5 scale for several different categories might be nice. Then the top traders would have, for example, a cumulative rating higher than 4.0 or something.
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/07/2006 4:45 AM |
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Originally posted by nycfarmkid
make sure you add a comment to the negative feedback. That way when people look they can see your explanation of what happened.
I have never been able to figure out how to read any of the comments in another person's trades--open or complete. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/09/2006 9:20 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Corim Danex
quote:
Originally posted by nycfarmkid
make sure you add a comment to the negative feedback. That way when people look they can see your explanation of what happened.
I have never been able to figure out how to read any of the comments in another person's trades--open or complete.
I think he meant for ebay comments. | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 05/10/2006 10:23 AM |
| And that is the short coming of ebay. You can leave positive feedback and then the other person can leave negative feedback as a relaiation. The system does not work well at all. I had it happen twice that the seller did not leave feedback until after I had left feedback, and that is complete BS. You got the money in a timely fashion then why the negative feedback... because I questioned you???
I think we need something different from ebays solution which is all about control and retaliation. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 05/10/2006 12:18 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by striderlotr
I think we need something different from ebays solution which is all about control and retaliation.
Agreed. Our environment here is much less dedicated to trade between anonymous individuals and much more dedicated to trade between those who obtain mutual trust in trading relationships over time.
Being able to witness and depend upon that trust is the whole point of having reference threads and feedback to begin with.
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Ghendar
Warlord
12441 Posts
The G Spot
| | 05/10/2006 12:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by striderlotr
I think we need something different from ebays solution which is all about control and retaliation.
I totally agree.
The possibility of retaliatory negative feedback is too great. We need a better system. | |
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